Why calling everybody who disagrees with you a "racist" cheapens that charge!

[BotanyBoy]

One need only look at the prison populations in America to know there is in actual fact white privilege.

Disparity =/= privilege.

Roll out all the dictionary definitions you want, prepare all the word salads you want. I was busted for pot possession many many years ago and got a suspended sentence, probation, then my record was wiped clean. Few, if any, brown people can make that same claim.

That's a lot of foot stamping and assumption.

Reality check, most people regardless of color who get busted for possession and even low level dealing get dropped charges and reduced sentences all the time, if they cooperate

That there my friend is white privilege.

It might have been a racist judge....but that's a different thing, not a special right or immunity that white people get for being white.

I'm sorry but it is definitively not a white privilege.

Jim Crow was the last of white privilege, unless you can point out any special rights or immunities white people get for being white that is.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Modern liberal progressives believe that supporting the United States is racist.

Progressives are absolutely not liberal....haven't been for some time now.

 

[Adre]

Disparity =/= privilege.



That's a lot of foot stamping and assumption.



It might have been a racist judge....but that's a different thing, not a special right or immunity that white people get for being white.

I'm sorry but it is definitively not a white privilege.

It was for me. And you don’t walk through this world as a white man so you will never experience it. I’ll advise you to visit a few prisons, it’s not a solitary racist judge, it’s a national system.

 

[Dumpington]

BotanyBoy writes: "Progressives are absolutely not liberal....haven't been for some time now."

You are correct. Liberals CALL themselves "progressives" when the exact opposite is true.

I could say the same thing about ANTIFA, which supposedly stands for "Anti-Fascist," when in reality that are a Neo-Fascist Hate Group that orchestrates violent attacks upon those with whom they disagree politically! Antifa's founder was Benito Mussolini, from one-hundred years ago in Italy!

Adre writes: "And you don’t walk through this world as a white man so you will never experience it."

You are advocating REVERSE-RACISM to fix the problem of racism - good luck with that! Liberal Democrats who hate America might buy into that silliness, but that's also how President Trump got elected - as the majority of Americans (black, brown & white) do NOT hate this country!

Black & brown-skinned people from all over the planet want to live in the United States - HOW do liberals explain that? If the Democratic Party truly believed the nonsense that they spew, black people would be trying to escape the U.S. and move to socialist nations in Africa, while hispanic peoples would be rushing south of the border to escape racist America and its white privilege! But no, instead millions or people worldwide desire to live in Trump's America - WHY do you suppose that is?

 

[BotanyBoy]

It was for me.

If it's for you then it's not white.

Back to not all racism being white privilege.

And you don’t walk through this world as a white man so you will never experience it.

Discrimination? Sure I've seen it happen, I've been discriminated against.

But I understand that discrimination by individuals =/= racial privilege.

I’ll advise you to visit a few prisons, it’s not a solitary racist judge, it’s a national system.

Much like correlation=/= causation, disparity =/= discrimination....much less a racial privilege.

Having a long history on both sides of the law I think the reason there is a disproportionate number of black people in prison is that they make it fucking easy for the cops to get them.

Because 2 O's of meth or heroine all bagged up for distribution will get a white boy a couple decades in the slammer just as fast and does more often than it will a black person.

But guess who keeps a low profile more often?

Guess who goes out and looks that baller part screaming "fuck you!!" at cops with 2 O's all bagged up for distribution on their person more often??

 

[BotanyBoy]

BotanyBoy writes: "Progressives are absolutely not liberal....haven't been for some time now."

You are correct. Liberals CALL themselves "progressives" when the exact opposite is true.

Close you have it backwards, it's the progressives calling themselves liberals when the opposite is true.

Liberalism is a political belief that individual liberty is or should be the central concern of politics.

The founding fathers of the USA? Liberals.

"progressives" are authoritarian and or collectivist lefties who don't give 2 shits about individual liberty.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

people are still arguing over something not yet clearly defined

 

[Shelly2inme]

Real Racism VS fake news racism

Affirmative action is racist. Any decision that gives someone a boast or holds someone back based on race is racism. But disagreeing with someone of a different race is not racism. By playing the race card all the time wimpy politicians cave in and go running. But standing up for reality is what will squash all this fake news racism. Most people really don't care what color skin anyone has. Blaming everything on race gives people an excuse for bad behavior in their own life or in their own culture. I don't care what color you are. If you are a quality person I will respect you and if you are an asshole I will reject you.

 

[Adre]

If it's for you then it's not white.

Back to not all racism being white privilege.



Discrimination? Sure I've seen it happen, I've been discriminated against.

But I understand that discrimination by individuals =/= racial privilege.



Much like correlation=/= causation, disparity =/= discrimination....much less a racial privilege.

