The Most Popular Alternative Name For The Washington Football Team Is...

[toubab]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ns-name_n_5522885.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

"WASHINGTON -- Most people don't think the Washington Redskins should change the team's name, but if the team ever decides to do the decent thing, Americans favor one alternate name over all others.

HuffPost, in partnership with YouGov, surveyed Americans about changing the Washington football team's moniker. A majority said that if they had to pick a new name, they liked "Washington Warriors" best. But only 21 percent of those polled said that the Redskins should change their name, while 62 percent said they should not.

The survey found some differences in how Americans of different political parties view the name. Only 5 percent of Republicans want it changed, while 20 percent of independents and 33 percent of Democrats said the same. Even among Democrats, though, 47 percent said the name should not be changed.

Last week the United States Patent and Trademark Office canceled the team's trademark registration, agreeing with Native American plaintiffs that the team's name and logo are "disparaging to Native Americans." Among other arguments, the plaintiffs cited 10 classic films in which characters used the term "redskin" in a disparaging way.

But relatively few of those polled agree that the term "redskin" is disparaging. Only 28 percent of respondents said they think it is, while 58 percent think it's not.

Forty percent of Democrats polled, but only 27 percent of independents and 15 percent of Republicans, said they think the term is offensive. The survey also found a division by race: Forty-nine percent of black respondents, but only 25 percent of white respondents, view the term as disparaging. (There are too few Native Americans in our sample to draw conclusions about their views as a group.)

If the team did choose to change its name, though, respondents were able to unite around one of seven options presented in the poll: the Washington Warriors. Fifty-five percent of respondents viewed it as the best alternative. It just so happens that team owner Dan Snyder previously filed paperwork to register "Washington Warriors" as a trademark, though it may have been for an aborted arena football venture.

Among the other options, 15 percent said they favored "Washington Renegades," 8 percent chose "Washington Monuments," and 4 percent chose "Washington Red Tails."

The Washington City Paper has promoted Pigskins since it garnered majority support in a reader poll. The name is also a nod to "The Hogs," a nickname for the team's offensive line in the 1980s and '90s. Six percent of Americans agreed with the City Paper in our poll.

The biographers of Red Cloud, a Sioux chief who defeated the United States military in 1868 and was treated as a head of state in Washington two years later, have suggested naming the team after him would truly honor Native Americans. But "Washington Red Clouds" only got 5 percent support.

Some commentators have advocated for "Washington Department of Football," in honor of the team's tradition of being forced by the government to do the right thing, but only 6 percent of Americans said they liked it as a potential name. The team used to play in a stadium on federal land and in 1961 Interior Secretary Stewart Udall told the Redskins, the last segregated NFL team, that they could only play there if they added black players to the roster. So they did.

If survey respondents were able to choose between any of these alternatives or the current name, the current name won out, 46 percent to 25 percent, over the Warriors. But a combined 54 percent chose some option other than the current name.

The HuffPost/YouGov poll was conducted June 17-19 among 1,000 U.S. adults using a sample selected from YouGov's opt-in online panel to match the demographics and other characteristics of the adult U.S. population. Factors considered include age, race, gender, education, employment, income, marital status, number of children, voter registration, time and location of Internet access, interest in politics, religion and church attendance.

The Huffington Post has teamed up with YouGov to conduct daily opinion polls. You can learn more about this project and take part in YouGov's nationally representative opinion polling. Data from all HuffPost/YouGov polls can be found here."

Interesting poll results, especially when looking at the differences between races, political persuasions, etc.

I can think of several unflattering names that would fit. Washington Hogs, for example.

 

[ryan8558]

I propose the following:

The Washington Gridlock.

 

[toubab]

I propose the following:

The Washington Gridlock.

Washington Weasels.

 

[miles]

Washington Democrats.

 

[Que]

How is implying that Natives are war-like a universal positive? I don't know that hopis navajos and zunis see their culture that way.

 

[colddiesel]

Washington Liars seems an obvious choice, most local institutions could identify with it.

