M-F Dominated Couple?

[Fantazmaster]

I would also love to read a story about a couple being dominated to do things that perhaps they both secretly wanted to do but had not admitted as much to each other - the kinkier the better in my mind...

Thanks for the comments,amateurscribe and glad to see you back here on Literotica.Yes that theme of secret desires is one that I have run across in quite a number of books and stories along these general lines.

One recent example is the book titled "Joanna's Surrender"written by J.W.McKenna.(Booksurge Publishing)Here is a brief synopsis:

Joanna DuPont arrives home to find her husband Ryan kidnapped by a mysterious stranger who demands she commit depraved sex acts in exchange for his freedom. But the real shock comes later when she learns the kidnapping has all been a hoax - and her blackmailer turns out to be the angry husband whose wife is having an affair with Ryan! Joanna isn't sure who she's more furious with - her blackmailer, Gene, or her husband who cheated on her. Perhaps her biggest surprise comes when Gene proves to be a much better lover than Ryan and stirs within her long-dormant desires.

 

[Fantazmaster]

Here is another very interesting story along the lines of a dominated couple.This one is titled "Sex Pirates Of The Caribbean".

One would think reading the title that this a historical story with Johnny Depp style pirates sail around shouting"Arrrgh", "Avast" and "Shiver Me Timbers".Actually this story entails a modern day couple who charter a private sailboat and are lured into the hands of these latter day sex pirates.

Wonderfully this story is here in the Literotica Story section:

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=473515

 

[jeninflorida]

I have run across 2 stories in the Story section on Male-Female Couple Domination.(i.e such a couple is dominated) and was wondering if anyone had any experience with this subject,information or insights into this topic.Any replies will be appreciated.Thanks.

Here is a story I wrote about a college hottie staying with us:

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=262161

I also have a story about a married (sub) couple coming down from GA to stay with us. I don't think I posted this story on lit yet

 

[Fantazmaster]

Thanks for the reply,jeninflorida.I certainly hope you will share this story here on Lit, about the sub couple coming to visit.

 

[Cold_Eyes]

One of my stories has a mind controller dominating a couple by implanting false memories into the wife.

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=478346

 

[Fantazmaster]

Cold eyes,A big thanks your way for sharing this very compelling story here on the thread.I read this story and found that the theme of "divide and conquer "was well used against this couple by Jim White,the dominant in this story.

The compelling part of this story is the wife Jean confessing to numerous infidelities during the course of this very intense domination scene.Alas,did these infidelities on Jean's part actually take place or was Jean merely following White's
lead with false confessions of past indiscretions?

 

[Dvision]

My gf and myself are a sub couple. My gf is quite aloof and distant, but very beautiful. I am not so sexually orientated, more intellectual and in a way so is my gf. We are very happy in the couch with each other, reading books.

We like to make things cosy and romantic but sexually we are no toppers.

The things you read in stories or see in porn movies aren't the things we do as a couple.But yet, we both long for it, but in a way we are both too inhibitated. We both like people who are sexually very strong and are the opposite of us.

 

[Fantazmaster]

Thanks for the insights,Division,I kmow you were involved with several RPs over the years.Do you think this idea would be a sound topic for a Role Play?

 

[Dvision]

I've tried a couple of SRP with a hidden sub theme but none of them were succesfull.
I think it will be difficult...

 

[BossySon21a]

That's a favorite fantasy of mine, and it rarely appears in stories. When it does, it's usually set up with one member of the couple dominating the other and they both submit to outside control, it's rarely a husband and wife submitting together. If it turns up in a cuckold story, often there's a lot of sheer contempt involved.

Also, more often than not it's somehow forced or imposed, and I strongly prefer consensual stories, I generally find totally-non-consensual anything in stories off-putting except in very carefully handled stories, in very limited sorts of situations. (No offense to those with different tastes.)

My idea of a perfect dominated couple story would be, say, a lovingly married couple, together for years, maybe with grown kids, playfully dominated by a friend or relative. The domination might be very intense, but everybody is having fun with it, there's no contempt or disdain involved, and hubby and wifey still love each other and art still together when it's over.

Yes, I'm a sentimental softy.

