An Apology from an American.

[BrightShinyGirl]

40+ years into denial about the same ol' shit working THIS TIME!!! LOL

Oh and any deviation from the same ol' shit? THAT'S FASCISM!!! LOL

What you you mean by the "same ol' shit"?

 

[UltraChad]

What you you mean by the "same ol' shit"?

This same ol' shit....
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The establishment everyone grew tired of 40 years ago and elected Obama to do something about in 08'.....then after "hope and change" turned out to be "same ol' shit" Trump came in and the political world in the USA as it had been understood basically kersploded.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

This same ol' shit....
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You have a problem with women in positions of authority?

 

[UltraChad]

You have a problem with women in positions of authority?

No.

I have a problem with warmongering corporate suits wanting to use government power to take my shit and force me to work/fight to fill their pockets.

Do you have a problem with men in positions of authority?

 

[Buffalogurl]

I just want to say, as an American, Patriot, lover of my country and of peace freedom and justice,

I am appalled and saddened by what is happening in my country.

This post is mainly for the Non-Americans out there on this forum. The Brits, Australians, Canadians, and others. Just so you know, most Americans do NOT support the actions of our government, both in our country and especially in terms of foreign policy. It is true, many of us did vote for Trump, and we did so under the belief, however naive, that he would reverse the economic trends of inflation that were hurting our pocketbooks, and deliver safety in the form of secure borders.

We did NOT vote for abandoning our allies, breaking our treaties, becoming traitors to everything America once stood for and joining what our former leader, Ronald Reagan, a truly great statesman and American, called the "Axis of Evil. We did NOT vote for supporting Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine. We did NOT vote for destroying our infrastructure and all the good that our country does for it's citizens, so that a few billionaire oligarchs could become even wealthier billionaires. We did NOT vote for pollution, for outspoken racism and the return of Jim Crow. We did NOT vote for Project 2025, which Trump himself assured his supporters that he did not want.

We did not vote for this, because this is not what America stands for. This is not what America IS.
There are those on this forum who pretend to be Americans who will insist otherwise. I say "Pretend" to be Americans because I strongly suspect they are not, no matter how much they try to convince us. They also try to be deceptive by creating multiple aliases on the forum, so as to give the impression that their toxic world views reflect a larger percentage of Americans than they do.

Americans are not like this. We never were, and we still are not. We are better than this. This leader does NOT represent who we the people are or what we are about. Even most of those who voted for Trump, for whatever reasons, are not at all supportive of what he is doing to America and to the world, and even regret doing so.

So I will take this time to apologize, on behalf of all Americans, to the world. One day, I hope that America will truly be made great again, to be the beacon of liberty and freedom that it once was.

Signed,
An American.

F@#k the world.... we've been the dumping ground, the endless bank account and my people have been killed because of former crime families in power sending them to be the world's police force.. my tax dollars have been stolen, my culture ridiculed and my race maligned..... not any longer....... America first.....

 

[Politruk]

as well as trim down the bloated Federal bureacracy that has been growing uncontrollably.

No one ever gives any good reason to believe the USG employs more civil servants than it needs to. It seems to be simply an article of faith.

 

[Politruk]

I guess it was a toss up. Vote for Harris and the destruction of the USA

Nothing about the Dem agenda threatens the USA with destruction. The Pub agenda does because it is committed to ignoring climate change as a problem.

 

[Politruk]

You people better wake the fuck up and wake the fuck up fast because what is about to go down Is going to bring this country to its knees! And if it doesnt, you DONT DESERVE TO BE CALLED AN AMERICAN! Hang on to your hats, your about to be shaken to the core! Will you survive? Only those who can't accept reality and the TRUTH in what has not only happened to our country, but what has happened to our WOLRD ! Good luck!

Please try to rewrite that so it means something.

 

[Politruk]

I think it's quite clear Trump is doing his best and making good plays. Not his fault Zelensky is a greedy tough guy wannabe who is far less interested in peace than keeping his war sourced income streaming at the expense of his own country and citizens.

Zelenskyy is a national hero to Ukraine, which Trump never will be to the U.S., and you have no reason to believe he has any "war-sourced income."

