New Trade Deal With The UK

[Meekly_Anna]

???

Raw chicken might have bacteria on it, but 140 degrees (which would still result in undercooked chicken) is sufficient to kill most food borne contaminants.

I get that the UK doesn't want US produced food products because it hurts domestic producers. Why not just say that's the reason? Or that you prefer farm-to-table? There's nothing wrong with that although I'm sure that there are just as many who would accept US food products based on price and known safety record for consumers in the US.

It's like the narrative against Tesla cars. In order to be imported, sold, and driven on UK roads the car has to conform to UK safety standards and requirements. Saying you don't want them because they don't conform is silly because it can't be that way. It's clear that the whole thing is a political narrative attempting to find a basis to hang it on.

Why go there at all when it's so obviously transparent? Especially when the US exports meat products to other countries with no consumer issues. It's the same with cars.


Now let's talk about something that really is different over there in the old world - milk chocolate. You guys use that powdered milk stuff and your chocolate tastes funny.

We Europeans, and that includes the British, even if I'll probably be drowned in lukewarm peppermint sauce the next time I'm there, find the idea of a chicken stinking of chlorine simply disgusting. And we don't like American cars because they're shit. To be more precise: they can't corner properly and guzzle petrol like a German tourist sipping sangria on Mallorca.
Tesla is synonymous with outdated, ugly and poor quality. In the breakdown statistics, they are significantly worse than Korean low-cost suppliers and also outrageously expensive. The fact that Tesla's sales figures are, shall we say, ‘influenced’ by the antics of the great white Führer from South Africa, adds to this.

 

[dolf]

Now let's talk about something that really is different over there in the old world - milk chocolate. You guys use that powdered milk stuff and your chocolate tastes funny

Your chocolate has a vomit aftertaste!

The chocolate I am currently nibbling on is a smooth, dark chocolate. 70% cocoa solids. Not overly sweet. It tastes positively lewd.

 

[Dw313]

This is not true. Farage wants people to believe it's true, but it isn't. The deal with India put's them on the same footing as Australia, New Zealand and fourteen other countries. It allows Indian companies to second workers from their Indian plants to fill gaps at their businesses in the UK without having to pay National Insurance. Those workers would still pay UK taxes plus a surcharge to allow them to use the NHS. It doesn't allow British companies to bring in Indian workers without paying National Insurance.

Britain currently exports 5% of its steel production to the USA so it will help a little. When it comes to cars, It's no big deal we have gone from having a 3$ tariff on British cars to a 10% tariff. My guess is that the manufacturers will take 2.5% hit, the importers will absorb 2.5% and the customers will see a 2% price increase. The quota is about the same as the quantity we currently export to the US and that market is forecast to shrink so it's not a problem. In general this much vaunted deal is a bit of a non deal all round.
As far as selling American cars in the UK, it has nothing to do with tariffs. American cars don't sell here because the USA doesn't make the sort of cars we want to drive. I mean, you can't get an F150 into a Uk parking space. We like cars that corner at 50 mph without rolling. We expect diesels to do 50 miles to the gallon and petrol cars to do 35 mpg or more. The Japanese get it, the Koreans get it but the US car makers seem to think that the rest of the world should just adopt their values cos they ain't gonna change. British manufacturers used to think like that, now there are very few left and those that are cater for a small section of the market.

Don’t mind being corrected on facts.
Still not convinced the trade deal is all it’s cracked up to be

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Now let's talk about something that really is different over there in the old world - milk chocolate. You guys use that powdered milk stuff and your chocolate tastes funny.

Oh, the milk chocolate...
And this from someone who has probably never tasted real Swiss Schoki.
I don't know what Americans use instead of milk. Probably bull semen or something. In any case, it tastes like a mixture of roofing felt and polypropylene.
Well, maybe I'm judging too harshly or even wrong. But as a German who grew up surrounded by German bread, Danish ice cream, Swiss Schoki and French cheese, I'm a little sensitive to silly insinuations from people who eat everything they can squeeze between two halves of a bread roll and nothing else.

 

[LeahWill]

???

Raw chicken might have bacteria on it, but 140 degrees (which would still result in undercooked chicken) is sufficient to kill most food borne contaminants.

I get that the UK doesn't want US produced food products because it hurts domestic producers. Why not just say that's the reason? Or that you prefer farm-to-table? There's nothing wrong with that although I'm sure that there are just as many who would accept US food products based on price and known safety record for consumers in the US.

