Female Archetypes

[AlinaX]

There are plenty of interesting stories to tell, if you put your mind to it.

Try reading the Loving Wives story "The Fucking Bitch!" Read it all the way to the end before deciding whether she's a dumb bimbo, whore, or whatever. You can only learn at the end who she really is, and who is really the dumbass.

I think I just lost the will to live.

 

[yowser]

I am anxiously awaiting the alternative to this, someone starting the Male Archetype Thread, Extensive (MATE) so we can run through the Acronym Alphabet.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I think I just lost the will to live.

But did you READ it?

Here's a comment from a reader who actually got it!:
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by Cointoss  on 04/09/2025

Admire the character Stacy's spirit, her conviction to live her life by her rules, share her rules w/ her shitty husband, hold him accountable and not play anyone's victim. For those reasons five stars. Even the lactating striptease was proportional payback to an immature spouse's deception.
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EDIT: BTW, in my Loving Wives stories, I mostly try poking at the BTB afficionados as I try to set their hair on fire.

 

[Erozetta]

OK...
My point is...
Why use it?????????
Does it make the story sexier?
I don't think so... Just my opinion.
A young man is attracted to a friends Mother, he thinks she's hot... Just say that...

Cagivagurl

It makes a chance for conflict based off of that notion of dehumanizing the mom.

There's a different reaction available when a friend says, "Damn, man, you didn't warn me your mom was such a MILF." than when he says "Oh, shit. Your mom's hot as fuck!"

The second could just be an awkward shrug and a "She's my mom and this isn't an incestuous story, it didn't occur to me."

While the first can have fists flying because of the implied disrespect to the character's mom. "That's my mom, dipshit!" Mike's closed first caught Johnny's jaw, knocking him back a pace before the distracted man even realized he'd been hit.

Sometimes the dehumanizing is the point and there's nothing wrong with that in erotica. It's not my thing, personally, but for a lot of people lessening the partner or love interest to a trope is the entire draw of the story.

 

[TheRedChamber]

I am anxiously awaiting the alternative to this, someone starting the Male Archetype Thread, Extensive (MATE) so we can run through the Acronym Alphabet.

You can do it now yourself if you like or I'll set it up once this thread fire burns itself out.

 

[Cagivagurl]

It makes a chance for conflict based off of that notion of dehumanizing the mom.

There's a different reaction available when a friend says, "Damn, man, you didn't warn me your mom was such a MILF." than when he says "Oh, shit. Your mom's hot as fuck!"

The second could just be an awkward shrug and a "She's my mom and this isn't an incestuous story, it didn't occur to me."

While the first can have fists flying because of the implied disrespect to the character's mom. "That's my mom, dipshit!" Mike's closed first caught Johnny's jaw, knocking him back a pace before the distracted man even realized he'd been hit.

Sometimes the dehumanizing is the point and there's nothing wrong with that in erotica. It's not my thing, personally, but for a lot of people lessening the partner or love interest to a trope is the entire draw of the story.

OK... I get what you're saying. I simply see it a different way. Not saying I'm right, just a different perspective...
We've established that there's a woman, and she's "Hot as fuck" I think we have all met people who make us say that.
We've established she is a mother. Perhaps married, perhaps not, but she is damned attractive...
Where I part ways with you is. Why use a demeaning terminology??? To fetishise her, to turn her into nothing more than object?
She is hot, and yeah the young guy probably does wanna fuck her... Say that... Don't break her down and objectify her.

Just my thoughts...
Cagivagurl

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

Girl next door? Little sister type?

 

[Lifestyle66]

OK... I get what you're saying. I simply see it a different way. Not saying I'm right, just a different perspective...
We've established that there's a woman, and she's "Hot as fuck" I think we have all met people who make us say that.
We've established she is a mother. Perhaps married, perhaps not, but she is damned attractive...
Where I part ways with you is. Why use a demeaning terminology??? To fetishise her, to turn her into nothing more than object?
She is hot, and yeah the young guy probably does wanna fuck her... Say that... Don't break her down and objectify her.

Just my thoughts...
Cagivagurl

Fifty years ago, the comedian, George Carlin had a skit about the "Seven Words You Can't Say on TV."

"Bad words! Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cock-sucker, Mother-fucker, and Tits! Those are 'Bad words!' ... There are no bad words. There are bad thoughts. Bad intentions. ... And WORDS!"

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Where I part ways with you is. Why use a demeaning terminology??? To fetishise her, to turn her into nothing more than object?
She is hot, and yeah the young guy probably does wanna fuck her... Say that... Don't break her down and objectify her.

Because that would be writing judgmentally. When we write judgmentally we limit our characters and stories. If none of our characters ever demean or objectify any others all we have is fluff. There are only so many fluff stories to be told and they've all been told a jillion times. When we stop writing judgmentally, we open up endless possibilities for new exciting conflicts and plots.

Also, when we write judgmentally like this - never breaking social rules - we are also writing preachy which turns off a ton of readers.

You can stick to your Hallmark stuff. You can also criticize the rest of us who are willing to stretch our imaginations to new places. You do you. no judgment from me.

