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Hamas admits 72% of deaths are combat-aged men as it quietly reduces civilian death toll - report​

Approximately 72% of fatalities are aged 13-55 and are men - the demographic category aligns with Hamas combatants.​


Hamas quietly removed the names of thousands of Palestinians it had previously alleged were killed during the Israel-Hamas war, Salo Aizenberg, from the US-based non-profit organisation Honest Reporting told The Telegraph on Tuesday after analyzing Hamas’s March 2025 casualty update.

Hamas has previously claimed that 70% of casualties have been women and children, a claim no longer reflected in their recently updated lists, according to the research. Approximately 72% of fatalities between the ages of 13-55 are men - the demographic category aligns with Hamas combatants.

“Hamas’s new March 2025 fatality list quietly drops 3,400 fully ‘identified’ deaths listed in its August and October 2024 reports – including 1,080 children. These ‘deaths’ never happened. The numbers were falsified – again,” Aizenberg asserted.

“We knew there were rafts of errors in their reporting,” report author Andrew Fox said. “There’s a reasonable explanation in that their computer systems went down in November 2023, so it’s been challenging for them to report accurately, but the lists are so unreliable that the world’s media shouldn’t be quoting them as reliable.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-848592

Of course we on the right knew the numbers claimed by Hamas were phony, but they fooled all of the cheering American left, including the thread starter.
 
Of course we on the right knew the numbers claimed by Hamas were phony, but they fooled all of the cheering American left, including the thread starter.
That's unfair to @II74. I just read back through the earliest posts in this thread, and from the beginning he was skeptical of the causality claims being made by Hamas.
 
So what? That is no excuse for the Israelis to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. You can't hold them all personally responsible for voting for Hamas -- if it worked like that, every Israeli who voted Likud should be put to death.
But that's silly. You can't say, "Hey don't shoot at that guy with the rocket launcher, he didn't vote for Hamas, shoot at the guy next to him with the AK-47, he's the bad guy"!

All the Germans that lived in Eastern Europe (Poland, Belarus etc.) had to leave after WWII. If they'd said, "You can't hold me personally responsible," they'd only have gotten laughs.
 
This is a slight deviation but I’ve been wondering how many other regimes and terrorist groups will fall in the fall out of Hamas’ breaking the ceasefire in place on Oct 7 and their failed attempt to obliterate Israel. *
So far it’s Lebanon, and Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas and soon the Houthis. I suspect Yemen and Iran will soon lose their Muslim Arab government.
Any bets on who else will fall?

*The Hamas Covenant
 
This is a slight deviation but I’ve been wondering how many other regimes and terrorist groups will fall in the fall out of Hamas’ breaking the ceasefire in place on Oct 7 and their failed attempt to obliterate Israel. *
So far it’s Lebanon, and Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas and soon the Houthis. I suspect Yemen and Iran will soon lose their Muslim Arab government.
Any bets on who else will fall?

*The Hamas Covenant
Iran does not have an Arab government.
 
But that's silly. You can't say, "Hey don't shoot at that guy with the rocket launcher, he didn't vote for Hamas, shoot at the guy next to him with the AK-47, he's the bad guy"!

All the Germans that lived in Eastern Europe (Poland, Belarus etc.) had to leave after WWII. If they'd said, "You can't hold me personally responsible," they'd only have gotten laughs.
Stand tall for 'guilt by association' there, friend.
It's the Israeli way, y'know? :cautious:
 
Iran does not have an Arab government.
The mullah are not Persian according to my Iranian Persian friends.
The Khomeini family claims to be descented from Musa Al-Kashmir who was born in Medina, Saudi Arabia.
Before 1921 they went by Hindi which meant India from where their grandfather migrated.
 
Hel_Books said:
All the Germans that lived in Eastern Europe (Poland, Belarus etc.) had to leave after WWII. If they'd said, "You can't hold me personally responsible," they'd only have gotten laughs.

Understandable, but nevertheless their removal was a crime.
The key, of course, is "understandable." It kept the peace. Imagine if they hadn't been removed and turned into terrorists, setting off bombs in Warsaw or kidnapping people in Kaliningrad and demanding the restoration of the Third Reich!
 