 

[Fantazmaster]

I've tried a couple of SRP with a hidden sub theme but none of them were succesfull.
I think it will be difficult...

Thanks for your candor on this role play question,Division,

 

[Fantazmaster]

That's a favorite fantasy of mine, and it rarely appears in stories. When it does, it's usually set up with one member of the couple dominating the other and they both submit to outside control, it's rarely a husband and wife submitting together. If it turns up in a cuckold story, often there's a lot of sheer contempt involved.

Also, more often than not it's somehow forced or imposed, and I strongly prefer consensual stories, I generally find totally-non-consensual anything in stories off-putting except in very carefully handled stories, in very limited sorts of situations. (No offense to those with different tastes.)

My idea of a perfect dominated couple story would be, say, a lovingly married couple, together for years, maybe with grown kids, playfully dominated by a friend or relative. The domination might be very intense, but everybody is having fun with it, there's no contempt or disdain involved, and hubby and wifey still love each other and art still together when it's over.

Yes, I'm a sentimental softy.

Thanks for your input here,BossySon21a.I certainly can agree with you on the rarity of these types of stories.Most of the cuckold stories,which some correspondents have suggested to me,too often involve the wife assuming the dominant role,with husband having to assume the submissive role.

It would be interesting to hear more on this consensual domination idea of yours.I have run across several stories along these lines,usually with the 3rd party dominant being along the lines of a physical trainer,with the goal of getting the couple into much better physical shape.

 

[Dvision]

I also see the dom as some kind of teacher. The problem with sub stories is often trashtalking and/or humiliation.


Submission often starts psychologically, and preferable with a trustworthy person. The dom can be seen as an extention of the sub. The dom compensates the shortcomings of the subs.

Physical appearances don't always count for the female sub.

A good dom is familiar with the situation, the bf is not so sexually, the gf is a sub, he tells the gf what kind of underwear to wear, what kind of clothes, he tells the bf to take pictures of his gf and send them to him,
He gives instructions, like go to the city, take the subway, go to the toilet, the gf drops her panties, the bf checks if the panties are wet, text me when it is done and tell me if she is wet.......

go to the library, drop your panties under a desk, tell your bf the story and he lets me know what happened ...
got to a restaurant, go to the toilet, masturbate on the toilet, give your panties to your bf and the bf drops the gf panties in my mailbox......

things can progress,.....

 

[Fantazmaster]

Division,it certainly appears you have this scene well detailed in your mind and to that I say Bravo!

 

[tapeworm]

Thanks for your input here,BossySon21a.I certainly can agree with you on the rarity of these types of stories.Most of the cuckold stories,which some correspondents have suggested to me,too often involve the wife assuming the dominant role,with husband having to assume the submissive role.

It would be interesting to hear more on this consensual domination idea of yours.I have run across several stories along these lines,usually with the 3rd party dominant being along the lines of a physical trainer,with the goal of getting the couple into much better physical shape.

It's possible for a wife to dominate her husband while being submissive towards her master. Such a dual role on the part of the wife would allow for the couple as a whole to be under the sway of a master.

 

[Cold_Eyes]

Cold eyes,A big thanks your way for sharing this very compelling story here on the thread.I read this story and found that the theme of "divide and conquer "was well used against this couple by Jim White,the dominant in this story.

The compelling part of this story is the wife Jean confessing to numerous infidelities during the course of this very intense domination scene.Alas,did these infidelities on Jean's part actually take place or was Jean merely following White's
lead with false confessions of past indiscretions?

Thanks! Jean was making confessions that she thought were true but never really happened.

In the original draft, Tom was far more incompetent and had gotten laid off numerous times in the recent past. Jean was less faithful and used White's offer as an excuse to cheat on him. However, I wasn't entirely pleased with the story because that idea has been used so many times, even if not exactly in that way, and I wanted the couple to be dominated as a whole. If she wants to cheat, it is more like the two are dominating Tom together. I wanted both to be resistant to White's scheme at first, and I liked the idea of having a wife "corrupted" right in front of her husband. However, having her go from truly loving her husband and resisting White at first to wanting to leave Tom in the course of an hour was difficult to make realistic, so I decided to write it as mind control. But I also wanted Jean's transformation to be gradual over the course of the scene as well as seeming to come from within, so I thought the idea of having White implant false memories would be a great way to do that. Rather than becoming an sex-slave automaton for White, having her personality "overridden," she falsely comes to believe that she is a slut and so seems to think she had a choice in the matter (and makes Tom think so too) while Tom is forced to watch her gradually turn over to White as well as have all the memories that he believed were part of a strong marriage destroyed.

