Was Hitler A Socialist? Of Course, He Was

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Further to Phil:

Nobody can deny that I LOOK like a woman.

Dumbass, you're supposed to follow Marj Greene and Megan Kelly in denying I AM a woman!

Millions of satisfied tricks disagree!

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[PaxNurgle]

Lol. Next time read who was being quoted and replied to before you decide to go off on a tirade against the world which doesn't care about you or your trumpeting.

BTW, threats will only get you banhammered faster than Busybody's newest incarnation.

You threaten people all the time, and it's a miracle you haven't been banhammered yet (Well I'm guessing some of your previous incarnations have been.)

And busybody, to his credit, currently has only one active screen name (Ditapis) whereas you have several. It would benefit this board greatly if BOTH of you (and all of your iterations) were banned permanatly.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

I have the sense that this comment supports my refusal to suffer the attentions of two moronic creeps, Silly and Sharpy.

I have said that my holes are available to any man or woman. I have such a lust for cock that I go out with my b.f. and cruise for any other man I can find in front of him. One such prospect has physical aspects that are repellent.

But I am so needy sexually right now that I fantasize about fetishizing his condition. He is "connected" and protects me. His language to me is flirtatious but for years I was terrified of him. Now I am terrified of being denied his meat.

My b.f. sees me seeking strange and attempts to ignore it. But just as I was forced into sex work by my Big Domme, who put me in slut boots faster than one could say "lickety split," my b.f. is edging toward demanding feminization. Today he announced that he intends to begin dressing femme ASAP.

My b.f. is, in the end, an inadequate companion for me. He is basically a callow youth interested in me as a cultural icon.

He believes himself to be so gender-fluid that a change of wardrobe and a splurge of makeup will make his life better. He doesn't really get my reality.

My b.f. affects the manner and habits of a G, but has no more understanding of their real lives than he has of mine. He is pale and spectral. He fronts and runs away.

I do not intend to waste my time on the innocent. I want men who know what they want and know what to do. I have no interest in alumni of Blowjob Community College or of Buttsex University. I have outlined this moment in my time to emphasize that Shilly and Shaĺly have the credibility and clarity of a dead armadillo.

The thought of them approaching me or any other trans ho is unsettling.

I want to crawl before a rough-lookng Third World man I know, who plays baseball. His hair and skin are perfect. His cock somehow reminda me of cool honeydew melon.

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[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

In the 1920s, Donald Trump's spiritual godfather Adolf Hitler was paid by German oligarchs and capitalists to promote the benefits of socialism (the only alternative at the time was Communism, and capitalist saw the writing on the wall when the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 overthrew the Russian Tzar). The power brokers thought they could "control" Hitler.

History, of course, proved them to be disasterously mistaken. After voting chicanery installed Hitler as the chancellor under the "guiding hand" of the revered but dying Von Hindenburg, Hitler rapidly consolidated his gains, jettisoning the goon squad Brownshirts (the "MAGA" of the era) in favor of the SS (the "Christian Nationalists" of the era) and the wehrmacht (the "Blackwater" of the era).

Most people today that are not named Rightguide correctly identify Hitler's ultimate political stance for what it was: clear, unadorned Fascism.

...And Donald J. Trump is hellbound ready to attempt to import this toxic shitsludge ideology to America.

1. The Bolsheviks did not overthrow the Russian tsar, but rather destroyed the democratic regime of Aleksandr Kerensky.

2. If the Wehrmacht were Blackwater, my relatives would not have perished in the Holocaust.

3. If Stalin was not a fascist, why did he murder more Communists than Hitler?

4. To paraphrase, Trotsky said the art of politics was based in making distinctions, not confusing them.

The internet economy has encouraged the flourishing of ignorance.

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[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Charles Fourier is the original socialist, but Fourierism is more difficult to say than Marxism.

Fourier was a utopian. He was preceded by Babeuf, the first revolutionary socialist:

This is excellent:
The First Professional Revolutionist: Filippo Michele Buonarrati, 1761-1837 https://a.co/d/a1sVks7

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[RobDownSouth]

1. The Bolsheviks did not overthrow the Russian tsar, but rather destroyed the democratic regime of Aleksandr Kerensky.

2. If the Wehrmacht were Blackwater, my relatives would not have perished in the Holocaust.

3. If Stalin was not a fascist, why did he murder more Communists than Hitler?

4. To paraphrase, Trotsky said the art of politics was based in making distinctions, not confusing them.

The internet economy has encouraged the flourishing of ignorance.