Having a long history on both sides of the law I think the reason there is a disproportionate number of black people in prison is that they make it fucking easy for the cops to get them.

Because 2 O's of meth or heroine all bagged up for distribution will get a white boy a couple decades in the slammer just as fast and does more often than it will a black person.

But guess who keeps a low profile more often?

Guess who goes out and looks that baller part screaming "fuck you!!" at cops with 2 O's all bagged up for distribution on their person more often??

Very short on facts here. Obviously you’re welcome to think any old thoughts you want, but you’re hypothetical white boy is going to be privileged with much better legal representation and likely a more sympathetic judge. That’s proven time and again.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Very short on facts here. Obviously you’re welcome to think any old thoughts you want,

Maybe, but it is an observable reality.

How many Asians get locked up? A disproportionately low amount.

Do you think that's because Asian people don't engage in crime? We all know that's not the case.

Cops are for some reason never racist against Asian folks? That's buu shit too.

Or maybe it's because Asian gangsters don't engage in the kind of behaviors that draw police attention???

Jews....some of the most successful, richest, scariest make you vanish into a barrel of acid type gangsters I've ever met were Jews.

Super under-represented in prison populations.

You think that's because there is no anti-semitism?? LOL

Or maybe it's because that billionaire Jew gangster drives a minivan, lives in upper middle class neighborhood, wears JC Penny and spends all his time keeping his books square instead of throwing money around and giving the cops the finger???

I'm just saying....despite their being racist out there, at the end of the day behavior matters a lot more than skin color.

but you’re hypothetical white boy is going to be privileged with much better legal representation and likely a more sympathetic judge. That’s proven time and again.

Maybe, maybe not, some judges are certainly racist, but I'd think most these days are not....thus all the white boys in prison for drugs.

As for the representation, that is economic or class privilege.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Affirmative action is racist. Any decision that gives someone a boast or holds someone back based on race is racism. But disagreeing with someone of a different race is not racism. By playing the race card all the time wimpy politicians cave in and go running. But standing up for reality is what will squash all this fake news racism. Most people really don't care what color skin anyone has. Blaming everything on race gives people an excuse for bad behavior in their own life or in their own culture. I don't care what color you are. If you are a quality person I will respect you and if you are an asshole I will reject you.

"That's just like your opinion, man"

 

[Dumpington]

BotanyBoy writes: "'progressives' are authoritarian and or collectivist lefties who don't give 2 shits about individual liberty."

I stand corrected - that's all very true!

Shelly2inme writes: "By playing the race card all the time wimpy politicians cave in and go running. But standing up for reality is what will squash all this fake news racism. Most people really don't care what color skin anyone has. Blaming everything on race gives people an excuse for bad behavior in their own life or in their own culture. I don't care what color you are. If you are a quality person I will respect you and if you are an asshole I will reject you."

I can't disagree with ANY of that!

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says that the left is desperate to turn any traditional patriotic appeal into an act of racism. Progressives are desperate to smear Republicans and moderate Democrats alike as racists. Part of this desperation is their inability to debate the facts and their hope that insults can shame their opponents into silence.

An even GREATER part of this desperation is in the left’s growing realization that President Trump and the Republicans are beginning to attract minority support in a serious way. The 2018 midterms were a watershed moment in the shift of minority voters towards the G.O.P.

For example, the left-wing African-American female candidate for governor in Georgia alienated enough black males with her radicalized platforms that gave the Republican candidate a significant percentage of African-American male support.

In Florida, a left-wing African-American candidate for governor lost almost one out of five black female votes because of his opposition to school choice.

In Michigan, a charismatic Republican African-American veteran and businessman, John James, received more votes for the Senate in Michigan than any Republican since the year 2000. James is running again, and if he wins, the historic monopoly that the left has on the African-American vote will collapse.

All around the country, President Trump is attracting Latinos to his rallies in record numbers. There is strong support in the Latino community for job creation, income growth, small business prosperity, and enforcing the law.

The left’s reaction to all of this has been hysteria

Screaming “racist” – which the left-wing propaganda machine did relentlessly this week – is their most common effort to shut up conservatives in general and President Trump in particular. Defending the American flag is racist in this left-wing world. Defending George Washington and Thomas Jefferson is racist. Again and again, the left seeks to shame today’s patriots into silence.

The REAL RACISTS are on the left. Consider Massachusetts Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley saying: “We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice. We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice. We don’t need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice. We don’t need queers that don’t want to be a queer voice.” Consider both the racism and the fascist arrogance in that statement.

First, Pressley asserts the right to define the authenticity of voices.

Second, she defines each voice by skin color, religion, or sexual orientation rather than the content of their character.

Third, she dismisses or dehumanizes everyone who fails to meet her standard.

