Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense

[HisArpy]

"In God we trust" didn't appear on money until 100 after the founding fathers died.

How much more wrong could you possibly be?

So you're trying to tell us that the US wasn't founded on Christian principles because the words didn't appear for almost another 100 years?

Yeah, that totally misses the point. Which is that if the founders didn't have Christian values, then the phrase wouldn't have appeared at all.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm surprised to see a religious symbol in a religious cathedral. Since when did that come in?

And those famous Christians, Confucius and Solon. Wiki needs updating regarding their life stories. When did Moses become a Christian anyway?

It's the NATIONAL Cathedral, not your local cardboard box church.

BTW, Moses talked to God. That kind of makes him a Christian since other religions, for the most part, don't even acknowledge the existence of the Christian God.

Which makes one wonder; are you FUCKING STUPID or something?

 

[Rotadom]

So you're trying to tell us that the US wasn't founded on Christian principles because fiat currency didn't appear for almost another 100 years?

Yeah, that totally misses the point. Which is that if the founders didn't have Christian values, then the phrase wouldn't have appeared at all.

No, simpleton. YOU brought currency info the conversation. YOU brought the National Cathedral into the conversation.

Neither had to with the founding fathers and the shape of our nation.

You stuck your nose in and got it chopped off.

 

[HisArpy]

The moto 'In God We Trust' first appeared on paper currency in 1957.

That's in my lifetime.

First used on US coins in 1864.

I think President Biden was there when the first coin was struck. I positive Nancy Pelosi was.

 

[HisArpy]

National Cathedral was built over 200 years after the founding fathers died.

And?

 

[HisArpy]

No, simpleton. YOU brought currency info the conversation. YOU brought the National Cathedral into the conversation.

Neither had to with the founding fathers and the shape of our nation.

You stuck your nose in and got it chopped off.

List stupid, if the founders didn't have Christian values, NONE OF THAT would have been done.

But you go ahead and deny reality. It's been working out wonderfully for Conservatives for 200+ years now.

 

[Rotadom]

List stupid, if the founders didn't have Christian values

No, you "list" stupid.



Poor baby.

 

[Rotadom]

if the founders didn't have Christian values

I never said they didn't, . I said they didn't found the country based on them.

Are you out of your meds again?

 

[Bray123]

First used on US coins in 1864.

I think President Biden was there when the first coin was struck. I positive Nancy Pelosi was.

And the Constitution was written in 1787, ratified 1788.

 

[HisArpy]

And the Constitution was written in 1787, ratified 1788.

What does this have to do with whether the founders had Christian values or not?

 

[HisArpy]

I never said they didn't, . I said they didn't found the country based on them.

Are you out of your meds again?

They founded the nation based on laws and principles they deemed necessary for a peaceful society.

Guess where they found the inspiration for those laws and principles.

 

[Rotadom]

They founded the nation based on laws and principles they deemed necessary for a peaceful society.

Yes, the Bible is nothing if not a guide to create a peaceful society. Have you not read the Bible?

Guess where they found the inspiration for those laws and principles.

The Greeks.

 

[Bray123]

What does this have to do with whether the founders had Christian values or not?

You quoted some random date as if it were significant, not me.

The founders did have similar values to members of just about any organized superstition; slavery, profit from other people's labors, etc. At least they had the decency to spell out to the idiots that superstition should have no place in government.

 

[HisArpy]

You quoted some random date as if it were significant, not me.

The founders did have similar values to members of just about any organized superstition; slavery, profit from other people's labors, etc. At least they had the decency to spell out to the idiots that superstition should have no place in government.

No I didn't. I gave EXAMPLES of the Christian values the founders believed in.

Jeebus you're a simpleton.

 

[Bray123]

Yes, the Bible is nothing if not a guide to create a peaceful society. Have you not read the Bible?


The Greeks.

Such as Solon?

 

[Rotadom]

No I didn't. I gave EXAMPLES of the Christian values the founders believed in.

Jeebus you're a simpleton.

Which has nothing to do with the conversation you chose to join.

 

[Rotadom]

Such as Solon?

Confucius say, "Listen to Solon, you can read about him in the Christian Bible I wrote."

 

[HisArpy]

Yes, the Bible is nothing if not a guide to create a peaceful society. Have you not read the Bible?

Yes. Undeniably, it's filled with all kinds of violent stuff.

You think any of that might have shaped the thinking of people who don't want to live like that? Which is why they had to flee Britain?

The Greeks.

And the Romans, European Kings, poets, and playwrights too.

All of that shaped their thinking on what was needed for a just and fair society. And do you know where most of the principles for that just and fair society are written?

The Bible.

 

[HisArpy]

I never said they didn't, . I said they didn't found the country based on them.

Are you out of your meds again?

So the things you espouse, like abortion for just an example, don't come from the values you hold personally? You don't wish a government based on those values?

I think you're not just stupid, but you've painted yourself into a corner of insipidness.

 

[HisArpy]

Which has nothing to do with the conversation you chose to join.

WT ACTUAL F???

How do examples of Christian values not have EVERYTHING to do with the conversation on whether the founders had them and used them as a model when they created the nation?

 

[Rotadom]

So the things you espouse, like abortion for just an example, don't come from the values you hold personally? You don't wish a government based on those values?

I think you're not just stupid, but you've painted yourself into a corner of insipidness.

Abortion isn't mentioned in the Bible, ,.

Why do you hate yourself?

 

[HisArpy]

No, you "list" stupid.



Poor baby.

Oh look, you catched me in a tupo.

You're such an asshole if you think that changes anything.

 

[Rotadom]

Oh look, you catched me in a tupo.

You're such an asshole if you think that changes anything.

Calling me stupid in the middle of a monumental fuck up is hilarious

 

[Rotadom]

WT ACTUAL F???

How do examples of Christian values not have EVERYTHING to do with the conversation on whether the founders had them and used them as a model when they created the nation?

I guess we're all Greek too then.

Just shut up.

 

[HisArpy]

I guess we're all Greek too then.

Just shut up.

Is that an admission that you've realized how fucked up you are? Because it "sounds Greek to [you]?"

Or are you disparaging people because of their national origin?