Was Hitler A Socialist? Of Course, He Was

[Rightguide]

Just some quotes to remind the left just how close they are to where he was:

Hitler on Marxism​

“National Socialism derives from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the teaching of Marxism.” – January 27, 1934, interview with Hanns Johst in Frankforter Volksblatt

Hitler on Teaching Socialism​

“There is a difference between the theoretical knowledge of socialism and the practical life of socialism. People are not born socialists, but must first be taught how to become them.” – October 5, 1937, speech in Berlin

Hitler on Capitalism​

“In those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and, as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are more or less independent and free. They say: ‘Here we have liberty.’ By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of the ‘freedom of the press.’ In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it.” – December 10, 1940, speech in Berlin

Hitler on Socialism​

“Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.” – August 15, 1920, speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus.

Hitler on Social Justice​

“Because it seems inseparable from the social idea and we do not believe that there could ever exist a state with lasting inner health if it is not built on internal social justice, and so we have joined forces with this knowledge.” – August 15, 1920, speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus

Hitler on Class Abolition​

“We must on principle free ourselves from any class standpoint.” – April 12, 1922, speech in Munich

“There are no such things as classes: they cannot be. … here there can be no class, here there can be only a single people and beyond that nothing else.” – April 12, 1922, speech in Munich

Hitler on Marxism and Socialism​

(Editor’s Note: StoppingSocialism.com does not agree with Hitler’s description of socialism, communism, and Marxism below. He deliberately misled people about the meaning of these terms for political reasons.)

“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national.” – 1923, Interview with George Sylvester Viereck

Hitler on State Property Control​

“To put it quite clearly: we have an economic program. Point 13 in that program demands the nationalization of all public companies, in other words socialization, or what is known here as socialism. … the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me? Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals anymore; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.” – May 4, 1931, interview with Richard Breiting

Hitler on the Bourgeoisie​

“Over the last 40 years, the German bourgeoisie has been a lamentable failure; it has not given the German people a single leader; it will have to bow without gainsaying to the totality of my ideology.” – May 4, 1931, interview with Richard Breiting

Hitler on German Socialism​

“What they hate is the Germany which sets a dangerous example for them, this social Germany. It is the Germany of a social labor legislation which they already hated before the World War and which they still hate today. It is the Germany of social welfare, of social equality, of the elimination of class differences—this is what they hate! They hate this Germany which in the course of seven years has labored to afford its Volksgenossen a decent life. They hate this Germany which has eliminated unemployment, which, in spite of all their wealth, they have not been able to eliminate. This Germany which grants its laborers decent housing—this is what they hate because they have a feeling their own peoples could be ‘infected’ thereby. They hate this Germany of social legislation, this Germany which celebrates the first of May as the day of honest labor.” – May 8, 1939, speech “Party Comrades! My German Volksgenossen!” at the Bürgerbräukeller in Munich

Hitler on the Hammer and Sickle​

“The hammer will once more become the symbol of the German worker and the sickle the sign of the German peasant.” – May 1, 1934, May Day speech in Berlin

Hitler on German Socialism​

“Is there a nobler or more excellent kind of Socialism and is there a truer form of Democracy than this National Socialism which is so organized that through it each one among the millions of German boys is given the possibility of finding his way to the highest office in the nation, should it please Providence to come to his aid?” – January 30, 1937, On National Socialism and World Relations speech in the German Reichstag

Hitler on Profits​

“And justice is on the side of those nations that fight for their threatened existence. And this struggle for existence will spur these nations on to the most tremendous accomplishments in world history. If profit is the driving force for production in the democracies—a profit that industrialists, bankers, and corrupt politicians pocket—then the driving force in National Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy is the realization by millions of laborers that, in this war, it is they who are being fought against. They realize that the democracies, if they should ever win, would rage with the full capitalist cruelty, that cruelty of which only those are capable whose only god is gold, who know no human sentiments other than their obsession with profit, and who are ready to sacrifice all noble thought to this profit instinct without hesitation. This struggle is not an attack on the rights of other nations, but on the arrogance and avarice of a narrow capitalist upper class, one which refuses to acknowledge that the days are over when gold ruled the world, and that, by contrast, a future is dawning when the people will be the determining force in the life of a nation.” – January 1, 1941, speech in Berlin

Hitler on His Own Fanatical Socialism​

“Germany’s economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people.” – February 24, 1941, speech on the 21st anniversary of the Nazi Party

Hitler on the Triumph of Socialism​

“All the more so after the war, the German National Socialist state, which pursued this goal from the beginning, will tirelessly work for the realization of a program that will ultimately lead to a complete elimination of class differences and to the creation of a true socialist community.” – March 21, 1943, speech for Heroes’ Memorial Day

 

[ll74]

He was a fascist dictator and not at all a socialist.

