Sobering thoughts from someone who should know

The U.S. government should use force to stop violent insurgents. I’m surprised you find this controversial.
If people take up arms against the United States, our government is justified in using violence to put down the rebellion. That's been true for the entire history of the republic, as was amply demonstrated by the Civil War.
No one took up arms against the United States on J/6. Perhaps you should read about Kent State before you push the use of force against American citizens.
 
No one took up arms against the United States on J/6. Perhaps you should read about Kent State before you push the use of force against American citizens.
They beat officers with whatever they had. Dragged them down concrete steps.
 
No one took up arms against the United States on J/6. Perhaps you should read about Kent State before you push the use of force against American citizens.
A mob stormed the Capitol in an attempt to overturn the 2020 election. While they were poorly armed, it was still a violent attack against the government. Ashli Babbitt disobeyed direct police instructions. It's regrettable she was killed, but what else could the officer do?
 
Where were you and your force against insurgents idealism during the summer of 2020 when the Left was decrying Trump using force against violent protestors by pushing them back so he could walk from the WH to the church across the street? Or when the States declined his offer of National Guard troops to help quell the violence that was burning down State and Federal courthouses and buildings?

Or are you saying that burning down a Federal courthouse isn't in the same category of insurgency as listening to a speech and then going to protest on capitol hill? That all the looting and arson amounting to BILLIONS of dollars in losses is equal to someone stealing Pelosi's laptop and gavel? That multiple MURDERS are ok when compared to a shaman wearing horns on his head walking around inside the capitol while being escorted by security? Or that the death of Michael Brown by police isn't equal to the death of Ashli Babbitt by a police officer? Are you saying that all of those people who did those things should just go on about their lives while Trump, who did NONE of that, should get the death penalty and his supporters should have FORCE used against them?

Don't be fucking absurd and try to tell us that those things are different. What you're really saying is that you only want to use force against conservatives and Republicans and anyone else who doesn't agree with you. This no longer is about right or wrong, it's about you using force to shut up those you don't like based on ideology.

What you don't understand, or maybe you do because you WANT another civil war, is that this will only lead to more hate and division and eventually the people will have had enough. Already there is soft talk about no longer complying. About how we, as Americans, have a duty to throw off the yoke of oppressive tyranny and reestablish a representative government which will obey the limits of its creation and which will safeguard the liberties of the people.

What you hear by that sort of talk is the sound of the drums of war in the distance. And here you are talking about how the GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE USING FORCE to oppress the dissenters even more.

You, and everyone else who thinks/acts/talks like you do, is an idiot. War isn't pretty and no one comes out on top. Ask the people of Ukraine if you don't believe me. Millions will die if your dreams come true. Life and the planet will be forever changed, and the changes may not be what you, or I, want.

And here you are, cheering that on.

I'll say it again, you, and everyone who thinks/acts/talks like you do, is an idiot.
Your guy incited an insurrection.

The end
 
They beat officers with whatever they had. Dragged them down concrete steps.
How many law enforcement people were killed during the so called peaceful protests in 2020, more of your selective outrage. No one on the right condoned the violence on J/6 but you leftist stand atop your self righteous bully pulpit and accuse conservatives of being anti American, just refusing to acknowledge that conservatives were just as outraged by the events of J/6.
 
How many law enforcement people were killed during the so called peaceful protests in 2020, more of your selective outrage. No one on the right condoned the violence on J/6 but you leftist stand atop your self righteous bully pulpit and accuse conservatives of being anti American, just refusing to acknowledge that conservatives were just as outraged by the events of J/6.
I've yet to witness a single conservative being outraged over the actions of the mob on January 6th.
 
How many law enforcement people were killed during the so called peaceful protests in 2020, more of your selective outrage. No one on the right condoned the violence on J/6 but you leftist stand atop your self righteous bully pulpit and accuse conservatives of being anti American, just refusing to acknowledge that conservatives were just as outraged by the events of J/6.
Deflection is fun.

Either talk of what happened on J6 or don't. When challenged, you ignore my point and cry about the left.

Your statement is incorrect. They had weapons of opportunity and they used them to storm the Capitol
No one took up arms against the United States on J/6. Perhaps you should read about Kent State before you push the use of force against American citizens.
 
Deflection is fun.

Either talk of what happened on J6 or don't. When challenged, you ignore my point and cry about the left.