Hel_Books said:
But that's silly. You can't say, "Hey don't shoot at that guy with the rocket launcher, he didn't vote for Hamas, shoot at the guy next to him with the AK-47, he's the bad guy"!

All the Germans that lived in Eastern Europe (Poland, Belarus etc.) had to leave after WWII. If they'd said, "You can't hold me personally responsible," they'd only have gotten laughs.

Stand tall for 'guilt by association' there, friend.
It's the Israeli way, y'know? :cautious:
But that's silly! "Guilt by association" is saying that because your friend is a murderer and a kidnapper we'll arrest both of you.

In a war, on the other hand, you can't simply say Colonel Klink is the bad guy and Sergeant Schultz is the good guy!
 

And it has been repeated and reported ad nauseam: Hamas uses ambulances for the transport of fighters and weapons.

As long as Hanas (with their history of MISUSING ambulances, etc,) is in control, fighting, holding hostages, and running the show, there will undoubtedly be (more) incidents like this.

(10/7, etc, also makes Hamas’ cries of “foul!!!” ring hollow.)

Ironically, Hamas and the "innocent Palestinian people" should have acceded to President Biden’s ceasefire proposal early on and avoided having the issue contribute to Trump’s election - because now all bets are off, and so are the gloves.

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We. Told. Them. So.

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And it still doesn't negate actual war crimes.

Unless and until Hamas is no longer in charge (operating / manning the ambulances, etc,) and the emergency services are operated under the auspices of a fully vetted non-terrorist authority, the ambulances, etc, will be fair game, with the accusations of “war crimes” being moot.

The "innocent Palestinian people" in Gaza know what they have to do. There HAVE been sparks of protest in Gaza against Hamas , so there IS hope.

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We. Told. Them. So.

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Unless and until Hamas is no longer in charge (operating / manning the ambulances, etc,) and the emergency services are operated under the auspices of a fully vetted non-terrorist authority, the ambulances, etc, will be fair game, with the accusations of “war crimes” being moot.

The "innocent Palestinian people" in Gaza know what they have to do. There HAVE been sparks of protest in Gaza against Hamas , so there IS hope.

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We. Told. Them. So.

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I am not buying your rationalization at all. This was a convoy of Red Crescent ("a fully vetted non-terrorist authority") and were operating with full emergency lights on and workers wearing reflective safety vests.

The gutless Israeli propaganda office explained it as 8 ambulances skulking without lights and crewed by members wearing black outfits. They also reported a high value Hamas representative was killed in the conflict.

Each of the above two sentences are blood libel lies.

Israeli terrorists wearing uniforms ambushed and executied 8 unarmed crews, torturing one man (stabbing him through the palm of the hand in a quest for "information" and stripped and beat another crewman to death with their rifle butts.

The Israeli terrorists realized they fucked up, and buried everything in the sand.

And they continued to lie even after the bodies were found and recovered.

until...the body of the guy who had been in the last ambulance had his pants emptied out...and they found his cell phone that had recorded the entire massacre.

Only then did the Israeli propaganda ministry change its official story to "meh....fog of war".

Attempting to hold the Gazan people responsible for the war crimes of Israeli troops is equal parts ridiculous and reprehensible.

This. Is. A. War. Crime.

Period.

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when was the last time teh Red Crescent went to bring aid to the hostages as they are supposed to?

FUCK THEM
 
I am not buying your rationalization at all. This was a convoy of Red Crescent ("a fully vetted non-terrorist authority") and were operating with full emergency lights on and workers wearing reflective safety vests.

The gutless Israeli propaganda office explained it as 8 ambulances skulking without lights and crewed by members wearing black outfits. They also reported a high value Hamas representative was killed in the conflict.

Each of the above two sentences are blood libel lies.

Israeli terrorists wearing uniforms ambushed and executied 8 unarmed crews, torturing one man (stabbing him through the palm of the hand in a quest for "information" and stripped and beat another crewman to death with their rifle butts.