 

[toubab]

How is implying that Natives are war-like a universal positive? I don't know that hopis navajos and zunis see their culture that way.

Would Washington Wimps be better?

 

[Liar]

They should of course be named after the most significant and powerful people in the region.

The Washington Lobbyists.

 

[trysail]

Move the whole goddamn, suppurating abscess to Pocatello or Pottawottamie or Coeur d'Alene.





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[toubab]

Move the whole goddamn, suppurating abscess to Pocatello or Pottawottamie or Coeur d'Alene.





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The Coeur d'Alene area is nice. I'd hate to see it polluted.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

They need a name that instils fear nd intimidates their opponents...



The Washington Revenuers. Then they can still employ Indian themes like scalping.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

How is implying that Natives are war-like a universal positive? I don't know that hopis navajos and zunis see their culture that way.

ME262 is a German jet,
Jumpin' Geronimo!

 

[islandman]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ns-name_n_5522885.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Some commentators have advocated for "Washington Department of Football," in honor of the team's tradition of being forced by the government to do the right thing

For the record, even the article - despite its veiled derision - admits that changing the team's name is "the right thing".

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

For the record, even the article - despite its veiled derision - admits that changing the team's name is "the right thing".

Is that only because of political pressure?

We have no sense of right and wrong, moral relativism instructs us that morality is individual and situational...



... perhaps, in a climate of fear, the writers threw that in to protect themselves just as newspapers will not run Allah cartoons. Is it not the job of the press to present facts sans judgement of the facts, leaving valuations such as right and wrong for the editorial pages?

 

[KingOrfeo]

From Salon:

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2014 08:30 AM EDT

White America’s shocking ignorance on racist mascots

What the rabid defense of egregious racial stereotypes says about America's social and political culture

Jacqueline Keeler

Last Wednesday, ESPN 980 Radio sports announcers Chris Cooley (a former tight end for Washington’s pro-football team), Steve Czaban and Al Galdi reacted to the announcement that the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office had canceled six of that football team’s trademarks:

Czaban: The only good counter argument is to say as soon as the Kansas City Chiefs and the Cleveland Indians and the Florida State Seminoles all want to do this then we’d certainly listen to them if they want us to join their movement to change their names….[Otherwise] say we’ll be the Washington Chiefs and paint a more racist picture on the side of the helmets, a buck-toothed Native American that says Chiefs. It won’t say Redskins, but it’ll be a really ugly Native American. It will not be a proud, dignified Native American. It’ll be very cartoonish, like Chief Wahoo, with a big buck-toothed smile.

Cooley: Chiefs and spell it wrong. Put the [e before the i]… No, I think if, God forbid, they were forced to change the name, they should just change it to the Smurfs. Something just out there. And then make the Smurf a little Indian Smurf, a red Smurf.

Yes, more racism is this ESPN crew’s reaction to the successful trademark challenge by Native American plaintiffs against Washington’s team name — an ethnic slur referring to the bloody scalps of Native American men, women and children that the U.S. government once paid bounties for.

This ruling has been a long time coming. The Native American community has been calling upon the team to change its name since the civil rights era, led by longtime Muscogee Creek activist Suzan Harjo of the Morning Star Institute, who filed the first suit in 1992 – which was overturned on a technicality in 1999 — and organized the second one, decided on Wednesday. Additionally, the National Congress of American Indians, the oldest and largest national organization of American Indian and Alaska Native tribal governments, has been in long-standing opposition to the use of “Indian” stereotypes such as mascots, logos and symbols. In 1968, the NCAI established an organizational campaign to bring about the end of these harmful and archaic depictions of Native people. In recent years, individual tribes, like the Oneida Indian Nation, have been using their new wealth to press the issue harder. And support has been growing. Last month, the Navajo Nation, the largest tribe in population and land base in the United States (they are not represented by NCAI) joined the movement with a resolution demanding the Washington, D.C., NFL franchise change its name.