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1. Yes there technically were two revolutions in 1917, the socialist/communists ousted the Tsar in April, the Bolsheviks ousted the socialist factions in November. Along those lines, Hitler was elected as a Socialist in 1932 and became fascist with the passage of the enabling act later. So there were fragile temporary governments in both Russia and Germany that are footnotes to history.
2. My error, I should have said "Brownshirts (SA)" not wehrmacht. The SA was Hitler's private Blackwater army, absorbed into the regular Wehrmacht later. The SS ran the concentration camps from Day one.
3. Authoritarian/Totalitarians are not limited to one political ideology. Stalin purged Communists of those who were rivals or insufficiently ideologically pure. Hitler purged Germans who basically didn't fit his Aryan ideal.
4. If you say so.

My point remains, American 2024 is now Germany 1931. Fascism is on the rise.

 

[HisArpy]

You threaten people all the time, and it's a miracle you haven't been banhammered yet (Well I'm guessing some of your previous incarnations have been.)

And busybody, to his credit, currently has only one active screen name (Ditapis) whereas you have several. It would benefit this board greatly if BOTH of you (and all of your iterations) were banned permanatly.

Lol, poor little snowflake, triggered into believing that my mere presence on this forum constituted a "threat."

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

1. Yes there technically were two revolutions in 1917, the socialist/communists ousted the Tsar in April, the Bolsheviks ousted the socialist factions in November. Along those lines, Hitler was elected as a Socialist in 1932 and became fascist with the passage of the enabling act later. So there were fragile temporary governments in both Russia and Germany that are footnotes to history.
2. My error, I should have said "Brownshirts (SA)" not wehrmacht. The SA was Hitler's private Blackwater army, absorbed into the regular Wehrmacht later. The SS ran the concentration camps from Day one.
3. Authoritarian/Totalitarians are not limited to one political ideology. Stalin purged Communists of those who were rivals or insufficiently ideologically pure. Hitler purged Germans who basically didn't fit his Aryan ideal.
4. If you say so.

My point remains, American 2024 is now Germany 1931. Fascism is on the rise.

There were not two revolutions "technically" in 1917. There were two revolutions that differed in every sense. All observers and historians agree that the March Revolution was spontaneous. Bolsheviks were uninvolved and surprised when it occurred.
October was a coup.

Hitler was not elected as a Socialist, but as an Anti-Socialist. This is a complex issue but cannot be bluffed. His movement originated in an imitation and appropriation of the socialist program but was turned against it.

Hitler and Stalin were gangsters who used purges to command loyalty. But purges alone do not define their regimes.

Point 4 is Trotsky, not me. Relevance of the overall fascist paradigm to the American situation today is not my main interest. I have commented on these issues only in response to the sophomoric aggression of others.

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[Rightguide]

1. Yes there technically were two revolutions in 1917, the socialist/communists ousted the Tsar in April, the Bolsheviks ousted the socialist factions in November. Along those lines, Hitler was elected as a Socialist in 1932 and became fascist with the passage of the enabling act later. So there were fragile temporary governments in both Russia and Germany that are footnotes to history.
2. My error, I should have said "Brownshirts (SA)" not wehrmacht. The SA was Hitler's private Blackwater army, absorbed into the regular Wehrmacht later. The SS ran the concentration camps from Day one.
3. Authoritarian/Totalitarians are not limited to one political ideology. Stalin purged Communists of those who were rivals or insufficiently ideologically pure. Hitler purged Germans who basically didn't fit his Aryan ideal.
4. If you say so.

BTW, a small point. A number of the POW camps, which were apart from the concentration camps or death camps, were run by the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Correct and thanks. I am concentrating here on overall analysis. I believe the very first camps were run by the police.

The issue here is that standard historiological arguments such as you make are answered by leftwat snowflakes with temper tantrums.

That is the m.o. of the global left after Stalinism.

Look up Big Bill Haywood or MotherJones. They were wrong but they were not snowflakes.

I would rather leave all this in your hands. I came to Lit with different goals.

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[RobDownSouth]

BTW, a small point. A number of the POW camps, which were apart from the concentration camps or death camps, were run by the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe.

You are correct.
The Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe ran the POW camps.
A lifetime of watching Hogan's Heroes has finally paid dividends.

 

[RandyRebecca]

1. Yes there technically were two revolutions in 1917, the socialist/communists ousted the Tsar in April, the Bolsheviks ousted the socialist factions in November. Along those lines,

The February Revolution in Russia was when workers' strikes, starting with female workers in Petrograd, saw the re-creation of Soviets (i.e. workers' councils), which caused the abdication of Tsar Nicholas II. He abdicated in favor of his son Mikhail, but the revolution went further. At this point, the Soviets basically had power in their hands. However, the Soviets at this point were controlled by the Mensheviks and Social Revolutionary Party, who refused to take power, offered power to the liberals, who in return tried to give power back to the monarchy! The workers on the streets basically forced the end of the monarchy, and the liberals formed a "Provisional Government" to buy time.