It's like the narrative against Tesla cars. In order to be imported, sold, and driven on UK roads the car has to conform to UK safety standards and requirements. Saying you don't want them because they don't conform is silly because it can't be that way. It's clear that the whole thing is a political narrative attempting to find a basis to hang it on.

Why go there at all when it's so obviously transparent? Especially when the US exports meat products to other countries with no consumer issues. It's the same with cars.


Now let's talk about something that really is different over there in the old world - milk chocolate. You guys use that powdered milk stuff and your chocolate tastes funny.

It really doesn't matter what it is.

You put 'Made in the USA' on anything and the British public ain't gonna buy it.

"The UK has been one of Tesla's biggest markets in Europe, and it's seeing something of an EV boom, with 8.1 percent more BEVs registered in April 2025 than the year before, even as overall car sales have dropped by 10.4 percent year on year. But Tesla's sales fell by 62 percent—the automaker registered just 512 cars all month. For context, 120,331 new cars were registered in the UK last month, of which 24,558 were BEVs."

 

[Politruk]

Your chocolate has a vomit aftertaste!

The chocolate I am currently nibbling on is a smooth, dark chocolate. 70% cocoa solids. Not overly sweet. It tastes positively lewd.

You can get that here, but in drug stores, not convenience stores. To most Americans most of the time, "chocolate" means Nestle or Hershey's.

 

[dolf]

You can get that here, but in drug stores, not convenience stores. To most Americans most of the time, "chocolate" means Nestle or Hershey's.

I could never live in America. I'd be miserable without easy access to high quality chocolate and cheese.

 

[LeahWill]

I could never live in America. I'd be miserable without easy access to high quality chocolate and cheese.

I could never live in America. I'd be miserable without easy access to high quality chocolate and cheese.

You'll probably need to explain what cheese is. They're Americans...

 

[Politruk]

I could never live in America. I'd be miserable without easy access to high quality chocolate and cheese.

Many Americans couldn't live without barbecue. Try finding good BBQ in Europe.

 

[Lazaran]

I could never live in America. I'd be miserable without easy access to high quality chocolate and cheese.

America produces some amazing cheese.

I would agree that Europe does chocolate better.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

America produces some amazing cheese.

You are really funny.

 

[Politruk]

You'll probably need to explain what cheese is. They're Americans...

It's something that goes on pizza.

 

[Lazaran]

You are really funny.

An American cheese won best cheese in the world in 2020, so…



I’m not saying American cheeses are "better" on average than European, just that America DOES produce SOME amazing cheeses.

Wisconsin, Vermont, and Oregon produce some exceptional cheeses that compare favorably with the European standard.

I don’t believe any state makes a chocolate that approaches the European standard. (Ironically, some other countries outside America OR Europe make some exceptional chocolate.)

Related:

Europeans once believed a good wine couldn’t be produced in America.

Oops.

 

[DeYaKen]

Don’t mind being corrected on facts.
Still not convinced the trade deal is all it’s cracked up to be

The Indian deal is small beer. It is nothing like the free trade arrangement that we had with India before we joined the EEC However, in those days the demand for Rolls Royces and Range Rovers was pretty low in those days. What it did do was to show Trump that Britain's car industry, such as it is, could find other markets and wouldn't be as desperate as he thought.

 

[HisArpy]

I could never live in America. I'd be miserable without easy access to high quality chocolate and cheese.

Cream cheese is an American product created in 1872. So are California wines. Both of which are world class.

Dark chocolate is the same everywhere around the world because it's just cacao with sugar added. The grade depends on the amount of sugar.

American milk chocolate uses soured milk instead of powdered milk. You can look at it one of 2 ways; either we're strong and hearty because that's what we eat (and chlorine chicken too) or we're just nuts.

BTW, European milk chocolate tastes different (at least to me) depending on the region where it's made in Europe. It doesn't taste "bad" just different. Like wine it depends on where its from.

 

[dolf]

An American cheese won best cheese in the world in 2020, so…



I’m not saying American cheeses are "better" on average than European, just that America DOES produce SOME amazing cheeses.

Wisconsin, Vermont, and Oregon produce some exceptional cheeses that compare favorably with the European standard.

I don’t believe any state makes a chocolate that approaches the European standard. (Ironically, some other countries outside America OR Europe make some exceptional chocolate.)