 

[Politruk]

FFS, grow up - it's not a kid's playground.

The Lit PB is no place for grownups.

 

[Politruk]

Nope, I think he's right in that there is a tremendous amount of waste and corruption permeating the Federal bureaucracy.

No one really has any good reason to believe that. DOGE has not found any yet. Most of the corruption in DC is in the legislative branch and takes the form of campaign contributions.

 

[Mature4P]

I guess it was a toss up. Vote for Harris and the destruction of the USA, or Trump and major reforms that would keep us going for another generation or two without imploding.

I did factor in Trump's attitude to Ukraine and figured he was just playing to the MAGA hardliners and then it would be realpolitik.

What I didn't factor in there was the Tucker Carlson virus taking over Trump's brain.

Like I said, a toss up and I make no apologies for that.

Trump doesn't have a brain.

 

[Politruk]

Education - delete.

There is no reason to.

 

[eric_erosfan]

I guess it was a toss up. Vote for Harris and the destruction of the USA, or Trump and major reforms that would keep us going for another generation or two without imploding.

I did factor in Trump's attitude to Ukraine and figured he was just playing to the MAGA hardliners and then it would be realpolitik.

What I didn't factor in there was the Tucker Carlson virus taking over Trump's brain.

Like I said, a toss up and I make no apologies for that.

Geez Dave. The closest to destruction of America has been with the fat orange imbecile in the White House.

So you voted for the racism, the chaos, the daily idiocy that will eventually lead to our destruction but you did not vote for the Putin tiny cock sucking? At least you have a line.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Geez Dave. The closest to destruction of America has been with the fat orange imbecile in the White House.

So you voted for the racism, the chaos, the daily idiocy that will eventually lead to our destruction but you did not vote for the Putin tiny cock sucking? At least you have a line.

LOL. You got it, Erika.

The internal reforms Trump is doing are overdue and needed, and only someone as whacko as Trump can get them done. The end results will be beneficial.

As for Ukraine, Trump's fucking that up bigtime, as well as toasting our international credibility, but Ukraine should be able to fight on without us now.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

You have a problem with women in positions of authority?

No but apparently you democrats do…

 

[eric_erosfan]

No but apparently you democrats do…

Lol. Outed yourself as a Shad alt. Or should I say sad alt.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Nope, I think

That's your first mistake Chloe. Thinking you think.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

F@#k the world.... we've been the dumping ground, the endless bank account and my people have been killed because of former crime families in power sending them to be the world's police force.. my tax dollars have been stolen, my culture ridiculed and my race maligned..... not any longer....... America first.....

It has always been about America first. You're just to stupid to understand it.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

No, Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang is saying they were wrong AND they were right.

They don’t feel they’re subject to “We told you so”, because even with all the obvious carnage, disfunction, criminality, and treason going on with this administration, they still feel it (voting for President Musk (and DonOld)) was “worth it”.

That ^ is what we are dealing with.



JFC

SAD!!!

True.

Observe Chloe's continued attempts to gaslight and rationalize.

Oh, well, I don't like what he's doing with the Jews, true, but the economy is BOOMING! said Germany back in the day

 

[DeYaKen]

I just want to say, as an American, Patriot, lover of my country and of peace freedom and justice,

I am appalled and saddened by what is happening in my country.

This post is mainly for the Non-Americans out there on this forum. The Brits, Australians, Canadians, and others. Just so you know, most Americans do NOT support the actions of our government, both in our country and especially in terms of foreign policy. It is true, many of us did vote for Trump, and we did so under the belief, however naive, that he would reverse the economic trends of inflation that were hurting our pocketbooks, and deliver safety in the form of secure borders.

We did NOT vote for abandoning our allies, breaking our treaties, becoming traitors to everything America once stood for and joining what our former leader, Ronald Reagan, a truly great statesman and American, called the "Axis of Evil. We did NOT vote for supporting Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine. We did NOT vote for destroying our infrastructure and all the good that our country does for it's citizens, so that a few billionaire oligarchs could become even wealthier billionaires. We did NOT vote for pollution, for outspoken racism and the return of Jim Crow. We did NOT vote for Project 2025, which Trump himself assured his supporters that he did not want.