Your statement is incorrect. They had weapons of opportunity and they used them to storm the Capitol


Now it’s weapons of opportunity. The whole truth of what happened J/6 is still buried underneath a whole bunch of lies.

Crying about the left! It’s the leftists lit lunes that time after time associate people who voted for Trump as anti American insurrectionist. I’ve always wrote that if Trump is guilty of criminal behavior then let the chips fall where they may. Your hatred for Trump has totally eroded any sense of objectivity.
 
Now it’s weapons of opportunity. The whole truth of what happened J/6 is still buried underneath a whole bunch of lies.
Yes, the key word is weapons, which you said they didn't have. Do try and keep up. They had weapons and they used them. Your statement is incorrect.

Crying about the left! It’s the leftists lit lunes that time after time associate people who voted for Trump as anti American insurrectionist. I’ve always wrote that if Trump is guilty of criminal behavior then let the chips fall where they may. Your hatred for Trump has totally eroded any sense of objectivity.
People who showed up to obstruct Congress's Constitutional obligations in order to further the plan of inserting fake electors are insurrectionists.

Trump is a piece of shit, but the evidence gathered shows that he worked with others to have his VP reject valid certifications, insert fake electors who favored him and possibly declare martial law if things went south. I look forward to this being publicly disclosed in a court of law.
 
Yes, the key word is weapons, which you said they didn't have. Do try and keep up. They had weapons and they used them. Your statement is incorrect.


People who showed up to obstruct Congress's Constitutional obligations in order to further the plan of inserting fake electors are insurrectionists.

Trump is a piece of shit, but the evidence gathered shows that he worked with others to have his VP reject valid certifications, insert fake electors who favored him and possibly declare martial law if things went south. I look forward to this being publicly disclosed in a court of law.
I've yet to witness a single conservative being outraged over the actions of the mob on January 6th.
Being ignorant suits you.
 
I'm shivering! The inflation reduction act--GUILTY? Lower prescription drug prices--GUILTY!
Higher gas prices-guilty!… high inflation-guilty!… open borders-guilty!…high interest rates-guilty! Trump sighs executive order to lower prescription drug-guilty!…I could go on but what’s the use.
 
Like millions of Americans…I have.
What’s your opinion Trump’s plan to use the mob on January 6th to interfere with the vote count so Joe Biden wouldn’t be declared the winner of the election? It very nearly happened, which would have ended democracy in America.
 
If found guilty, ban any Trump or Biden family member from ever holding public office and impoverish them! Never allow them to make political contributions ever again. Remove their freedom of speech as well!

Yup, that should do it
 
If people take up arms against the United States, our government is justified in using violence to put down the rebellion. That's been true for the entire history of the republic, as was amply demonstrated by the Civil War.
Day drinking is apparently Harpy’s thing
 
What’s your opinion Trump’s plan to use the mob on January 6th to interfere with the vote count so Joe Biden wouldn’t be declared the winner of the election? It very nearly happened, which would have ended democracy in America.
Nothing is going to end democracy in the United States except if we the people surrender our rights, allow a justice department to go rogue. When the DOJ, the justice department and legal framework of our government ( judges )interfere with attorney/client privilege, exhibit creative prosecution or trample over separation of powers then democracy dies on the vine. The constitution was created to protect us against our government.
 
Nothing is going to end democracy in the United States except if we the people surrender our rights, allow a justice department to go rogue. When the DOJ, the justice department and legal framework of our government ( judges )interfere with attorney/client privilege, exhibit creative prosecution or trample over separation of powers then democracy dies on the vine. The constitution was created to protect us against our government.
Amen brother. So talk to your tribe and deny trump a second time. If he somehow gets in the USA is kaput.
 
Amen brother. So talk to your tribe and deny trump a second time. If he somehow gets in the USA is kaput.
I’ll ask you a question, why were 2 felony tax evasion violations by Hunter Biden ( 2014/2015) allowed to run out the statute of limitations. I’ll tell you why, if taxes were filed the source of income would have to be identified which would have implicated Joe Biden and the firing of Shokin. I’ve written a while back that Shokin was on to corruption activities at Burisma, Trump’s inquiry into Burisma was spot on. Hunter Biden’s plea deal was arranged by both the prosecution and the defense. A pretty much all encompassing immunity deal hidden in a diversion document should those attorneys should be prosecuted for fraud on the courts. All attorneys involved should be prosecuted and lose the license to practice Law.
 
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