Trump Needs To Prosecute This Fat Bastard

[Rightguide]

I want to see the exact wording of the General's pardon.

 

[ll74]

I want to see the exact wording of the General's pardon.

So look it up, dipshit

 

[Politruk]

Shut up you ignorant dunce.

You are Danny DeVito calling Arnold Schwarzenegger a runt.

 

[jhenry922]

General Milley Ignored Trump Order to Deploy Nat. Guard at US Capitol Prior to Jan. 6 – Then After J6 Riots, He Reportedly Placed Military Under His Control While He Was Holding Secret Calls the Chinese​

by Jim Hoft Sep. 22, 2024 8:00 am

Shocking new details were released by Republicans on the House Oversight Committee on Friday of US military brass ignoring President Trump’s request for security on January 6th.

President Trump knew there would be a massive crowd of Americans at the planned rallies outside the US Capitol and at the Ellipse that day. So, Trump ordered the National Guard to be deployed to the US Capitol prior to the planned protests on January 6.

The newly surfaced transcripts, which were previously concealed, reveal the truth that many in the mainstream media have ignored.

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/general-milley-ignored-trump-order-deploy-nat-guard/

He needs to do some prison time.

The problem with doing things is you suggest basically means that he can weaponize the justice system against anyone he has a slight against, and sooner or later that's going to include you.

 

[HisArpy]

I want to see the exact wording of the General's pardon.

I believe the pardon can only be for crimes.

Conduct unbecoming isn't a "crime" per se. Recall him, courts martial him, and strip him of his rank and pension.

He can appeal based on his pardon and let the courts sort it out.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I believe the pardon can only be for crimes.

Conduct unbecoming isn't a "crime" per se. Recall him, courts martial him, and strip him of his rank and pension.

He can appeal based on his pardon and let the courts sort it out.

and what, "military law" did he break?

 

[HisArpy]

and what, "military law" did he break?

"Conduct Unbecoming"

UCMJ Art 133.

United States v. Voorhees, 79 M.J. 5, (2018) (Article 133, UCMJ, contains two elements: that the accused did or omitted to do certain acts; and that, under the circumstances, these acts or omissions constituted conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman; conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman means behavior in an official capacity which, in dishonoring or disgracing the individual as a commissioned officer, seriously detracts from his character as a gentleman, or behavior in an unofficial or private capacity which, in dishonoring or disgracing the individual personally, seriously detracts from his standing as a commissioned officer; unbecoming conduct means misbehavior more serious than slight, and of a material and pronounced character; it means conduct morally unfitting and unworthy rather than merely inappropriate or unsuitable misbehavior which is more than opposed to good taste or propriety).

Note that the underlying offense(s) are not being tried or in question. What is in question is the CONDUCT of the officer. An offense for which the pardon isn't protection against.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

"Conduct Unbecoming"

UCMJ Art 133.



Note that the underlying offense(s) are not being tried or in question. What is in question is the CONDUCT of the officer. An offense for which the pardon isn't protection against.

lol....good luck. I fail to to see where he didn't conduct himself dishonourably with his actions. Let me guess, you never served, right?

Just some more of your anger aimed at those better than you. *chuckles*

 

[HisArpy]

lol....good luck. I fail to to see where he didn't conduct himself dishonourably with his actions. Let me guess, you never served, right?

Just some more of your anger aimed at those better than you. *chuckles*

Refusing to obey an order.
Clandestinely communicating with foreign military adversaries that he wouldn't obey an order.

And that's just 2 of the KNOWN things he did. That you either aren't aware of them, or are intentionally and disingenuously omitting them, only shows you have no clue what you're talking about and are deflecting like mad to avoid having that failing come to light.

 

[Rightguide]

I believe the pardon can only be for crimes.

Conduct unbecoming isn't a "crime" per se. Recall him, courts martial him, and strip him of his rank and pension.

He can appeal based on his pardon and let the courts sort it out.

Yes true, but refused a direct order and acted against the orders of the CinC, which is mutinous at least.

 

[HisArpy]

Yes true, but refused a direct order and acted against the orders of the CinC, which is mutinous at least.

He has a pardon for those because those are crimes.

Conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman isn't a "crime" per se. It's a matter of an unsavory character which demeans and degrades the military service.