We did not vote for this, because this is not what America stands for. This is not what America IS.
There are those on this forum who pretend to be Americans who will insist otherwise. I say "Pretend" to be Americans because I strongly suspect they are not, no matter how much they try to convince us. They also try to be deceptive by creating multiple aliases on the forum, so as to give the impression that their toxic world views reflect a larger percentage of Americans than they do.

Americans are not like this. We never were, and we still are not. We are better than this. This leader does NOT represent who we the people are or what we are about. Even most of those who voted for Trump, for whatever reasons, are not at all supportive of what he is doing to America and to the world, and even regret doing so.

So I will take this time to apologize, on behalf of all Americans, to the world. One day, I hope that America will truly be made great again, to be the beacon of liberty and freedom that it once was.

Signed,
An American.

As a Brit, I think we ought to thank President Trump and his sidekick, Vance. I can't remember a time when Europe has been so united, and for once, Nigel Farage is lost for words. As I'm sure you know, Vance's claim for the amount of aid given by the USA was inflated by 300%, and President Zalensky has thanked the American people many times for their support. We in Europe, who have already provided more aid than the USA, seem to be intending to increase that support.

It has also been a wake up call. European leaders are now doubting that the USA would honour its commitments under Article 5 of the North Atlantic treaty. (The bit that says an attack on one of us would be treated as an attack on all of us.) The US invoked Article 5 after 9/11, and Europeans went into Afganistan to fight against Al Qaeda. Having seen the willingness with which your current regime is willing to offer up a European Country to Russia, European leaders now doubt that the USA would assist Europe should President Putin decide that Finland was rightfully part of Russia. You might ask why we should be grateful for that. Well, the uncertainty is likely to strengthen the EU that President Trump hates so much. A European army is becoming a real possibility, and that can only be a good thing.

 

[Lazaran]

I just want to say, as an American, Patriot, lover of my country and of peace freedom and justice,

As a Brit, I think we ought to thank President Trump and his sidekick, Vance. I can't remember a time when Europe has been so united, and for once, Nigel Farage is lost for words. As I'm sure you know, Vance's claim for the amount of aid given by the USA was inflated by 300%, and President Zalensky has thanked the American people many times for their support. We in Europe, who have already provided more aid than the USA, seem to be intending to increase that support.

It has also been a wake up call. European leaders are now doubting that the USA would honour its commitments under Article 5 of the North Atlantic treaty. (The bit that says an attack on one of us would be treated as an attack on all of us.) The US invoked Article 5 after 9/11, and Europeans went into Afganistan to fight against Al Qaeda. Having seen the willingness with which your current regime is willing to offer up a European Country to Russia, European leaders now doubt that the USA would assist Europe should President Putin decide that Finland was rightfully part of Russia. You might ask why we should be grateful for that. Well, the uncertainty is likely to strengthen the EU that President Trump hates so much. A European army is becoming a real possibility, and that can only be a good thing.

Yeah, we’re embarrassed as Americans, but also concerned - as free Europe should be.

I think we can all agree that a HEALTHY alliance between the U.S. & a stronger Europe, etc, and a coordinated response to Russian and Chinese (etc) aggression would be optimal.

That ^ is what we were getting from Democratic Party control of the White House and foreign policy.

What is happening now is…suboptimal…to say the least…



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

As a Brit, I think we ought to thank President Trump and his sidekick, Vance. I can't remember a time when Europe has been so united, and for once, Nigel Farage is lost for words. As I'm sure you know, Vance's claim for the amount of aid given by the USA was inflated by 300%, and President Zalensky has thanked the American people many times for their support. We in Europe, who have already provided more aid than the USA, seem to be intending to increase that support.

It has also been a wake up call. European leaders are now doubting that the USA would honour its commitments under Article 5 of the North Atlantic treaty. (The bit that says an attack on one of us would be treated as an attack on all of us.) The US invoked Article 5 after 9/11, and Europeans went into Afganistan to fight against Al Qaeda. Having seen the willingness with which your current regime is willing to offer up a European Country to Russia, European leaders now doubt that the USA would assist Europe should President Putin decide that Finland was rightfully part of Russia. You might ask why we should be grateful for that. Well, the uncertainty is likely to strengthen the EU that President Trump hates so much. A European army is becoming a real possibility, and that can only be a good thing.

