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Just want to get your take on it if true. Thanks
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In some opinion polls, yes. But Reform have a long way to go to build credibility and develop policies whilst we endure 4 more years of Starmer destroying our country.Just want to get your take on it if true. Thanks
Wasn't Reform the Brexit party? How can they get any votes at all now? It's obvious to everyone Brexit was a disaster.
The big think about Brexit was, a lot of the Brexit vote was anti-illegal immigration. Brexit did NOT fix that, which was inlarge part, along with the crazy Cobservarive budgets, why voters walked away from the Conservatices. It wasn't a swing t Labor so much as a fuck you to the Conservatives.Wasn't Reform the Brexit party? How can they get any votes at all now? It's obvious to everyone Brexit was a disaster.
The UK's membership in the EU only facilitated immigration from European countries. It is the UK's imperial past that facilitates immigration from Third World countries, many of which are former British colonies and therefore Commonwealth members.The big think about Brexit was, a lot of the Brexit vote was anti-illegal immigration. Brexit did NOT fix that, which was inlarge part, along with the crazy Cobservarive budgets, why voters walked away from the Conservatices. It wasn't a swing t Labor so much as a fuck you to the Conservatives.
That vote has now moved to Reform. They will not have to deliver on sending millions of third world scum back to their homes.
All the progress recently is definitely receding.The big think about Brexit was, a lot of the Brexit vote was anti-illegal immigration. Brexit did NOT fix that, which was inlarge part, along with the crazy Cobservarive budgets, why voters walked away from the Conservatices. It wasn't a swing t Labor so much as a fuck you to the Conservatives.
That vote has now moved to Reform. They will not have to deliver on sending millions of third world scum back to their homes.
I thought Brexit would be the example that other nations follow to end the EU
How much of their growing popularity is tied to immigration?In some opinion polls, yes. But Reform have a long way to go to build credibility and develop policies whilst we endure 4 more years of Starmer destroying our country.
What does that have to do with leaving or remaining in the EU?I thought Brexit would be the example that other nations follow to end the EU, but then they destroyed their own birthrates. Descendants of immigrants will eventually rule most of Europe, maybe within our lifetimes.
I’d worry more about the will than the time.Yeah, the Brexit morons had to change the name of their movement to Reform because even the BritMAGAs realize Brexit was extra stupid.
But as we’ve seen in the US, blithering idiots can get elected.
Fortunately there won’t be an election in the UK anytime soon. The Labour government has time to unwind the damage done by Brexit and 14 years of Tory incompetence and corruption.
Just want to get your take on it if true. Thanks
The thing is, that was what happened - voters gave the Conservatives an overwhelming mandate to go ahead wth Brexit AND deal with illegal immigration.The UK's membership in the EU only facilitated immigration from European countries. It is the UK's imperial past that facilitates immigration from Third World countries, many of which are former British colonies and therefore Commonwealth members.
Does anyone want Britain to exit the Commonwealth?
Don't forget Murray, he's been raising that flag for years and now thinks it's gone past the point to no return.The thing is, that was what happened - voters gave the Conservatives an overwhelming mandate to go ahead wth Brexit AND deal with illegal immigration.
The Conservatives reneged on their voters, betrayed them, and opened the illegal immigration floodgates even wider.
The bulk of the Conservative and a lot of the Labour vote has now moved to Reform.
If Reform do not deliver, the vote will move to an even more extreme party, or Reform will turn more extremist and Farage, who is at heart a Conservative moderate, will be dropped. AT that point voters will not care whatever else is done as long as all the illegal and foreign immigrants (esp the Paki's - and they won't care whether the Paki's are legal or illegal) will be the subject of mass deportations. At that point, the legalities will NOT matter in the slightest. They will go, voluntarily or involuntarily. It may get voioent and it may get bloody - and calling people fascists and nazis will simply result in the people thinking the nazis and fascists mut have been the good guys - we are seeing that already with some of these stupid labels used by the left.
For our part, we are very lucky that we have Trump, who is dealing with this issue before it leads to the rise of REAL extremism. Personally, I don't think the UK will be so lucky. There are far too many foreigners there and the reaction is going to prove Enoch Powell was right all along - and a lot of good peoplewill be caught in the mess that's going to eventuate. One only hopes the perpatrators are strung up along the way. I think at this point it's too far gone and Farage is too moderate to adequately correct.
Moth balls and cabbage?I just want to take in her scent.
Remember when you flew dolf in and tried to bang her but you couldn't get it up? LolDon't forget Murray, he's been raising that flag for years and now thinks it's gone past the point to no return.
Not really, she lives there and I trust her take on events in her country. The last I heard, she is a married woman.I just want to take in her scent.
Thanks, I appreciate the input. Now, fill us in on the stories we see here from time to time about Britain being on the verge of revolution over immigration.Better late than never! Here's my entirely subjective tuppence worth.
This was the results of the 2024 general election. So, no, nowhere near a majority. Barely a blip in fact. Labour might get a few bruises in local elections, but they'll retain power until the next general election.
However, Reform are doing better in the polls since the election. Mostly because people elected a left wing party, but what they've received is just as right wing as the tories. There have been no meaningful changes made, but the PM did insist in an interview that every disabled person should be in work.
Whether you're a lefty or a righty, nobody is happy. What we had wasn't working, and they're just giving more of the same. And that leaves people looking at the wildcard, because at this point any change is preferable to continuity.
That said, people who like Reform tend to come from the demographic least likely to vote. My personal opinion is that the future of Reform is closely tied to the fate of America. Farage parrots a lot of Trump policies; if America prospers then people will be more tempted to vote Reform. But if America has an economic crisis or collapses into civil unrest, people will be put off.
Personally, I think Farage is a twat. He has an appalling attendance record, and seems to prefer giving soundbites to actually doing the work of representing his constituency. He's workshy, and politicians get paid whether they turn up or not.
Thanks, I appreciate the input. Now, fill us in on the stories we see here from time to time about Britain being on the verge of revolution over immigration.
I doubt they're on the verge of revolution. Between WW1 and WW2, and all the Brits with any get up and go having got up and went - to the US, Canada, Oz or NZ, the revolutionary genes have dissipated.
This is the direct result of unrestricted immigration without assimilation.Britons take to streets at dozens of sites across UK as anger over crisis reaches fever pitch
Anti-immigration activists and counter-protesting groups have taken to the streets of Britain as anger over migrant issues reaches a fever pitch in the UK. Protests are taking place in 14 locations nationwide this weekend in hotspots where refugees are housed. London, Essex, Birmingham, Leeds and Norwich have all seen large demonstrations.
The Metropolitan Police face particular pressure ahead of Saturday's anticipated pro-Palestine gathering in central London. In the last month, Britain has seen a series of protests, with members of the public concerned about the safety implications of housing asylum seekers in their local communities. Organised demonstrations usually have several hundred people at a time, but sometimes thousands.
https://www.gbnews.com/news/migrant-protests-news-latest-britain-asylum-seeker-hotel-police
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...n-applications-amid-anti-immigration-protests
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk...overnment-sets-out-asylum-reforms-2025-08-24/
https://www.itv.com/news/2025-08-23/clashes-as-asylum-protests-erupt-across-the-uk