Hope this helps


Using the word socialist does not make you a socialist.

 

[Wriggle]

This person spent ages making this post critical of the left by using policies of the car right, and then posted it to an erotica website.

 

[Lube_it_up]

He was a fascist dictator and not at all a socialist.

1. Fascism is a branch of Marxist discourse.
2. Real fascism existed only in fascist Italy. Calling German Nazis fascists is as stupid as calling Italian fascists Nazis. They are similar because they both stem from Marxism, but they are different political systems.

This person spent ages making this post critical of the left by using policies of the car right, and then posted it to an erotica website.

Aren't you surprised that an erotic site has a section for politics?

 

[Rightguide]

This person spent ages making this post critical of the left by using policies of the car right, and then posted it to an erotica website.

You should probably continue your education to a point of political competency before posting again on this subject. It's quite clear you've been cheated or your too lazy to have studied the issue. I made it up in ten minutes from a collection of quotes designed to educate people like you who think they are but in fact are non-conversant in the subject of Socialism, National Socialism, and how they relate to Marxism as Karl Marx understood it to be. So, that said you might want to wriggle your ass out of bed and find a competent library in which to study the issue.

 

[Rightguide]

1. Fascism is a branch of Marxist discourse.
2. Real fascism existed only in fascist Italy. Calling German Nazis fascists is as stupid as calling Italian fascists Nazis. They are similar because they both stem from Marxism, but they are different political systems.

Aren't you surprised that an erotic site has a section for politics?

But recall that Mussolini was a Socialist and did edit the Italian Socialist magazine, Avanti.

 

[ll74]

1. Fascism is a branch of Marxist discourse.
2. Real fascism existed only in fascist Italy. Calling German Nazis fascists is as stupid as calling Italian fascists Nazis. They are similar because they both stem from Marxism, but they are different political systems.

Aren't you surprised that an erotic site has a section for politics?

Hitler was a fascist dictator....I like to refer to him as a fascist fuckhead.

But you go ahead and believe whatever stupidity you want to make you feel good. You and ReichGad can laugh over some cognac while listening to nazi Reich greatest hits..maybe throw in some wonderful jabs about Soros.

 

[ll74]

But recall that Mussolini was a Socialist and did edit the Italian Socialist magazine, Avanti.

Mussolini was also a fascist dictator.

 

[Lube_it_up]

But you go ahead and believe whatever stupidity you want to make you feel good.

I use words correctly, as befits a person who has at least a superficial understanding of political ideologies.
But you can speak as you like - this is freedom of speech that cannot exist in socialist countries, such as Nazi Germany.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

1. All citizens of the state shall be equal as regards rights and obligations.
2. The first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the framework of the whole for the benefit for the general good. We demand therefore:
3. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
4. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice of life and property that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment due to a war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. Therefore, we demand ruthless confiscation of all war profits.
5. We demand nationalization of all businesses which have been up to the present formed into companies (trusts).
6. We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.
7. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
8. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
9. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of land rent and prevention of all speculation in land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program


The numbers correspond with 9 through 17, but whatever. The ideas presented seem rather socialist.

 

[Rightguide]

Mussolini was also a fascist dictator.

Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin, all believed in socialism, the only major difference between them was whether it should be "national" or global.

 

[Bn2f]

Just some quotes to remind the left just how close they are to where he was:

Hitler on Marxism​

“National Socialism derives from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the teaching of Marxism.” – January 27, 1934, interview with Hanns Johst in Frankforter Volksblatt

Hitler on Teaching Socialism​

“There is a difference between the theoretical knowledge of socialism and the practical life of socialism. People are not born socialists, but must first be taught how to become them.” – October 5, 1937, speech in Berlin

Hitler on Capitalism​

“In those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and, as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are more or less independent and free. They say: ‘Here we have liberty.’ By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of the ‘freedom of the press.’ In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it.” – December 10, 1940, speech in Berlin

Hitler on Socialism​

“Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.” – August 15, 1920, speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus.

Hitler on Social Justice​

“Because it seems inseparable from the social idea and we do not believe that there could ever exist a state with lasting inner health if it is not built on internal social justice, and so we have joined forces with this knowledge.” – August 15, 1920, speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus

Hitler on Class Abolition​

“We must on principle free ourselves from any class standpoint.” – April 12, 1922, speech in Munich

“There are no such things as classes: they cannot be. … here there can be no class, here there can be only a single people and beyond that nothing else.” – April 12, 1922, speech in Munich

Hitler on Marxism and Socialism​

(Editor’s Note: StoppingSocialism.com does not agree with Hitler’s description of socialism, communism, and Marxism below. He deliberately misled people about the meaning of these terms for political reasons.)