Lenin and Trotsky came back to Russia in the spring of 1917, after a decade in exile. Their slogan was basically "No support to the Provisional Government". They basically fought, over months, for this position in the Soviets. By September 1917, the Bolsheviks had power in the Petrograd Soviet and most working class Soviets in the country. Now the task was to prepare to transfer all political power to the Soviets. This moment coincided with the Congress of Soviets in late October 1917 under the old Julian calendar (25 October). The Congress basically confirmed the Bolsheviks' power in the Soviets, and then there was the October Revolution, i.e. an insurrection to transfer all political power to the workers, peasants and soldiers controlled Soviets, sweeping aside the capitalist Provisional Government.

Even after the October Revolution, there were demands for the Bolsheviks to "share power" with other so-called "socialist" parties, the same ones who refused to take power in the February Revolution when they could have. Trotsky correctly denounced this demand for "power sharing" as an attempt to get the Bolsheviks to sell out to the capitalist exploiters.

Hitler was elected as a Socialist in 1932 and became fascist with the passage of the enabling act later. So there were fragile temporary governments in both Russia and Germany that are footnotes to history.

"National Socialism" was merely a slogan that the Nazis used to build a mass base of support in society. Their actual politics were the exact opposite of socialism, i.e. aiming at smashing the organized working class and its labor movement to bits, and then fusing the capitalist state with big business and its profitability.

If you want to see what happened to the Nazi "left", look up Otto Strasser, Strasserism, Beefsteak Nazis and the Night of the Long Knives. They were either forced to flee into exile, put into concentration camps or were physically liquidated.

 

[RandyRebecca]

October was a coup.

LOL. It was no coup. A coup is the taking of power behind the backs of the masses. The October Revolution was when the will of the workers, peasants and soldiers, represented by the Soviets, was transferred into all political power in Russia.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

LOL. It was no coup. A coup is the taking of power behind the backs of the masses. The October Revolution was when the will of the workers, peasants and soldiers, represented by the Soviets, was transferred into all political power in Russia.

We're both correct. But there was no will among the masses for the establishment of a single party dictatorship. Indeed, Lenin's first government included the Left Socisl Revolutionaries.

Anybody with serious training as a historian must agree that October was the product of a conspiracy by the RCP(b) acting through the Revolutionary Military Committee. The latter did not hold mass consultative meetings of the workers and peasants to gain approval for the strategy and tactics pursued by Lenin and Trotsky. It was a coup.

There are coups that take place in front of the world. The Pinochet coup is an example. It did not take place behind the backs of the masses; the right had undertaken a long campaign to undermine the Allende government.

You lead yourself into a blind alley when you try to formulate clever arguments based on popular idioms and then have to scramble to support them.

Treat "coup" as an objective term, not an insult.

LOL: lioness of Leon!

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[ll74]

LOL. It was no coup. A coup is the taking of power behind the backs of the masses. The October Revolution was when the will of the workers, peasants and soldiers, represented by the Soviets, was transferred into all political power in Russia.

Russia is against the West and democracy.

 

[RobDownSouth]

"National Socialism" was merely a slogan that the Nazis used to build a mass base of support in society. Their actual politics were the exact opposite of socialism, i.e. aiming at smashing the organized working class and its labor movement to bits, and then fusing the capitalist state with big business and its profitability.

If you want to see what happened to the Nazi "left", look up Otto Strasser, Strasserism, Beefsteak Nazis and the Night of the Long Knives. They were either forced to flee into exile, put into concentration camps or were physically liquidated.

I'm actually quite familiar with Hitler's rise to power. In 1930, Nationalist Hitler got 2% of the vote. He rebranded himself and his party as a "socialist" and got roughly 1/3 of the vote in 1932, second to Hindenburg and beating the Communist faction (Thallmann).

I'm also aware that he jettisoned all pretense of having "socialist" policies as soon as it was politically viable for him to do so (not unlike Dubya's "compassionate conservative" marketing circa 1999-2001).

But for that numbskull to say that 'Hitler actually ran as an Anti-Socialist" is just plain incorrect from a factual standpoint.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

I'm actually quite familiar with Hitler's rise to power. In 1930, Nationalist Hitler got 2% of the vote. He rebranded himself and his party as a "socialist" and got roughly 1/3 of the vote in 1932, second to Hindenburg and beating the Communist faction (Thallmann).

