MoveOn.org In Support Of Boko Haram

[Ulaven_Demorte]

There we go, another favorite tactic, straight to the false equivalency.

Now the whole conversation can be about terrorism here so that Boko Haram can go its merry way, because the real enemies of the left are under every rock, sheet and tree in Amerikkka...

Man this is the stuff of Rev'rund Wright and you're right, it just keeps getting funnier...

I was in the Wright Church,
But it musta been the wrong pew...

When someone makes the stupid claim that all terrorists are Islamic then they should expect to have non-Muslim terrorists thrown back in their faces. The conversation IS about terrorism, moron. The OP insinuates that the State Department should have designated the group a terrorist organization two years before the current fiasco, ignoring of course the numerous reasons why that was a bad idea. Including the fact that the Nigerian government and dozens of experts thought that it was a bad idea.

 

[miles]

What is with you people being on the wrong side of every fucking issue? It's like a mental illness.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

They know who the biggest threat to them is.

Those of us who deny that the iPhone is proof positive of an evolved egalitarian culture that has outpaced actual human behavior and created superior people via really fast communicative ability which is why we Tweet the Bokonists with pleas of pretty please which will enlighten them and move them to release their Christian Hostages...



... all we need is a little conflict resolution; some quiet diplomacy and leadership from behind.

(And anybody who says anything different just want boots on the ground. :nods: )

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

They know who the biggest threat to them is.

Those of us who deny that the iPhone is proof positive of an evolved egalitarian culture that has outpaced actual human behavior and created superior people via really fast communicative ability which is why we Tweet the Bokonists with pleas of pretty please which will enlighten them and move them to release their Christian Hostages...



... all we need is a little conflict resolution; some quiet diplomacy and leadership from behind.

(And anybody who says anything different just want boots on the ground. :nods: )

Holy run-on sentence Batman.

Tell you what Cap'n, why don't you tell us what YOU think should be done.

 

[Que]

Why is it that all of the "Western Religion is oppression" liberals seem to accept that even the most peaceable of mosques do not condone liberal ideas?

It's seems as if it's OK for them to be oppressive to women because that is "their culture."

Why aren't all liberals SCREAMING about the evils of Islam?

They seem to fear no backlash from Jews and Christians.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Diversity is the celebration of Oikophobia


Oikophobia

Xenophobia is fear of the alien; oikophobia is fear of the familiar: "the disposition, in any conflict, to side with 'them' against 'us', and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably 'ours.' "

The oik repudiates national loyalties and defines his goals and ideals against the nation, promoting transnational institutions over national governments, accepting and endorsing laws that are imposed on us from on high by the EU or the UN, though without troubling to consider Terence's question, and defining his political vision in terms of universal values that have been purified of all reference to the particular attachments of a real historical community.
The oik is, in his own eyes, a defender of enlightened universalism against local chauvinism. And it is the rise of the oik that has led to the growing crisis of legitimacy in the nation states of Europe. For we are seeing a massive expansion of the legislative burden on the people of Europe, and a relentless assault on the only loyalties that would enable them voluntarily to bear it. The explosive effect of this has already been felt in Holland and France. It will be felt soon everywhere, and the result may not be what the oiks expect.
Roger Scruton, British philosopher

 

[miles]

... all we need is a little conflict resolution; some quiet diplomacy and leadership from behind.

(And anybody who says anything different just want boots on the ground. :nods: )

Anyone who thinks any different is a fucking Nazi racist!

 

[miles]

Why is it that all of the "Western Religion is oppression" liberals seem to accept that even the most peaceable of mosques do not condone liberal ideas?

If they ever took over it's the liberals' heads who would roll first.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Indeed.

Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.
Frédéric Bastiat

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Why is it that all of the "Western Religion is oppression" liberals seem to accept that even the most peaceable of mosques do not condone liberal ideas?

It's seems as if it's OK for them to be oppressive to women because that is "their culture."

Why aren't all liberals SCREAMING about the evils of Islam?

They seem to fear no backlash from Jews and Christians.