The Israeli terrorists realized they fucked up, and buried everything in the sand.

And they continued to lie even after the bodies were found and recovered.

until...the body of the guy who had been in the last ambulance had his pants emptied out...and they found his cell phone that had recorded the entire massacre.

Only then did the Israeli propaganda ministry change its official story to "meh....fog of war".

Attempting to hold the Gazan people responsible for the war crimes of Israeli troops is equal parts ridiculous and reprehensible.

This. Is. A. War. Crime.

Period.

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1) We saw the very end of the video, right before the shooting started.

2) Hamas claims the victims were “bound and executed”, but it is clear from the video that the victims were NOT “bound and executed”.

3) There are never women or older paramedics in these "humanitarian convoys", always fighting age men.

4) I will repeat: Hamas uses ambulances to transport weapons and fighters (as well as using schools and hospitals as bases of operation.)

5) NO humanitarian organization currently working in Gaza is "vetted".

6) Currently, the event IS in the “fog of war” realm, because Hamas is still in charge, and the fighting and hostage situation remain active. Hamas clearly lying about the victims being “bound and executed” only further clouds the matter.

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Meanwhile: In Ukraine, a Russian missile hit a playground and killed 7 kids, but I see zero concern from the “free Palestine” crowd. (And Russia is the aggressor in that war - just like Hamas / Gaza was the aggressor in the current war in "Palestine".

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Also:

We. Told. Them. So.

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I am not buying your rationalization at all. This was a convoy of Red Crescent ("a fully vetted non-terrorist authority") and were operating with full emergency lights on and workers wearing reflective safety vests.

The gutless Israeli propaganda office explained it as 8 ambulances skulking without lights and crewed by members wearing black outfits. They also reported a high value Hamas representative was killed in the conflict.

Each of the above two sentences are blood libel lies.

Israeli terrorists wearing uniforms ambushed and executied 8 unarmed crews, torturing one man (stabbing him through the palm of the hand in a quest for "information" and stripped and beat another crewman to death with their rifle butts.

The Israeli terrorists realized they fucked up, and buried everything in the sand.

And they continued to lie even after the bodies were found and recovered.

until...the body of the guy who had been in the last ambulance had his pants emptied out...and they found his cell phone that had recorded the entire massacre.

Only then did the Israeli propaganda ministry change its official story to "meh....fog of war".

Attempting to hold the Gazan people responsible for the war crimes of Israeli troops is equal parts ridiculous and reprehensible.

This. Is. A. War. Crime.

Period.

đŸ„€
BIBAS BABIES
 
I am not buying your rationalization at all. This was a convoy of Red Crescent ("a fully vetted non-terrorist authority") and were operating with full emergency lights on and workers wearing reflective safety vests.

The gutless Israeli propaganda office explained it as 8 ambulances skulking without lights and crewed by members wearing black outfits. They also reported a high value Hamas representative was killed in the conflict.

Each of the above two sentences are blood libel lies.

Israeli terrorists wearing uniforms ambushed and executied 8 unarmed crews, torturing one man (stabbing him through the palm of the hand in a quest for "information" and stripped and beat another crewman to death with their rifle butts.

The Israeli terrorists realized they fucked up, and buried everything in the sand.

And they continued to lie even after the bodies were found and recovered.

until...the body of the guy who had been in the last ambulance had his pants emptied out...and they found his cell phone that had recorded the entire massacre.

Only then did the Israeli propaganda ministry change its official story to "meh....fog of war".

Attempting to hold the Gazan people responsible for the war crimes of Israeli troops is equal parts ridiculous and reprehensible.

This. Is. A. War. Crime.

Period.

đŸ„€
Your goose-stepping anti-Semitism is in full hob-nailed glory today.
 
This thread will be updates related to the war between Hamas and Israel. The other thread on the topic was focused on Biden's foreign policies. This is related to political and military happenings by those involved as well as reaction from the International community.

Starting off, the immediate actions of Israel against Hamas. (I support the destruction of Hamas)

Israeli sucks. They created Hamas. All this despicable garbage was planned long ago.
 
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