Which is why the punishment is demotion and dishonorable discharge with forfeiture of all benefits.

 

[Rightguide]

He has a pardon for those because those are crimes.

Conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman isn't a "crime" per se. It's a matter of an unsavory character which demeans and degrades the military service.

Which is why the punishment is demotion and dishonorable discharge with forfeiture of all benefits.

Yes but all of the attached can be Conduct unbecoming and many are felonies, no?

Examples Conduct Unbecoming an Officer Article 133 UCMJ​

Article 133 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) addresses conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, encompassing a wide range of actions that can bring dishonor or discredit upon the armed forces. Below is a list of 40 possible offenses that could be charged as a violation of Conduct Unbecoming an Officer Article 133 UCMJ:

1. Lying: Deliberately providing false information.
2. Fraud: Engaging in deceitful practices for personal gain.
3. Theft: Stealing property or funds.
4. Embezzlement: Misappropriating funds entrusted to one’s care.
5. Bribery: Offering or accepting something of value to influence actions.
6. Perjury: Lying under oath.
7. Adultery: Engaging in extramarital sexual relations.
8. Sexual Harassment: Unwanted sexual advances or conduct.
9. Drunkenness: Public intoxication or being drunk on duty.
10. Drug Abuse: Illegal use of controlled substances.
11. Gambling: Participating in unauthorized gambling activities.
12. Insubordination: Defying orders from superiors.
13. Assault: Physically attacking another person.
14. Battery: Unlawful physical contact with another person.
15. Domestic Violence: Abusing a spouse or family member.
16. Hazing: Subjecting others to abusive or humiliating rituals.
17. Fraternization: Inappropriate relationships with subordinates.
18. Discrimination: Unfair treatment based on race, gender, or other factors.
19. Dereliction of Duty: Failing to perform assigned duties.
20. Abuse of Authority: Misusing one’s position for personal gain or to harm others.
21. Misuse of Government Property: Using government assets for personal purposes.
22. Indecent Exposure: Exposing oneself inappropriately.
23. Indecent Conduct: Engaging in behavior that is morally inappropriate.
24. Obstruction of Justice: Interfering with legal proceedings.
25. Tampering with Evidence: Altering or destroying evidence.
26. Blackmail: Extorting money or favors through threats.
27. Extortion: Obtaining something through coercion.
28. Espionage: Spying or leaking confidential information.
29. Treason: Betraying one’s country.
30. Abandonment of Post: Leaving one’s assigned position without permission.
31. Disrespect to Superiors: Showing contempt or lack of respect.
32. Conduct Prejudicial to Good Order: Behaving in a manner that disrupts order.
33. Impersonating an Officer: Pretending to be an officer when not.
34. False Claims: Submitting fraudulent claims for benefits or reimbursements.
35. Failure to Pay Debts: Not settling financial obligations.
36. Cheating: Dishonestly gaining an advantage.
37. Plagiarism: Using someone else’s work without credit.
38. Unprofessional Relationships: Relationships that compromise integrity or mission.
39. Abandoning Subordinates: Leaving subordinates without support or guidance.
40. Engaging in Criminal Activities: Participating in illegal activities outside the military.

These offenses undermine the integrity and honor expected of military officers, reflecting poorly on the individual and the military institution. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer Article 133 UCMJ upholds the high standards of conduct required of officers by addressing a wide spectrum of dishonorable behaviors.

 

[HisArpy]

Yes but all of the attached can be Conduct unbecoming and many are felonies, no?

Examples Conduct Unbecoming an Officer Article 133 UCMJ​

Article 133 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) addresses conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, encompassing a wide range of actions that can bring dishonor or discredit upon the armed forces. Below is a list of 40 possible offenses that could be charged as a violation of Conduct Unbecoming an Officer Article 133 UCMJ:

1. Lying: Deliberately providing false information.
2. Fraud: Engaging in deceitful practices for personal gain.
3. Theft: Stealing property or funds.
4. Embezzlement: Misappropriating funds entrusted to one’s care.
5. Bribery: Offering or accepting something of value to influence actions.
6. Perjury: Lying under oath.
7. Adultery: Engaging in extramarital sexual relations.
8. Sexual Harassment: Unwanted sexual advances or conduct.
9. Drunkenness: Public intoxication or being drunk on duty.
10. Drug Abuse: Illegal use of controlled substances.
11. Gambling: Participating in unauthorized gambling activities.
12. Insubordination: Defying orders from superiors.
13. Assault: Physically attacking another person.
14. Battery: Unlawful physical contact with another person.
15. Domestic Violence: Abusing a spouse or family member.
16. Hazing: Subjecting others to abusive or humiliating rituals.
17. Fraternization: Inappropriate relationships with subordinates.
18. Discrimination: Unfair treatment based on race, gender, or other factors.
19. Dereliction of Duty: Failing to perform assigned duties.
20. Abuse of Authority: Misusing one’s position for personal gain or to harm others.
21. Misuse of Government Property: Using government assets for personal purposes.
22. Indecent Exposure: Exposing oneself inappropriately.
23. Indecent Conduct: Engaging in behavior that is morally inappropriate.
24. Obstruction of Justice: Interfering with legal proceedings.
25. Tampering with Evidence: Altering or destroying evidence.
26. Blackmail: Extorting money or favors through threats.
27. Extortion: Obtaining something through coercion.
28. Espionage: Spying or leaking confidential information.
29. Treason: Betraying one’s country.
30. Abandonment of Post: Leaving one’s assigned position without permission.
31. Disrespect to Superiors: Showing contempt or lack of respect.
32. Conduct Prejudicial to Good Order: Behaving in a manner that disrupts order.
33. Impersonating an Officer: Pretending to be an officer when not.
34. False Claims: Submitting fraudulent claims for benefits or reimbursements.
35. Failure to Pay Debts: Not settling financial obligations.
36. Cheating: Dishonestly gaining an advantage.
37. Plagiarism: Using someone else’s work without credit.
38. Unprofessional Relationships: Relationships that compromise integrity or mission.
39. Abandoning Subordinates: Leaving subordinates without support or guidance.
40. Engaging in Criminal Activities: Participating in illegal activities outside the military.

These offenses undermine the integrity and honor expected of military officers, reflecting poorly on the individual and the military institution. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer Article 133 UCMJ upholds the high standards of conduct required of officers by addressing a wide spectrum of dishonorable behaviors.

The point is that he has a pardon for the underlying offense(s) so he cannot be punished for it/them.

An Art 133 courts martial does not judge the underlying offense(s) at all. It only questions the officer's conduct/acts in regards to them. Thus the pardon would be ineffective to prohibit prosecution under Art 133.

 

[Lazaran]

General Milley was / is a GREAT patriot whose only misstep was accompanying DonOlfd for that infamous photo op where DonOld criminally aggressed against lawful protest and held a Bible upside down.

Hope that ^ helps.



Rightard

 

[Rightguide]

The point is that he has a pardon for the underlying offense(s) so he cannot be punished for it/them.

An Art 133 courts martial does not judge the underlying offense(s) at all. It only questions the officer's conduct/acts in regards to them. Thus the pardon would be ineffective to prohibit prosecution under Art 133.

Well, they have already removed his portrait from the walls of the Pentagon, a first in history. Don't get me wrong, I want to see this man punished to the fullest extent of the law. Tom Fitton, who is not a lawyer, but runs Judicial Watch is advising Trump to ignore the pardons and commence a Courts-martial proceeding against Milley. They believe the pardons are illegal and were not issued by Joe Biden himself. Thus triggering a massive investigation and legal process to ferret out the truth.

 

[HisArpy]

Well, they have already removed his portrait from the walls of the Pentagon, a first in history. Don't get me wrong, I want to see this man punished to the fullest extent of the law. Tom Fitton, who is not a lawyer, but runs Judicial Watch is advising Trump to ignore the pardons and commence a Courts-martial proceeding against Milley. They believe the pardons are illegal and were not issued by Joe Biden himself. Thus triggering a massive investigation and legal process to ferret out the truth.

Fitton's only claim to fame is that he's chased the political stick like a good dog for years. His belief the pardons are illegal is worthless.

However, Milley should be recalled and a tribunal should be empaneled for an Art 133 offense regardless.