If you actually listened to anything outside of the echo chamber of the right you would know that liberals are very much against the very things you mention with regards to the Islamic religion (and other religions). The difference being that we don't dump all Muslims into the same pot with fundamental Islamic terrorists and proclaim "Muslim bad".

If Islam were trying to force their beliefs onto the American public through enacting laws (they aren't, no, sharia isn't being codified into law here despite the histrionic spew of folks like Dizzybooby) then there would be as much push-back against them from the left as there is to Christians trying to legislate their religious beliefs.

I see no proposed legislation to force women to wear a Hijab. But I see plenty trying to tell a woman what she can do with her body with regards to reproduction. I see plenty trying to tell same sex couples that they are "less than", and can't be married.

 

[Que]

...and since you see 'plenty of them' that disagree with your sense of morality, that is sufficient to lump them all together....

...but one must always keep an open mind about Islamists even though you don't see 'plenty of them' or really any of them..agree with your world view.

Being pro-Islam is really just veiled anti-Jewish rhetoric. It's like saying you have a black friend...with regards to Muslims, you allow that there must be SOME good ones in that other band of Semites.

I'm betting you don't like bankers either.

Like saying though you don't approve of the 'extremist Nazi's" you feel it unfair to lump them all in together.

 

[Que]

If they ever took over it's the liberals' heads who would roll first.

....these things happen "over there" and one shouldn't look down on the practices of indigenous peoples...

Unless they are Israelis...they have only been there since 1948, so clearly we need to tell them from here what it is they should do to structure their society.

I love them co-opting the term "Echo Chamber" as their own. The right can as is evidenced by these threads take in, filter and reject bad ideas. The left cannot even hear them expressed.

This is why Left Radio in all its attempts fail. There are only so many ways you you can dress up their tired old failed arguments. The bulk of their material is 'look how smart we are, and how dumb the hayseeds are." Even their choir gets bored.

Left blogs do OK because they get click counts, but the time on page is minimal...people check in, have their biases confirmed, cut and past for some keyboard argument they are involved with and move on.

 

[bra_man69]

If they ever took over it's the liberals' heads who would roll first.

Just look at Venezuela, that says it all.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Look at what transpired in Syria.

We decided that Bashir was so evil that he had to go (btw, in case no one has noticed, he's "winning.")

When our Islamic allies gained control of an area, they began killing Christians and burning them out of their homes. Assad, at least, was protecting them. But HE's the bad guy...



... no wonder Vlad is selling himself as the protector of the faith and defending Assad.

 

[Que]

...pretty remarkable they would want to be associated with anything even tinged with supporting these guys...

OH, well up untill this little incident,,,they weren't THAT bad...who knew?

as if these particular Muslims SUDDENLY added a little radical spin to their otherwise benign system of beliefs.

Their actual name is something like the "Organization for teaching of only Islam and Jihad."

Pro Tip: If Jihad appears in the title, it isn't a yoga class.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Nor is it an outreach program...

 

[Que]

Nor is it an outreach program...

Well it DID seem to have something to do with education and you know if it is about educating kids it HAS to be a good thing.

That's why the like communists. All that re-education by the commissars.

 

[InJest]

Just more confirmation of liberals bizzare alignment with radical islam.

See also: the grand Republicans "war on woman" fallacy, while liberals support sharia law in civilized U.S. society and are stone blind to mercy killings of wives and daughters.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

After all, all Muslims aren't terrorists, but all terrorists are proving to be Muslim.

Sure and it's Allahu Akbar begorrah, ye demned eejit Proddy dogfucker!

 

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[Sean]

Yes, do throw us the 0.1% that aren't Muslim.

The IRA are Muslim? Shining Path are Muslim? Black September are Muslim? ETA are Muslim? You're a fucking idiot.

 

[cjh]

BB isn't killing or terrorizing anyone, nor is he breaking the law, counselor.

So?

His positions are still morally reprehensible.

Q is absolutely right. You're a racist.

And BotanyBoy is right. You're rudderless.

 

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