Related:

Europeans once believed a good wine couldn’t be produced in America.

Oops.

I did say "easy access to"

There's going to be some artisan makers in the middle of nowhere , creating cheese that would make a French man cry. But i don't want to have to go on a quest every time I want decent cheese. I want world class cheese in my local deli, and also high end cheese in my local supermarket. I want to walk up to the cheese counter and see an award winning local cheese, a respectable selection of European imported cheese, I want the option of watching them cut me a wedge from the round. I don't want to nip to the shop and be faced with nothing but shrink wrapped orange rubber.

Cream cheese is an American product created in 1872. So are California wines. Both of which are world class.

Dark chocolate is the same everywhere around the world because it's just cacao with sugar added. The grade depends on the amount of sugar.

American milk chocolate uses soured milk instead of powdered milk. You can look at it one of 2 ways; either we're strong and hearty because that's what we eat (and chlorine chicken too) or we're just nuts.

BTW, European milk chocolate tastes different (at least to me) depending on the region where it's made in Europe. It doesn't taste "bad" just different. Like wine it depends on where its from.

Blasphemy!! Outrageous and disgusting slander!! Wash your mouth out!
That's like me saying all black coffee is the same, just because I have no taste for coffee.
Just at the local supermarket, not even venturing as far as the deli, I could have a choice of chocolate based on the country of origin of the beans.

All the same???

 

[dolf]

Dark chocolate is the same everywhere around the world because it's just cacao with sugar added. The grade depends on the amount of sugar.

American milk chocolate uses soured milk instead of powdered milk. You can look at it one of 2 ways; either we're strong and hearty because that's what we eat (and chlorine chicken too) or we're just nuts.

BTW, European milk chocolate tastes different (at least to me) depending on the region where it's made in Europe. It doesn't taste "bad" just different. Like wine it depends on where its from.

This is like someone telling me that reading is overrated, me assuming that they have rejected Steinbeck and Hardy, only for me to then discover that their only reading material has been adverts for industrial machine lubricant

 

[dolf]

I'm not angry. I'm just very, very, very disappointed.

 

[colddiesel]

America produces some amazing cheese.

I would agree that Europe does chocolate better.

Definitely amazing, but is it Cheese?

 

[JohnEngelman]

Another Trump win. As expected. Let the leftie tears flow.

Why is it a win when Americans need to pay 10% tariffs on British goods we want to buy?

 

[Lazaran]

I did say "easy access to"

There's going to be some artisan makers in the middle of nowhere , creating cheese that would make a French man cry. But i don't want to have to go on a quest every time I want decent cheese.

To be fair, when many (most?) Americans want something (artisan cheese, chocolate, etc) they just go on-line and order it. Where I live I can go to any number of large grocery stores or specialty shops and get artisan cheese, chocolate, etc) from America and from around the world that is always in stock.
Fairly “easy access”.

Definitely amazing, but is it Cheese?

America produces some award winning cheese. Do Europeans really believe Americans eat nothing but processed cheese???

 

[dolf]

To be fair, when many (most?) Americans want something (artisan cheese, chocolate, etc) they just go on-line and order it. Where I live I can go to any number of large grocery stores or specialty shops and get artisan cheese, chocolate, etc) from America and from around the world that is always in stock.
Fairly “easy access”.

Next day delivery?
Plan your cravings 24-48 hours in advance??



Living in a rural area, there's some things I need to order and I hate it. And now you've made me think about it, I'm craving Barfi. I'm craving it today, not midweek. Fucksake!

 

[Lance_Castro]

America produces some award winning cheese.

Roary, delux666, elleelle74, lazyalsoran, etc….

… all cheesy, but non have ever won an Award.

Lol

 

[Lance_Castro]

Speaking of cheese, i do like those Welsh crumbly cheddars.

In Canada, Quebec makes some great cheeses, very similar to the better French ones, possibly better.

That Wisconsin stuff is garbage. American food is junk.

 

[Lazaran]

Next day delivery?
Plan your cravings 24-48 hours in advance??



Living in a rural area, there's some things I need to order and I hate it. And now you've made me think about it, I'm craving Barfi. I'm craving it today, not midweek. Fucksake!

Damn, you’re hard to please (satisfy?).







Seriously, though, we in America can get high quality cheese, chocolate, etc, without much difficulty / effort…for now…

With “DonOld the dotard” in charge, things could change radically & rapidly.