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We have four years to figure it out.There is this right-wing nationalist-populist current in American politics. It manifested in the 1990s with Ross Perot and the Reform Party. (Arguably earlier, in the 1960s, with George Wallace and the American Independent Party.) In the Obama years it re-emerged as the Tea Party. And then Trump placed himself at its head. That’s why you don’t hear anything about the Tea Party any more – it IS the Trump movement.
This current differs from mainstream pro-corporate Republican politics in its economic nationalism and protectionism. It is the kind of thinking that sees the “productive” classes in society, the middle class and the working class (the two classes are not distinguished in this kind of thinking) as being under threat both from the poor/nonwhite below and from the rich/corporations above – see producerism. See also paleoconservatism.
N.B: These are paleocons, not neocons – that is, not foreign-policy warhawks. After all, the military-industrial complex is biggummint, federal and expensive. They generally opposed the Iraq War. Pat Buchanan is a typical specimen of this kind – he wrote a book defending the American isolationist position in WWII. One thing Trump has always told the truth about is his lack of interest in foreign military adventures. So he fits in well here.
Trump is 78 years old. No matter how this election goes, he can’t last much longer. And when he goes, the MOVEMENT will still be there – waiting for somebody else to lead it.
What happens then?
Their trucks are decent.I gave up on Ford years ago, back when they brought out that abomination called the Mustang II.
Trump won't last that long!We have four years to figure it out.
He'll never be president.After?
The rise of Donny Junior of course!!
Remember the last time you said that about a Trump.....and the time before that.He'll never be president.
Not even you take Don Jr. seriously.Remember the last time you said that about a Trump.....and the time before that.![]()
They might lose faith in him, but the RW populist-nationalist movement is bound to survive in some form or other.A lot will depend on how badly Trump's economic policies harm the poorly educated people Trump pretends to love. His policies will need to hurt them very much. They dropped out of high school for a reason.
Vance can't be trusted near a couch.Vance puts a couch on a bulldozer so his team can ride while he clears a path through Dem rubble.
Poor people are already poor.A lot will depend on how badly Trump's economic policies harm the poorly educated people Trump pretends to love. His policies will need to hurt them very much. They dropped out of high school for a reason.
Things can always get worse for them.Poor people are already poor.![]()
Get more poor?Things can always get worse for them.
They can go from working poor to unemployed and homeless. And a lot of them will, if Trump keeps his campaign promises. There's no way 25% tariffs and mass deportations wouldn't cause a major recession.Get more poor?![]()
Yea, people who DON'T hate the USA are bound to exist in the USA.They might lose faith in him, but the RW populist-nationalist movement is bound to survive in some form or other.
True, but we've seen time and again, without Trump on the ballot, a lot of them don't vote. No one else has the blend of cluelessness and absolute shamelessness that turns them on so much.They might lose faith in him, but the RW populist-nationalist movement is bound to survive in some form or other.
They don't love the USA. See post #40.Yea, people who DON'T hate the USA are bound to exist in the USA.
They do....that's what you hate about them.They don't love the USA.
There's no way Trump's campaign promises won't ruin us if he keeps them. Therefore, anyone who heard those and still voted for him does not love the USA.They do....that's what you hate about them.
You consider it derogatory. Which as a USA hater makes sense.
Clinton never had the cult following Reagan had and Trump has.Like Bill Clinton. *nods*![]()
Is there no way to get Vance and Musk and DeSantis in there too?A gladiator battle to death between these two combatants. Thunderdome rules. Two men enter, one man leaves.
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What'll happen is JD Vance will get the nomination and run, and Trump will stump for him. Assuming Trump's policies (and don't forget, this time round it's a VERY capable team and not just Trump with a bunch of RINO hacks the OLD GOP establishment (who are now gone or going) foisted on him) lead to an American Renaissance, Vance will win and he'll have 4 years as VP under his belt by then. Unlike Biden / Harris, Vance will be a working VP - we are already seeing that - and he will cement his position as the heir.True, but we've seen time and again, without Trump on the ballot, a lot of them don't vote. No one else has the blend of cluelessness and absolute shamelessness that turns them on so much.
Your opinion.Clinton never had the cult following Reagan had and Trump has.