Huge parental rights win.

[HisArpy]

Still avoiding the questions?

You’re an intellectual midget.

See post #295. If you're capable of pulling your head out of your ass that is. Which is HIGHLY DOUBTFUL but you should at least TRY.

 

[AlexBailey]

"Personality" has NOTHING to do with the way someone dresses or acts.

Holy fuck!

Quoted for posterity!

The new carbon water!

 

[Lance_Castro]

Alex is a self-described crossdressing gender fluid kinky man who thinks gender confused minors shouldn’t be protected by their parents from people like him/her/they/whatever.

And we’re up to 12 pages putting up with this deev?

Why?

 

[glamorilla]

Since you know, what was the date that gay people were officially accepted?

the early 90's.

 

[HisArpy]

Holy fuck!

Quoted for posterity!

The new carbon water!

Show me how someone wearing a belt, versus no belt, indicates some kind of gender expression personality.

Go on, I'll wait.

 

[AlexBailey]

See post #295. If you're capable of pulling your head out of your ass that is. Which is HIGHLY DOUBTFUL but you should at least TRY.

Sorry, I missed your word salad response the first time around.

Clothing evolved to encompass certain things other than providing bodily protection and warmth as well as social modesty. Men's shirts, for example, button opposite those of women because when buttons became de rigeur handmaids dressed their patron mistresses. Given that most people are right handed that required buttons be placed opposite where they would be than if someone dressed themselves.

Everything you said in that part about clothes points to how style is a social construct.

Thanks for proving my points yet again.

 

[HisArpy]

OTOH, I can switch from being a goofball to intensely serious without needing to change my clothes.

Because, despite conventional thinking, the clothes don't make the man, the man makes the clothes.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

the early 90's.

Wow, so even though they couldn’t marry who they wanted, and had zero protections from discrimination they were accepted in “the early 90’s”. I don’t think you’re the expert you claim to be.

 

[AlexBailey]

Show me how someone wearing a belt, versus no belt, indicates personality.

Go on, I'll wait.

That’s among the most stupid arguments you’ve tried to make. How does a ‘belt’ apply to gender expression?

 

[AlexBailey]

Show me how someone wearing a belt, versus no belt, indicates some kind of gender expression personality.

Go on, I'll wait.

You’ve defined that there are hundreds of millions of trans people in the world yet you deny that any are children.

Open the garage when you rev your engine.

 

[glamorilla]

Wow, so even though they couldn’t marry who they wanted, and had zero protections from discrimination they were accepted in “the early 90’s”. I don’t think you’re the expert you claim to be.

you're right.

please tell me how I should be.

for my betterment.

 

[HisArpy]

You’ve defined that there are hundreds of millions of trans people in the world yet you deny that any are children.

Open the garage when you rev your engine.

WTF? Are you REALLY that confused?

 

[HisArpy]

you're right.

please tell me how I should be.

for my betterment.

I wonder what he'd say if you'd mentioned how many "came out of the closet" in the late 60's and 70's and no one (except a few radicals) really cared.

 

[HisArpy]

That’s among the most stupid arguments you’ve tried to make. How does a ‘belt’ apply to gender expression?

Lol.

It's as relevant as a dress is.

Or don't you know that women wear belts too?

Here's another one for you; did you know that men used to wear pantyhose when extreme camping or climbing? Yet they weren't "expressing themselves as women" when they did it. They wore them because it created an insulating layer of warm air next to the skin.

Basically, you're so limited in your thinking, because your worldview is so minuscule, that you have no fucking clue what's really going on around you. All you really know is how to flog your tiny weenie in public and think you're wonderful for it.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

you're right.

please tell me how I should be.

for my betterment.

Maybe you should start being more accepting of people.

 

[AlexBailey]

Lol.

It's as relevant as a dress is.

Or don't you know that women wear belts too?

So what’s the logic of your “belt” argument in your last few posts?

 

[glamorilla]

I wonder what he'd say if you'd mentioned how many "came out of the closet" in the late 60's and 70's and no one (except a few radicals) really cared.

The 80's were rough. Pretty much all the bad stuff that happened to me happened back then. It started to turn around in the early 90's. Being gay was empowering.

Now its embarrassing.

 

[AlexBailey]

Alex is a self-described crossdressing gender fluid kinky man who thinks gender confused minors shouldn’t be protected by their parents from people like him/her/they/whatever.

And we’re up to 12 pages putting up with this deev?

Why?

I think gender conflicted minors should be treated with respect. Studies show that the mental health of trans kids is closely related to whether their identity is honored by their peers and parents.

The main reason gender diverse people have mental health problems is because they have to deal with social derision, not because of their personality or presentation.

The first trans person I knew who killed himself did it because of being harassed. He didn’t choose to be trans. He knew it was his truth every bit as strongly as some people claim to believe in a creator.

 

[HisArpy]

So what’s the logic of your “belt” argument in your last few posts?

Listen fool, YOU'RE THE ONE who thinks that wearing specific clothing makes you something you're not.

Yet you can't even defend your position on it so you immediately go full asshole and bluster like no one's business.

Clothing doesn't change who you are. Not physically by turning a man into a woman, or socially by making a man in a dress be female.

Nor does wearing clothes do anything for your personality because personality isn't because of the clothes you wear. The clothes may be PART OF your personality, ex; EMO, but they don't create it. Like everything else you do, you get it all ass backward and think you're an expert for it.

You're a fool. Worse, you're a bigoted fool with a loud mouth and ignorance as your byword.

 

[glamorilla]

I think gender conflicted minors should be treated with respect. Studies show that the mental health of trans kids is closely related to whether their identity is honored by their peers and parents.

The main reason gender diverse people have mental health problems is because they have to deal with social derision, not because of their personality or presentation.

The first trans person I knew who killed himself did it because of being harassed. He didn’t choose to be trans. He knew it was his truth every bit as strongly as some people claim to believe in a creator.

I have an issue with the mental health of the people determining what kids are trans and influencing what children and teenagers should be learning in school.

 

[HisArpy]

The 80's were rough. Pretty much all the bad stuff that happened to me happened back then. It started to turn around in the early 90's. Being gay was empowering.

Now its embarrassing.

It's sad that some people have made a life out of being stupid. And, like stupid people everywhere, when their lifestyle is challenged they get violent.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I wonder what he'd say if you'd mentioned how many "came out of the closet" in the late 60's and 70's and no one (except a few radicals) really cared.

Yup, no gay guys were killed in the 60’s or 70’s, just because they were gay.
You’re really hell bent on proving your ignorance.

 

[glamorilla]

It's sad that some people have made a life out of being stupid. And, like stupid people everywhere, when their lifestyle is challenged they get violent.

it's was a nice feeling walking down the street feeling safe.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I have an issue with the mental health of the people determining what kids are trans and influencing what children and teenagers should be learning in school.

People don’t determine who is or isn’t trans, the individual person determines that. The people in a state determine what is taught in schools through the democratic process.
I don’t think you’re the expert you claim to be.

 

[HisArpy]

it's was a nice feeling walking down the street feeling safe.

I'm a man. I'm fairly large (6'6") and big (285 lbs) but even I don't always feel safe walking down the street.

Because shit happens no matter who you are.