I'm also aware that he jettisoned all pretense of having "socialist" policies as soon as it was politically viable for him to do so (not unlike Dubya's "compassionate conservative" marketing circa 1999-2001).

But for that numbskull to say that 'Hitler actually ran as an Anti-Socialist" is just plain incorrect from a factual standpoint.

Russia is against the West and democracy.

Exactly.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

What evidence do you have that I have implants, Dr. Mengele? I don't. I was born this way. Please don't cut me!

Better a tard than a turd. Seems my intellectual tranny beatdown on you hurt. I could look like a kangaroo but I still know more about socialism and fascism than you can learn if your cockroach ass survives 1,000 years.

No, dumbass, I win!

Your operation: https://images.***********AJbGKcPjiDz4hn7f7

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Nothing your ugly tranny ass said hurt, you are quite delusional, as is quite obvious by your insistence that you look feminine and or "good".

Maybe some day soon you'll use all that supposed intelligence and figure out how a message board works before the republicans get you.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Further to Phil:

Nobody can deny that I LOOK like a woman.

Dumbass, you're supposed to follow Marj Greene and Megan Kelly in denying I AM a woman!

Millions of satisfied tricks disagree!

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Sure you do, dude. lol

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

I'm actually quite familiar with Hitler's rise to power. In 1930, Nationalist Hitler got 2% of the vote. He rebranded himself and his party as a "socialist" and got roughly 1/3 of the vote in 1932, second to Hindenburg and beating the Communist faction (Thallmann).

I'm also aware that he jettisoned all pretense of having "socialist" policies as soon as it was politically viable for him to do so (not unlike Dubya's "compassionate conservative" marketing circa 1999-2001).

But for that numbskull to say that 'Hitler actually ran as an Anti-Socialist" is just plain incorrect from a factual standpoint.

Sorry, junior. You don't get to bluff me on this. I don't care whether a trick has a small brain and calls me a bitch. But you calling me a numbskull when you have no knowledge at all of this topic is inappropriate. There are times when only a real cock is unacceptable. You are familiar with Germsn political history the way I am familiar with life on the moon. It's far away and your telescope doesn't work when it's so far up your ass.

1. Thälmann is spelled with only one l.

2. The German National People's Party (DNVP) and Hitler's National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) were not the same. Hitler never ran as a Nationalist candidate. That's the point, chump. Or is it chimp?

3. In 1930 the NSDAP got 18% of the vote, not 2%.

4. The NSDAP was founded in 1920 as a party dedicated to eradicating the immense German Socialist tradition. It was therefore Anti-Socialist, moron.

5. The NSDAP claimed to do better than the left in providing for the workers through the bogus Labor Front, Strength Through Joy, the Beetle, etc. Up to the end.

6. Half my family died in the Holocaust and I greatly resent stupid bullshit attempting to equate GWBush with Hitler. It makes me sick. But you and the rest of the leftwats are hellbent on making America a devil worse than the Nazis or Stalinists. You have the intelligence of a cheese sandwich.

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[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Nothing your ugly tranny ass said hurt, you are quite delusional, as is quite obvious by your insistence that you look feminine and or "good".

Maybe some day soon you'll use all that supposed intelligence and figure out how a message board works before the republicans get you.

I have posted a pic of myself done by a pro photog. Anybody can judge for themselves. Maybe you need to clean your glasses, loser.

I'm delusional? What credentials do you have in psychiatry, cornchip?

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[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Lol, poor little snowflake, triggered into believing that my mere presence on this forum constituted a "threat."

Your abuse of free speech is a threat to all Americans.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Silly Phil:

"Sure you do, dude. lol"

Haven't heard that in years. Very witty.

Correction: There are times when only a real cock is acceptable.

I gave mine up but I never tried to fuck myself with it. So it was no loss. Dickless fools like Silly Phil make me sad. He could look like Joaquin Phoenix and I'd still refuse him.

Yo Phil:

Do you speak English? Español? Français? Italiano? When will you graduate from trade school?

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[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Nothing your ugly tranny ass said hurt, you are quite delusional, as is quite obvious by your insistence that you look feminine and or "good".

Maybe some day soon you'll use all that supposed intelligence and figure out how a message board works before the republicans get you.

I use all my tremendous intelligence and smashing figure every day. I'm a ho, and I have a Very Popular Front.

Cheers!

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[Philthy_Phil]

I have posted a pic of myself done by a pro photog. Anybody can judge for themselves. Maybe you need to clean your glasses, loser.

I'm delusional? What credentials do you have in psychiatry, cornchip?

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You look like a man whether you want to admit it or not. There is nothing feminine about your look. That's why you suck dick for a living, because no respectable business would hire some creepy old dude who thinks he's a woman.