I think men do want more on average. The comparison to gay men's sexual activity and access to sexual encounters is a very good point. One a gay acquaintance of mine pointed out years ago. Gay men get to have the sex most heterosexual males are denied. This was because of a majority of women's sexual desires being less. Unlike men though, i as a woman have had (lots of occassions) and can have sex without being into it or aroused. The article quoted in the first post, it lays out the reasoning. But a flaw in it is i think it alludes to older generations and to specific women who are visiting therapists.
The top cause of death for women under 45 is men.
This is an outright, and common, lie.
"The leading causes of death among women ages 20-44 in 2021 were unintentional injuries (led by poisoning* and motor vehicle accidents), COVID-19, cancer, heart disease and suicide."
* (poisoning in this case is accidental tho some is suicides not noted that way.)
See also https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2018/all-races-origins/index.htm
The ONLY period in a woman's life where homicide makes the top 10 is in the 20-44 bracket, and it's #5, not #1. It's 7.2% of deaths. Men are murdered, overall, at about 3.5 times the rate of women.
It's true that the women in that bracket have higher odds of being murdered by an intimate partner, about 2.5 women a day. Of course 1.5 men a day are murdered by female intimate partners.
"Of the estimated 4,970 female victims of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter in 2021, data reported by law enforcement agencies indicate that 34% were killed by an intimate partner." (Bureau of Justice figures) That's 1,689 women. Or about .05% of women in the US.
BoJ also notes the number of both IPV assaults and homicides have been falling steadily & sharply for women since 1993, another thing with a lot of these bogus stats is that they often use old numbers.
The injury statistic is similar bullshit, auto accidents, child abuse (again FAR more commonly from the mother), work related injuries, falls, etc are more common. The parroted statistic about domestic violence being the leading cause of injuries is a manipulated stat that only applies to 15-44 y/os and that's significant because it includes familial violence for the teens.
Fun fact, it's the #3 cause for men 1-19 at 16.9% (highest % for any gender and age bracket), and surprisingly a huge percentage of that is male children under 12 murdered by their moms (the overwhelming number of child murders in the US). For men 20-44 it's #4 at 8.8% and as noted a significant number of those are female partners killing them... a figure that doesn't reflect all the women who talk another guy in to killing someone for them.
Point being tho, it's almost never random strangers for women and casual sex one time encounters as described are unlikely to change that.
Also, lowest rates of sexual activity AND highest rates of IPV are among lesbian couples.
Highest rates of sex & lowest rates of violence among gay men.
So I don't know why every time women discuss this they throw out misleading or often outright false stats about violence, and ones that fall apart even further when you look at things like race (if you look at only white, Asian, and non-Hispanic women those stats drop like rocks, something like 75% of the homicide deaths fall in one demographic), income (worse outcomes the lower in income), place lived (tied to poverty as well as resources), etc., to say "well we'd have just as much sex as men if they weren't so dangerous!" I'm literally more likely, by HUGE margin, to be murdered by a random guy in a bar parking lot (and I'm an older white guy who doesn't go to bad neighborhoods) than pretty much any woman, regardless of race or other factors, is to be murdered for refusing to give a guy her phone #. Hooking up for a one nighter is probably even less of a risk.
It's outright anti-male propaganda not based in facts and the stats on lesbian relationships pretty well put the lie to it. There are MULTIPLE other factors. In fact you can compare to other countries where the rates of any of these things are far lower than the US, like say the Scandinavian countries, and women have LESS sex and FEWER partners there even tho it's safer.
It's weird... women really REALLY want to insist they have the same, or higher, sex drive in the face of all evidence & any time they're challenged all they do is say "it's men's faults!" and back it up with slander.
Then again, I looked at your posting history and... yeah, I'm not surprised. I'm sure you're going to attack me, dismiss all my stats, and call me some sort of misogynist but you're simply not dealing in facts.
One other reason that women may appear to want sex less often is how many men are as unfuckable as this guy.
"The leading causes of death among women ages 20-44 in 2021 were unintentional injuries (led by poisoning* and motor vehicle accidents), COVID-19, cancer, heart disease and suicide."
* (poisoning in this case is accidental tho some is suicides not noted that way.)
See also https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2018/all-races-origins/index.htm
The ONLY period in a woman's life where homicide makes the top 10 is in the 20-44 bracket, and it's #5, not #1. It's 7.2% of deaths. Men are murdered, overall, at about 3.5 times the rate of women.
It's true that the women in that bracket have higher odds of being murdered by an intimate partner, about 2.5 women a day. Of course 1.5 men a day are murdered by female intimate partners.