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

Yummy Mummy - a woman who is still attractive despite have a young child/children.

If I heard a person use this term in a serious context, I think I would quit talking to them.

 

[Erozetta]

OK... I get what you're saying. I simply see it a different way. Not saying I'm right, just a different perspective...
We've established that there's a woman, and she's "Hot as fuck" I think we have all met people who make us say that.
We've established she is a mother. Perhaps married, perhaps not, but she is damned attractive...
Where I part ways with you is. Why use a demeaning terminology??? To fetishise her, to turn her into nothing more than object?
She is hot, and yeah the young guy probably does wanna fuck her... Say that... Don't break her down and objectify her.

Just my thoughts...
Cagivagurl

Did you miss the whole "the demeaning aspect can create conflict where respectful wording can't?" or the "dehumanizing is the kink for many people whether we like it or not" parts?

I'm not saying anyone has to write in a dehumanizing way, write it how you want it written. Unless I was aiming for conflict between the characters, I wouldn't write it this way, but I can see why others might and I'm not interested in telling other people how to write. I can offer suggestions when asked, but if it serves a purpose within the story, I see no issue with it and would rather focus on my own projects.

But now I'm kinda considering an incest story with this sort of dehumanization from an outside source being the catalyst for family fucking, so thanks!

 

[Erozetta]

Yummy Mummy - a woman who is still attractive despite have a young child/children.

*Notes Halloween idea*

 

[Freesoulita]

F

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

Shy girls, spacey artsy types...

Is there a word/trope for the women who go hard for their family/friends/pets? Women who "love hard"?

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

Women who know their worth and aren't willing to settle for anything less?

 

[AlinaX]

I remember being uncomfortable with MILF in the wake of American Pie, but it seems to be one of those phrases that can be reclaimed, so to speak.

"You look nice tonight, Mom."
"Yeah? Luce says I look like a MILF. What do you think?"
"Ew, Mom! Don't ask me that!"

 

[Wonderer67]

You listed professional, but I think you meant in the context of like a sex professional.

This one might be so generic, but I have such a thing for professional women at work, all different sizes, shapes, levels in the organization. Some of them are super professional, and a business attire, and others are much more casual wearing jeans to the office.

Prolly won’t work for your purposes since it’s quite variable.

But I do like the list on your first post!

 

[TheLobster]

But now I'm kinda considering an incest story with this sort of dehumanization from an outside source being the catalyst for family fucking, so thanks!

"Damn, your mom sure is a MILF!"
"Yup, she is."
...
"Wait a minute... I know what 'I' in my 'MILF' is. What's the 'I' in yours?"
"Uh, I think I have somewhere else to be..."

 

[TheLobster]

Is there a word/trope for the women who go hard for their family/friends/pets? Women who "love hard"?

"Mama Bear", though AFAIK it only really applies to the mother/child relationship.

 

[Erozetta]

"Damn, your mom sure is a MILF!"
"Yup, she is."
...
"Wait a minute... I know what 'I' in my 'MILF' is. What's the 'I' in yours?"
"Uh, I think I have somewhere else to be..."

Going a step further, I was actually thinking siblings with the sister being a new-ish parent and a friend of brother's overstepping the respectful line of observing the body changes that come with that.

 

[MelissaBaby]

Women who know their worth and aren't willing to settle for anything less?

“Bitch”

 

[Cagivagurl]

Because that would be writing judgmentally. When we write judgmentally we limit our characters and stories. If none of our characters ever demean or objectify any others all we have is fluff. There are only so many fluff stories to be told and they've all been told a jillion times. When we stop writing judgmentally, we open up endless possibilities for new exciting conflicts and plots.

Also, when we write judgmentally like this - never breaking social rules - we are also writing preachy which turns off a ton of readers.

You can stick to your Hallmark stuff. You can also criticize the rest of us who are willing to stretch our imaginations to new places. You do you. no judgment from me.

I criticised nobody. simply expressed my opinion.
It may differ from yours. That doesn't make it any less valid.
There was no preaching. I merely stated how I feel about dehumanising women.
It might seem harmless, and a bit of fun... Call her a MILF, who cares?
No worse than calling her a Broad, or a bimbo...Or even a Dumb blonde... Right?"
Say it often enough and it becomes part of everyday use. Unfortunately, it also means what it means is accepted as well. Young guys think it's OK to objectify women. They're only there for their fun anyway...

I think it's possible to write arousing sexy stories without objectifying women. Or anybody else for that matter....
Not saying I'm right. Just saying.

Cagivagurl

 

[AlinaX]

Words have power. Let's make some better ones.

Golden Warrior - A women who will gladly piss all over you and won't take any shit.

 

[AlinaX]

Amazon - A woman with only one recorded breast. Possibly a cock too. Answers to Alexa.

Tanka Maid - A woman with a whip who counts syllables.

Witch - A woman who keeps having to correct typos.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Women who know their worth and aren't willing to settle for anything less?

“Bitch”

Because all the stroker guys on lit love this woman, yet if this woman existed she would never settle for any of these stroker guys, so yea, the stroker guys call her "bitch" since she won't put out (for them). ; )