Very well put. With Trump pulling back, it seems the other members and the rest of the world will have to adjust. It will not be cheap,but, at the end, the western world will never again have to worry about a madman in the White House in the us. Trump will soon learn that what comes with isolationism and protectionism, is not acceptance and capitulation, but rejection and abandonment.

Fuck the us....

 

[jomar]

I just want to say, as an American, Patriot, lover of my country and of peace freedom and justice,

I am appalled and saddened by what is happening in my country.

This post is mainly for the Non-Americans out there on this forum. The Brits, Australians, Canadians, and others. Just so you know, most Americans do NOT support the actions of our government, both in our country and especially in terms of foreign policy. It is true, many of us did vote for Trump, and we did so under the belief, however naive, that he would reverse the economic trends of inflation that were hurting our pocketbooks, and deliver safety in the form of secure borders.

We did NOT vote for abandoning our allies, breaking our treaties, becoming traitors to everything America once stood for and joining what our former leader, Ronald Reagan, a truly great statesman and American, called the "Axis of Evil. We did NOT vote for supporting Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine. We did NOT vote for destroying our infrastructure and all the good that our country does for it's citizens, so that a few billionaire oligarchs could become even wealthier billionaires. We did NOT vote for pollution, for outspoken racism and the return of Jim Crow. We did NOT vote for Project 2025, which Trump himself assured his supporters that he did not want.

We did not vote for this, because this is not what America stands for. This is not what America IS.
There are those on this forum who pretend to be Americans who will insist otherwise. I say "Pretend" to be Americans because I strongly suspect they are not, no matter how much they try to convince us. They also try to be deceptive by creating multiple aliases on the forum, so as to give the impression that their toxic world views reflect a larger percentage of Americans than they do.

Americans are not like this. We never were, and we still are not. We are better than this. This leader does NOT represent who we the people are or what we are about. Even most of those who voted for Trump, for whatever reasons, are not at all supportive of what he is doing to America and to the world, and even regret doing so.

So I will take this time to apologize, on behalf of all Americans, to the world. One day, I hope that America will truly be made great again, to be the beacon of liberty and freedom that it once was.

Signed,
An American.

Nice sentiment, but we did vote him in, not a majority but enough to win. And we knew who he is. He told us what he’d do. We know he’s a liar so we knew his denial of project 2025 was bullshit. We knew he was pro Russia and Putin and all of the other stuff. So, we’re getting what we asked for.

With the voting in of trump 2.0 we are now clearly a nation in decline.

Nope, I think he's right in that there is a tremendous amount of waste and corruption permeating the Federal bureaucracy. USAID has been just the first and most blatant example, and the most effective way to deal with it is just to shut everything down and burn it downwhen it's as bad as it is now. Musk demonstrated how to do it with Twitter. Fire all the lefties in govt and force them to find real work. Don't bother prosecuting anyone except the most egregerious of criminality - that by itself will be enough to keep the FBI (whats left of it) busy for years. After they have to do real work, the lefties will be too busy to think about politics except in passing, just like the rest of us.

You slice to the bone, and then you fix it when you've cut to far. My only real concern is that people like Rubio won't cut hard enough. The State Dept needs to be decimated. The FBI needs to be culled, decapitated, and rebuilt. Whole Govt depts needs to be closed down, the buildings sold or pulled down and the sysrems wiped to make it impossible to rebuild. Education - delete. ATF - delete. FBI - gut. Military - fire all the political hires and the useless drones. There's a raft of others. Slice the Feds by 80-90%, hand responsibility for everything possible back to the States. Reduce taxes, reduce Fed govt regulations and intrusion. Stop all the social engineering in its trracks.

This is where I call you rude names and blow raspberries in your general direction!

 

[ChloeTzang]

This is where I call you rude names and blow raspberries in your general direction!

This is where I say "you're welcome," and wonder just WTF Trump is thinking he's doing.