* * *

Still reeling from the news Wednesday morning, ESPN’s Steve Czaban proceeded to taunt Native people’s reaction to the trademark cancellation:

[They're] going to dance around like in the final scene of Star Wars, like they just defeated the evil empire. Go ahead dance around and do whatever it does that assuages your white liberal guilt but nothing has changed, nothing will change. This is the biggest nothingburger story ever … Maybe we can get therapy for [them], chip in, get to the core of their guilt and understand what is it that’s nagging you.

Well, we didn’t dance around like Ewoks, but myself and other Native people from across the country celebrated together via social media at a Facebook Event page called, appropriately enough, “Redsk*ns Trademark Cancellation Day.” And it didn’t “assuage our white liberal guilt” but it did mark an important step for Native people fighting against defamation and stereotypes and toward obtaining protections under the law that other ethnic groups in the U.S. have enjoyed for decades and that we are only starting to realize now 50 years after the March on Washington.

I had to laugh as Cooley and company wondered aloud why this is an issue, and the only reason they could come up with was that it’s an attack on the team’s improved performance. It’s obvious that, insulated in their conservative world of professional football, they have been completely blindsided by the social media organizing of Native people and our allies in organizations like Eradicating Offensive Native Mascotry, which I helped found, and which now has more than 900 members from across the United States and Canada representing tribal members from hundreds of tribes and communities both urban and reservation.

For decades we have lagged behind other groups in getting recognition for our concerns, because we are only 1 percent of the population — a staggeringly low figure that is itself a legacy of U.S. policies designed to remove us as a threat to expansion into our lands. I know from arguing with the team’s supporters online that virtually none of them have ever even met a Native American person. Railing against me and other Natives is often the first time they’ve had a conversation with an actual citizen of a remaining Native nation.

What I find the most amazing when talking to supporters of the team name is the complete absence of knowledge about the Native community that they speak from, yet they nonetheless feel emboldened to speak for us, insisting, for example, that we don’t find the name offensive.

This all falls in line with studies showing that the use of Native mascots actually inflates the self-esteem of non-Natives, while having the opposite effect on Native people themselves. In a 2008 research paper, Stephanie Fryberg, a cultural and social psychology scholar and an enrolled member of the Tulalip Tribe, reported that exposure to mascot images like Chief Wahoo decreased Native youth self-esteem even more than that of stereotypically negative images (such as those depicting alcoholism and homelessness). These results even held true for Native people who claimed to find Native mascots positive.

These contrasting responses to Native mascots may serve as a clue as to why they are so difficult for fans to let go of, and why Native people, even when polled, may be unaware of the damage they do to their communities. The results also speak to a normative level of isolation Native people experience from American culture every day, both on and off the reservation. We have become acclimated to this and it comes at a heavy price. Native suicide rates are at 18 percent — twice as high as the nearest ethnic group.

In their ability to inflate non-Native self-esteem while doing great damage to those directly represented by them, Native mascots constitute another taking by the United States from our people. The phenomenon gives life to the term “Redsk*ns” as a present-day form of bounty on another generation of the indigenous population. As a mascot it lives up to its historic meaning as a war trophy.

And yet, Cooley and company claimed during their show that 70-to-90 percent of Native people are proud to call themselves “Redsk*ns.” They appeared not to have heard of the most recent study done by California State University, San Bernadino, that found 67 percent of Native Americans found the Washington team name offensive. (By contrast, only 20 percent disagreed and 12 percent were neutral, while a full 60 percent of white respondents said they did not find the term racist.) The constant reiteration by Cooley and other Washington supporters — that Native Americans don’t care — shows an extreme ignorance about Native people.