“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national.” – 1923, Interview with George Sylvester Viereck

Hitler on State Property Control​

“To put it quite clearly: we have an economic program. Point 13 in that program demands the nationalization of all public companies, in other words socialization, or what is known here as socialism. … the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me? Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals anymore; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.” – May 4, 1931, interview with Richard Breiting

Hitler on the Bourgeoisie​

“Over the last 40 years, the German bourgeoisie has been a lamentable failure; it has not given the German people a single leader; it will have to bow without gainsaying to the totality of my ideology.” – May 4, 1931, interview with Richard Breiting

Hitler on German Socialism​

“What they hate is the Germany which sets a dangerous example for them, this social Germany. It is the Germany of a social labor legislation which they already hated before the World War and which they still hate today. It is the Germany of social welfare, of social equality, of the elimination of class differences—this is what they hate! They hate this Germany which in the course of seven years has labored to afford its Volksgenossen a decent life. They hate this Germany which has eliminated unemployment, which, in spite of all their wealth, they have not been able to eliminate. This Germany which grants its laborers decent housing—this is what they hate because they have a feeling their own peoples could be ‘infected’ thereby. They hate this Germany of social legislation, this Germany which celebrates the first of May as the day of honest labor.” – May 8, 1939, speech “Party Comrades! My German Volksgenossen!” at the Bürgerbräukeller in Munich

Hitler on the Hammer and Sickle​

“The hammer will once more become the symbol of the German worker and the sickle the sign of the German peasant.” – May 1, 1934, May Day speech in Berlin

Hitler on German Socialism​

“Is there a nobler or more excellent kind of Socialism and is there a truer form of Democracy than this National Socialism which is so organized that through it each one among the millions of German boys is given the possibility of finding his way to the highest office in the nation, should it please Providence to come to his aid?” – January 30, 1937, On National Socialism and World Relations speech in the German Reichstag

Hitler on Profits​

“And justice is on the side of those nations that fight for their threatened existence. And this struggle for existence will spur these nations on to the most tremendous accomplishments in world history. If profit is the driving force for production in the democracies—a profit that industrialists, bankers, and corrupt politicians pocket—then the driving force in National Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy is the realization by millions of laborers that, in this war, it is they who are being fought against. They realize that the democracies, if they should ever win, would rage with the full capitalist cruelty, that cruelty of which only those are capable whose only god is gold, who know no human sentiments other than their obsession with profit, and who are ready to sacrifice all noble thought to this profit instinct without hesitation. This struggle is not an attack on the rights of other nations, but on the arrogance and avarice of a narrow capitalist upper class, one which refuses to acknowledge that the days are over when gold ruled the world, and that, by contrast, a future is dawning when the people will be the determining force in the life of a nation.” – January 1, 1941, speech in Berlin

Hitler on His Own Fanatical Socialism​

“Germany’s economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people.” – February 24, 1941, speech on the 21st anniversary of the Nazi Party

Hitler on the Triumph of Socialism​

“All the more so after the war, the German National Socialist state, which pursued this goal from the beginning, will tirelessly work for the realization of a program that will ultimately lead to a complete elimination of class differences and to the creation of a true socialist community.” – March 21, 1943, speech for Heroes’ Memorial Day

Tha's right, suckas!
RG, ring da bell! School's in session! Teach these fools!
What's the lesson on tap for tomorrow?
How MLK was a republican?
Calling Jews globalists and attacking Soros actually means you love Israel?
Slavery and the employment possibilities for Africans?
What to do if you see a democrat killing a baby?

I'm on pins and needles! I can't wait!

 

[Lazaran]

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Hitler said lots of shit.

Incidentally, and ironically, SO. DOES. DRUMPF.

Putin also said lots of shit. And Putin’s hand puppet, DRUMPF, mouthed words / made mouth sounds that parroted Putin’s shit.

Hope that ^ helps.



"Right"guide

 

[Rotadom]

This person spent ages making this post critical of the left by using policies of the car right, and then posted it to an erotica website.

That's why he is universally laughed at and dismissed around here.

 

[Rightguide]

He was a fascist dictator and not at all a socialist.

Hope this helps


Using the word socialist does not make you a socialist.

Like a Communist he was a totalitarian, he was a socialist and a corporatist. They all reside on the very left of the real political spectrum which at the extreme left we have total government (communism) and on the extreme right we have anarchy (no government). Nazism, Communism, and Socialism are all totalitarian forms of government that occupy the far eft of the real political spectrum.

The fanciful political spectrum invented by American leftists, the one you labor under, was created to disassociate and excise Nazism from the family tree of the American left in order to defame American conservatives on the right. Which it fails to do on so many levels of informed inspection.