 

[Bn2f]

Fitton's only claim to fame is that he's chased the political stick like a good dog for years. His belief the pardons are illegal is worthless.

However, Milley should be recalled and a tribunal should be empaneled for an Art 133 offense regardless.

Haha!
Fuckin liar. Good luck with your expectations.

 

[Rightguide]

The first to go:

Trump Administration Removes Coast Guard Commandant​

https://www.theepochtimes.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.theepochtimes.com%2Fassets%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F05%2F10%2Fid5256205-Linda-Fagan-GettyImages-1241036181-700x420.jpg&w=1200&q=100

Adm. Linda Fagan arrives for the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) change of command ceremony at USCG Headquarters in Washington on June 1, 2022. Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

By Jack Phillips
1/21/2025Updated:1/21/2025


The U.S. Coast Guard’s commandant, Adm. Linda Fagan, has been removed from her duties and position by the acting head of the Department of Homeland Security, according to a memo sent out Tuesday.

Fagan assumed the duties in June 2022 under the Biden administration. President Donald Trump has named Adm. Kevin Lunday, the vice commandant, to become the Coast Guard’s commandant, and he must be confirmed by the Senate.

The message, released by Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Benjamine Huffman, said that he has relieved Fagan “of her duties as Commandant of the United States Coast Guard,” saying she “served a long and illustrious career, and I thank her for her service to our nation.”
For the interim period, Lunday will serve as the acting commandant of the Coast Guard “and assumes all the authority and responsibilities of the office,” Huffman wrote in the memo.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/tr...m_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Refusing to obey an order.
Clandestinely communicating with foreign military adversaries that he wouldn't obey an order.

And that's just 2 of the KNOWN things he did. That you either aren't aware of them, or are intentionally and disingenuously omitting them, only shows you have no clue what you're talking about and are deflecting like mad to avoid having that failing come to light.

lol, you made the claim, you deliver the proof....touched any batteries lately? I've heard if you use carbon based water to top off the cells the battery will hold a better charge.

 

[ll74]

The fucking grievancePorn never ends

 

[Rightguide]

I think Trump needs to take a look at the Commandant of The Marine Corps as well. He lied to the American people:

If the Coast Guard Commandant Can Be Fired for Pushing DEI, Can the USMC Commandant Be Fired for Lying?​

By streiff | 9:08 PM on January 21, 2025

https://redstate.com/streiff/2025/0...e-usmc-commandant-be-fired-for-lying-n2184646

 

[Politruk]

"Conduct Unbecoming"

No such thing -- see post #23.

 

[Politruk]

I think Trump needs to take a look at the Commandant of The Marine Corps as well. He lied to the American people:

If the Coast Guard Commandant Can Be Fired for Pushing DEI, Can the USMC Commandant Be Fired for Lying?​

By streiff | 9:08 PM on January 21, 2025

https://redstate.com/streiff/2025/0...e-usmc-commandant-be-fired-for-lying-n2184646

You think redstate is any better than GP?!

 

[Politruk]

The first to go:

Trump Administration Removes Coast Guard Commandant​

https://www.theepochtimes.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.theepochtimes.com%2Fassets%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F05%2F10%2Fid5256205-Linda-Fagan-GettyImages-1241036181-700x420.jpg&w=1200&q=100

Adm. Linda Fagan arrives for the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) change of command ceremony at USCG Headquarters in Washington on June 1, 2022. Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

By Jack Phillips
1/21/2025Updated:1/21/2025


The U.S. Coast Guard’s commandant, Adm. Linda Fagan, has been removed from her duties and position by the acting head of the Department of Homeland Security, according to a memo sent out Tuesday.

Fagan assumed the duties in June 2022 under the Biden administration. President Donald Trump has named Adm. Kevin Lunday, the vice commandant, to become the Coast Guard’s commandant, and he must be confirmed by the Senate.

The message, released by Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Benjamine Huffman, said that he has relieved Fagan “of her duties as Commandant of the United States Coast Guard,” saying she “served a long and illustrious career, and I thank her for her service to our nation.”
For the interim period, Lunday will serve as the acting commandant of the Coast Guard “and assumes all the authority and responsibilities of the office,” Huffman wrote in the memo.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/tr...m_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily

And Epoch Times has zero credibility!