My organization, Eradicating Offensive Native Mascotry, has its origins on Twitter, where we met after arguing together with Washington fans. About 120 of us began meeting on Facebook during the football season to file FCC obscenity complaints online every time the word was used during Washington games. (I have, in my time, filed many FCC forms reporting the usage of the ethnic slur by the ESPN 980 announcers, in particular. My hope is that with this trademark decision that I will never have to file another one.) About 450 of us trended #NotYourMascot during the Super Bowl, and we will continue our hashtag activism as a way of creating that environment where the use of a slur for an NFL team in the nation’s capital will become more and more unacceptable. We will also apply public pressure on sponsors to distance themselves from a slur that has been denied a federal trademark.

Our group has grown to more than 900 members from across the country, and from nearly every tribe in the United States. We are Native American parents, professors, lawyers, journalists, teachers, small business owners, artists, elders and tribal leaders. Our organization is completely volunteer and yet the depth of the talent in our group means there is never any limitation to what we can do. This is the real Native America that our fellow Americans need to know about. Yes, we are just 1 percent of the population; yes, 30 percent of us live on sometimes remote reservations, and 70 percent are dispersed in urban communities where we exist as minorities among minorities. But we still have the right to basic human decency and respect.

 

[Que]

The Washington Regulators.

How 'bout "The Washington Treaty-Breakers?"

I guess "The Washington Indian-Givers" would be out-of-bounds?

 

[ryan8558]

The Washington Redtape

Still get to keep Red in the name.

 

[islandman]

Is that only because of political pressure?

We have no sense of right and wrong, moral relativism instructs us that morality is individual and situational...



... perhaps, in a climate of fear, the writers threw that in to protect themselves just as newspapers will not run Allah cartoons. Is it not the job of the press to present facts sans judgement of the facts, leaving valuations such as right and wrong for the editorial pages?

We all have a sense of right and wrong. Society then comes along and makes it relative.

I think that's where your definition went wrong. More importantly, it's telling that you cannot accept a situation in which a person does the right thing just because. That's a very sad way to live life.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Washington Regulators.

EPA only scary to ranchers and farmers.

IRS scares the shit out of everybody, even the Cowboys. Make Jerry Jones think twice about actually trying to beat them and risk audit...

 

[Busybody]

whatever name is chosen

better b written in erasable pencil

someone is BOUND to be offended

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We all have a sense of right and wrong. Society then comes along and makes it relative.

I think that's where your definition went wrong. More importantly, it's telling that you cannot accept a situation in which a person does the right thing just because. That's a very sad way to live life.

Define the right thing.

If even one person is offended by the word Cowboy, scratch person, FEMINIST, do we have to change the name to the Cowpersons in order not to offend?

Or maybe the Indian shakedown will continue when they claim that Cowboys offend them because they were the stealers of their land, like the Sooners...

Do we have enough fantasy and fictional characters to avoid offending anyone?

Fat people would hate the Kansas City Hulks...

It never, ever ends, doing the right thing. We'll go down to Texas. Plenty of rebels there, doin' rights got no end...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

whatever name is chosen

better b written in erasable pencil

someone is BOUND to be offended

Yeah, the Oakland Fairies would offend half of San Francisco!





And the 49ers, they stole from the Mexicans. How offensive is that???

 

[Que]

For the record, even the article - despite its veiled derision - admits that changing the team's name is "the right thing".

No, it doesn't...it was intended to be ironic. Reading nuances isn't your thing is it?

You correctly put it in quotes.

 

[RjThoughts]

Washington Tonofshits

Because daniel snyder's excuses about why he won't change the name is just that, a ton of shit

 

[Que]

Washington Tonofshits

Because daniel snyder's excuses about why he won't change the name is just that, a ton of shit

I hope I convey a lack of snark in this question, RJ:

Do you think the name would have as visceral a reaction for you if your Grandmother had not taken the time to correct you?

You shared your experience with the strong reaction your Grandmother had to your youthful experimentation with the word. I would imagine that experience would be formative. I am picturing that in a similar vein many African American Grandmothers have rebuked their offspring for using the "N' word, regardless of its intended usage or connotation.

I am re-thinking my stance on it a bit when I read that the term came from the color of the underside of scalps, rather than what I had always assumed that it referred to a sun-baked ruddy complexion.