"Of the estimated 4,970 female victims of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter in 2021, data reported by law enforcement agencies indicate that 34% were killed by an intimate partner." (Bureau of Justice figures) That's 1,689 women. Or about .05% of women in the US.
BoJ also notes the number of both IPV assaults and homicides have been falling steadily & sharply for women since 1993, another thing with a lot of these bogus stats is that they often use old numbers.
The injury statistic is similar bullshit, auto accidents, child abuse (again FAR more commonly from the mother), work related injuries, falls, etc are more common. The parroted statistic about domestic violence being the leading cause of injuries is a manipulated stat that only applies to 15-44 y/os and that's significant because it includes familial violence for the teens.
Fun fact, it's the #3 cause for men 1-19 at 16.9% (highest % for any gender and age bracket), and surprisingly a huge percentage of that is male children under 12 murdered by their moms (the overwhelming number of child murders in the US). For men 20-44 it's #4 at 8.8% and as noted a significant number of those are female partners killing them... a figure that doesn't reflect all the women who talk another guy in to killing someone for them.
Point being tho, it's almost never random strangers for women and casual sex one time encounters as described are unlikely to change that.
Also, lowest rates of sexual activity AND highest rates of IPV are among lesbian couples.
Highest rates of sex & lowest rates of violence among gay men.
So I don't know why every time women discuss this they throw out misleading or often outright false stats about violence, and ones that fall apart even further when you look at things like race (if you look at only white, Asian, and non-Hispanic women those stats drop like rocks, something like 75% of the homicide deaths fall in one demographic), income (worse outcomes the lower in income), place lived (tied to poverty as well as resources), etc., to say "well we'd have just as much sex as men if they weren't so dangerous!" I'm literally more likely, by HUGE margin, to be murdered by a random guy in a bar parking lot (and I'm an older white guy who doesn't go to bad neighborhoods) than pretty much any woman, regardless of race or other factors, is to be murdered for refusing to give a guy her phone #. Hooking up for a one nighter is probably even less of a risk.
It's outright anti-male propaganda not based in facts and the stats on lesbian relationships pretty well put the lie to it. There are MULTIPLE other factors. In fact you can compare to other countries where the rates of any of these things are far lower than the US, like say the Scandinavian countries, and women have LESS sex and FEWER partners there even tho it's safer.
It's weird... women really REALLY want to insist they have the same, or higher, sex drive in the face of all evidence & any time they're challenged all they do is say "it's men's faults!" and back it up with slander.
Then again, I looked at your posting history and... yeah, I'm not surprised. I'm sure you're going to attack me, dismiss all my stats, and call me some sort of misogynist but you're simply not dealing in facts.
The CDC, FBI, and DOJ stats spell that out, it's things like falls, auto accidents, etc. It's not IPV. The insistent effort is always there to say so.Splitting hairs here, but those statistics don’t say how many of the “accidental” deaths of women 20-45 are cause by men.
If half of the deaths caused by “accidental injuries” are caused by men and a majority of homicides are caused by men then men would be the sources of the leading causes of death for women - just as @KatieDoes sites.
It would be interesting to see the stats for accidental causes and homicides by men/women.
100% predictable! Exactly what I said you'd do.
That part's actually valid. But modern birth control's lifted the majority of that burden and women's behavior has remained largely unchanged. As I noted in my other post, if you look at other countries like the Scandinavian ones where there's free birth control, easy access to abortion, HUGE social safety nets, guarantees of employment protection, day care, WAY lower instances of any form of violence towards women, etc. - in other words, the lowest costs & risks - the number of partners & amount of sex still doesn't go up.
That's a separate stat, I quoted it but didn't link it. For instance as I mentioned, and I actually said 15 but the real number is 12, the rate of injuries is only highest for women in that 20-44 bracket, they use "cheats" to make the numbers higher like going to to domestic violence to the age of 12 where it's family members, not partner IPV, to make the overall numbers look higher. And what no one likes to talk about is that by far most serious, including fatal, child abuse is inflicted by mothers, custodial & non custodial.So those stats you provided don’t include non-fatal IPV?
See also my edit about the "unintentional injuries" bit.So those stats you provided don’t include non-fatal IPV?
You're not wrong about that, altho men also drive more, which changes the stats. After age like 35 as more women drive & drive more frequently (I know like a dozen women up to 20 years my junior who didn't even get licenses until they were in their 20s) their rates of accidents (once you take out professional drivers, who're also disproportionately men) start to exceed men but it's never enough to keep up overall.
That's another automatic assumption people make, but in comparisons of single mother vs single father households the women are always more abusive and homicidal with children.
But again that stat is also because men do far more driving. It's per capita but more men drive, they drive more often, and more miles.
Would be a nice starter when chatting up a new woman..........."Hon, where are you in your cycle?"
