You won’t like this….just sayin’

Is there no room for us to make some things and others to make things too? Maybe there’s a middle ground?
 
^^^Oops. Confirmed MAGAt.


You slipped up, like all Deplorables eventually do. Fuck off. :)
Haha!! You’re so clever!! You’ve figured it all out. lol

There’s no way someone’s in the middle. That’s impossible! I love it
 
By the way, I’m loving all the feedback from both sides!!! I think it’s better to hear everyone’s point of view. It’s way more constructive
 
Well, we can make it here…but it’s expensive. Americans use the dollar and it’s a pricey salary. But, maybe there’s a middle ground.

Here’s a scenario… “hey, you don’t have any Ford’s or Chevey’s in the UK. Wtf?!?!” I’m gonna tarrif you!!”

UK’s response, “OK, OK, we’ll build some more Mercedes in the U.S. Are you happy?

U.S. : Yes, I can hire a bunch of people to build those!

Uhm.. Mercedes is German. 😉

And, what.. there are about 300 million Americans, right? The consumers of the world.
- There are about 450 million EU citizens. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I am not so sure that your math and psychology adds up.

Again, trading is not a zero-sum game.
 
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But I do like the radical nature of cutting costs on government expenditures. I do like the idea of bargaining with countries who tariff us.
trump lacks the intelligence to lead America into whatever new world economy the business community wants. I assert that now is not even the time for that seeing as how America’s post pandemic economy was thriving in comparison to other developed nations. trump, nor musk, have provided any evidence of government waste or fraud. The cuts you laud have hurt the most vulnerable here and abroad - all the while not one slash to corporate subsidies and massive tax loopholes. I’d respect musk and austerity loving conservatives had he started first with auditing Spacex. He didn’t. 😡
 
By the way, I’m loving all the feedback from both sides!!! I think it’s better to hear everyone’s point of view. It’s way more constructive
See. I have to disagree with you here. Dems aren’t perfect. They fuck up aplenty. But sometimes you should take a step back and look at the forest. Don’t compare members trying to give you an honest exchange with this fucker Nacho. You seem like an astute American - when the economic policies you like turn into a Nazi salute and Skeeter saddling up next to you waving a confederate flag with trump’s face on it - I say maybe it’s time to reassess your values.
 
See. I have to disagree with you here. Dems aren’t perfect. They fuck up aplenty. But sometimes you should take a step back and look at the forest. Don’t compare members trying to give you an honest exchange with this fucker Nacho. You seem like an astute American - when the economic policies you like turn into a Nazi salute and Skeeter saddling up next to you waving a confederate flag with trump’s face on it - I say maybe it’s time to reassess your values.
I’m an equal opportunist! I think both sides need their voices heard. The more opposing views I get the better it is. Actually, I think the majority of people fit in the middle. The loudest ones are at the Extremes
 
It's fun to see folks still believing that slapping tariffs on foreign goods is somehow going to hurt the other countries and their businesses, that Americans will find alternatives to those goods and live merrily ever after. What goods are we exactly talking about here? Eggs? Wood? Steel? Electronics? Cars? Planes?
What about the components used in products like electronics and cars? How are you going to tariff that? Has anyone thought about the well balanced juggling act that goes on between manufacturing and supply chain?

To all those getting ecstatic about tariffs, here's a real scenario for you:
  1. A car uses 75% components that are manufactured in the US. The remaining come from Japan. It gets built in Canada. Now you slap a 25% tariff on it when imported to the US. Americans can't afford it and sales plummet. Who does it hurt?
  2. A car has 80% of the components coming from Germany. Only about 5% of the parts it uses are built in the USA. However the final build happens in the USA. No tariffs. Who gets hurt?
 
I’m an equal opportunist! I think both sides need their voices heard. The more opposing views I get the better it is. Actually, I think the majority of people fit in the middle. The loudest ones are at the Extremes
Ok. Enough.
Who did you vote for and why?
 
It's fun to see folks still believing that slapping tariffs on foreign goods is somehow going to hurt the other countries and their businesses, that Americans will find alternatives to those goods and live merrily ever after. What goods are we exactly talking about here? Eggs? Wood? Steel? Electronics? Cars? Planes?
What about the components used in products like electronics and cars? How are you going to tariff that? Has anyone thought about the well balanced juggling act that goes on between manufacturing and supply chain?

To all those getting ecstatic about tariffs, here's a real scenario for you:
  1. A car uses 75% components that are manufactured in the US. The remaining come from Japan. It gets built in Canada. Now you slap a 25% tariff on it when imported to the US. Americans can't afford it and sales plummet. Who does it hurt?
  2. A car has 80% of the components coming from Germany. Only about 5% of the parts it uses are built in the USA. However the final build happens in the USA. No tariffs. Who gets hurt?

The next thing is, these new and, why - I do not think I have any words, to describe the madness of these tariffs.
But tariffs, they are also extremely political.

No one likes a bully, you might get away with using this tactic on the negotiation table once or twice, but international politics is a different game all together.
Here we have/had alliances that lasted 80 years.

So when the American president tries to bully the rest of the world, it starts an avalanche of chain reactions:

  • China, Japan and South Korea, these countries are not usually talking together, but after the tariffs, they have been meeting up and creating a possible new alliance.
  • Canada has been participating in a lot of EU meetings lately.
  • The NATO countries are all buying loads and loads of military material, but where we used to buy "made in USA" - we are now increasingly buying "made in EU".
Protectionism makes everyone poorer, the rest of the world seems to know this.

But, most importantly: with these tariffs, the president and his administration has shown the world, that they are no longer trustworthy.

And trust is everything.
 
So I have a question for everyone. Let’s just say that, hypothetically, we implement these tariffs and the world doesn’t come to an end. Then we eliminate income tax on anyone making under $150,000. Is that good or bad? Would you still want to pay your income tax or would you take the benefit of not having to pay?
 
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