Consider her arrogance just in regard to the African-American community. By her standard, former Secretary of State Colin Powell isn't authentically black. Neither is former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Sen. Tim Scott of South Caroline, or Republican senatorial candidate John James of Michigan.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Here is what some people call "racism."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miss-michigan-stripped-of-title-after-racist-tweets-surface/

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Here is what some people call "racism."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miss-michigan-stripped-of-title-after-racist-tweets-surface/

That's not helpful to any discussion about racism when it's not clearly defined. It makes no sense to have any debate/ discussion/ argument on a topic that is not clearly defined. I've read countless threads on Lit over many years on the topic and the only thing that's clear is that people have a different opinion as to what constitutes racism.

 

[phrodeau]

Here is what some people call "racism."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miss-michigan-stripped-of-title-after-racist-tweets-surface/

That would never happen in Trump’s beauty pageants.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101 View Post
Here is what some people call "racism."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miss-mi...weets-surface/

That's not helpful to any discussion about racism when it's not clearly defined. It makes no sense to have any debate/ discussion/ argument on a topic that is not clearly defined. I've read countless threads on Lit over many years on the topic and the only thing that's clear is that people have a different opinion as to what constitutes racism.

How many people think it is racist or represents bigotry to refuse to try on a garment that is fundamental to a religion other than a person's own faith? How many people think it is racist to express disagreement with somebody by citing government statistics?

 

[Adre]

“Another way of considering racial and ethnic differences in the nation’s prison population is by looking at the imprisonment rate, which tallies the number of prisoners per 100,000 people. In 2017, there were 1,549 black prisoners for every 100,000 black adults – nearly six times the imprisonment rate for whites (272 per 100,000) and nearly double the rate for Hispanics (823 per 100,000).”

Pew Research


You can’t explain this away with your “blacks are all in your face in the streets.” Six times the imprisonment rate!

 

[Team420]

White man bad

lol your story proves you hate white people.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101 View Post
Here is what some people call "racism."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miss-mi...weets-surface/



How many people think it is racist or represents bigotry to refuse to try on a garment that is fundamental to a religion other than a person's own faith? How many people think it is racist to express disagreement with somebody by citing government statistics?

Am I correct in assuming that it is your opinion that there are degrees of racism?

 

[Boxlicker101]

“Another way of considering racial and ethnic differences in the nation’s prison population is by looking at the imprisonment rate, which tallies the number of prisoners per 100,000 people. In 2017, there were 1,549 black prisoners for every 100,000 black adults – nearly six times the imprisonment rate for whites (272 per 100,000) and nearly double the rate for Hispanics (823 per 100,000).”

Pew Research


You can’t explain this away with your “blacks are all in your face in the streets.” Six times the imprisonment rate!

For the most part, this is a matter of locking up criminals, rather than any kind of false imprisonment. Admittedly, there are some people in prison who are innocent, but this has nothing to do with race or ethnicity.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Am I correct in assuming that it is your opinion that there are degrees of racism?

Of course. But there is nothing racist about the woman I am mentioning.

 

[BotanyBoy]

“Another way of considering racial and ethnic differences in the nation’s prison population is by looking at the imprisonment rate, which tallies the number of prisoners per 100,000 people. In 2017, there were 1,549 black prisoners for every 100,000 black adults – nearly six times the imprisonment rate for whites (272 per 100,000) and nearly double the rate for Hispanics (823 per 100,000).”

Pew Research


You can’t explain this away with your “blacks are all in your face in the streets.” Six times the imprisonment rate!

Not all of it, but a most of it.

Behavior matters, you can deny it all you want, but it's true.

Unless you want to deny racism against Latinos, Asians and Jews.

 

[dan_c00000]

is racist to express disagreement with somebody by citing government statistics?

Here's a statistic for you.

A cop was 77 times more likely to be killed by a white man than an unarmed white man is to be killed by a cop.

Are we going to start talking about white-on-white violence now?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Here's a statistic for you.

A cop was 77 times more likely to be killed by a white man than an unarmed white man is to be killed by a cop.

Are we going to start talking about white-on-white violence now?

White people aren't the ones crying racism and "Black privilege!!!" every time the cops shoot an unarmed white man.

So that one landed pretty softly, better luck next time.

 

[dan_c00000]

White people aren't the ones crying racism and "Black privilege!!!" every time the cops shoot an unarmed white man.

So that one landed pretty softly, better luck next time.

Didn't answer the question racist bot.

Maybe you ought to try reading it again: are we going to start talking about white-on-white crime because it seems like there's an awful lot of white people shooting an awful lot of white people.

Well racist bot, aren't you concerned about the white menace?

That was a lot for you to doge there racist bot. I'll except one of your alts to come in and try to paste together what remains of your ruined asshole.