 

[ll74]

I use words correctly, as befits a person who has at least a superficial understanding of political ideologies.
But you can speak as you like - this is freedom of speech that cannot exist in socialist countries, such as Nazi Germany.

Awesome for you.

Nazi Germany wasn't a socialist country.

Hence the means of production not being owned by the people and a strong military dictator.

But don't worry, ReichGad will post this same shit in another few months, so we can chat again about it then

 

[phrodeau]

Wrong forum. Try Story Ideas.

 

[RobDownSouth]

In the 1920s, Donald Trump's spiritual godfather Adolf Hitler was paid by German oligarchs and capitalists to promote the benefits of socialism (the only alternative at the time was Communism, and capitalist saw the writing on the wall when the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 overthrew the Russian Tzar). The power brokers thought they could "control" Hitler.

History, of course, proved them to be disasterously mistaken. After voting chicanery installed Hitler as the chancellor under the "guiding hand" of the revered but dying Von Hindenburg, Hitler rapidly consolidated his gains, jettisoning the goon squad Brownshirts (the "MAGA" of the era) in favor of the SS (the "Christian Nationalists" of the era) and the wehrmacht (the "Blackwater" of the era).

Most people today that are not named Rightguide correctly identify Hitler's ultimate political stance for what it was: clear, unadorned Fascism.

...And Donald J. Trump is hellbound ready to attempt to import this toxic shitsludge ideology to America.

 

[ll74]

Like a Communist he was a totalitarian, he was a socialist and a corporatist. They all reside on the very left of the real political spectrum which at the extreme left we have total government (communism) and on the extreme right we have anarchy (no government). Nazism, Communism, and Socialism are all totalitarian forms of government that occupy the far eft of the real political spectrum.

The fanciful political spectrum invented by American leftists, the one you labor under, was created to disassociate and excise Nazism from the family tree of the American left in order to defame American conservatives on the right. Which it fails to do on so many levels of informed inspection.

He was a fascist dictator.

Sorry

We all know you don't care in any real way...you just want to rail on the left and try to tie them to a fascist fuckhead that was a nationalist and was never elected by the people.

The part that makes me laugh is that you think people who know hitler was not a socialist are saying so to somehow defend socialism. I could give a shit if he was a socialist.

 

[schism666]

Like a Communist he was a totalitarian

like a nazi, you are also white. where do you come up with this shite, vetteman?

 

[Rightguide]

In the 1920s, Donald Trump's spiritual godfather Adolf Hitler was paid by German oligarchs and capitalists to promote the benefits of socialism (the only alternative at the time was Communism, and capitalist saw the writing on the wall when the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 overthrew the Russian Tzar). The power brokers thought they could "control" Hitler.

History, of course, proved them to be disasterously mistaken. After voting chicanery installed Hitler as the chancellor under the "guiding hand" of the revered but dying Von Hindenburg, Hitler rapidly consolidated his gains, jettisoning the goon squad Brownshirts (the "MAGA" of the era) in favor of the SS (the "Christian Nationalists" of the era) and the wehrmacht (the "Blackwater" of the era).

Most people today that are not named Rightguide correctly identify Hitler's ultimate political stance for what it was: clear, unadorned Fascism.

...And Donald J. Trump is hellbound ready to attempt to import this toxic shitsludge ideology to America.

In the final analysis, it was a totalitarian nightmare no better or worse than Stalin's or Mao's. All three were murderous abominations to mankind and all were ideologically related in their contempt for freedom and the individual. All of which places them on the same side of the political spectrum. There is not an iota of a relationship between what they represented and what Donald Trump represents today, none, zilch, nada, and you know it.

 

[schism666]

not an iota of a relationship between what they represented and what Donald Trump represents today

oh for real?

Trump demands Republicans shut down government to 'defund' his criminal prosecutions​

Despite the former president's efforts, a government shutdown wouldn’t halt the four criminal cases against him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...nment-defund-criminal-prosecutions-rcna111365

shut the fuck up, vetteman. just shut the fuck up.

 

[Bray123]

Gordon Bennet this shit has been posted so many times, never once has it been correct.

Remember when East Germany was called the German Democratic Republic (or DDR, translated). Neither German, democratic nor a republic.

 

[Lube_it_up]

He was a fascist dictator.

You repeat the same mantra without giving any arguments.
The guy above cited points from the National Socialist program.

We demand nationalization of all businesses which have been up to the present formed int

It's socialist

We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.

It's socialist

We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare

It's socialist
And these are just some of the points. Most of them are socialist.
Please show the points from the NSDAP program that would be right.

 

[Rightguide]

It’s okay, people who try to sell Hitler as a socialist try to paint themselves as patriots without actually being patriots. At least they’re identifying themselves so we know not to ask them anything important.

Read the quotes, in his own words he labeled himself as a Socialist.