 

[Cold_Eyes]

I don't mean to ramble on, but in writing my last post, what makes a good story using a dominated couple or cuckolding (for me, at least) came to me crystal clear. It is all about how well the story can capture the themes of jealousy and betrayal.

Imagine a high school student who dreams of being a biologist. He pores over scientific texts and studies the subject even more than his teachers do because you love it so much. Now imagine some asshole cheats on every biology test and ends up beating his average in the class by one point but he can't prove the cheater's guilt. At the graduation ceremony, he receives the award for biology and is asked to give a speech on its importance (okay, so that's unlikely at a real ceremony, but hypothetically speaking). The student is forced to watch the cheater accept the award while he rambles on, making it clear that he's completely ignorant and self-aggrandizing.

That's the essence of what I like to see in these kinds of domination stories. The man (the student) is forced to watch as another person (the cheater) intrudes on his relationship with his wife (love of biology). The intruder undercuts all the work the man has put into the relationship and shoves this back in the man's face, usually by fucking his significant other right in front of him, maybe adding in more kinds of humiliation, like taking the SO on dates and making him tag along. The intruder is essentially making a mockery of their relationship, and the woman is either helping him (if she plays a dominant role as well) or helpless (she is submissive due to blackmail, or some other reason). He believes the intruder doesn't love his SO "the right way" (if at all) and that the intruder has done nothing to gain the woman's love or respect. Yet the intruder gets to do everything with the woman that he does, which makes him jealous and hurts his ego.

The betrayal aspect of the story, I think, comes more into play in seduction-type stories or sub-plots. Taking en_extase's "My Girlfriend's Rival" as an example, the cuckold roles are reversed but the basic idea is the same. Here the man is torn by his betrayal to his girlfriend and his girlfriend is "cuckolded." It's not a direct domination of both members of the couple, but the girlfriend is dominated in a way, because even though she doesn't know about the boyfriend's infidelity, she is suspicious about it and her thoughts become dominated by her rival as she becomes obsessive and jealous.

It would be interesting to see how many forms this basic idea could take. A male or female could dominate a hetero couple, a couple could dominate another couple, and an interesting spin could be dominating a homosexual couple. Perhaps a lesbian couple dominated by a man or a gay couple dominated by a woman.

 

[Fantazmaster]

I must say it is certainly a great thing to see the creativity apparent the past few days here on this thread,to each and all I extend a big thank you your way.But let's don't stop the ideas here,it would be interesting indeed to hear from more of you and your perspectives on this topic.

 

[BossySon21a]

I must say it is certainly a great thing to see the creativity apparent the past few days here on this thread,to each and all I extend a big thank you your way.But let's don't stop the ideas here,it would be interesting indeed to hear from more of you and your perspectives on this topic.

Here's the sort of playful fantasy-scene of this that appeals to me: a couple, call them Joe and Joan, in their late 40s, together since high school and very much love each and trust each other. The've got a couple of adult kids who've grown up and moved out, and they've been very vanilla, but they're curious.

They've got a friend who's into kinky domination scenes (probably a younger female), maybe a relative. Hmm...let's say it's Joan's little sister Kate, ten years younger and into kinky, dominant scenes. Joe and Joan know about it, have known for years, and one night when they've all had a bit to drink, their curiosity gets the better of them and they start asking her questions about it.

Katie offers to let them try a scene as her subs, just for fun, they get up their nerve and try it...and things take off from there. The domination could get intense, maybe there could even be some 24/7 play, Joe and Joan accepting a role as Katie's slaves long-term.

But one things stays constant, Joe and Joan love each other and remain that way, they're playing a game with her little sister, maybe a very intense one, but still a game for fun.

 

[Fantazmaster]

BossySon21a,there you with more of the creativity I applauded earlier!I can see a scenario like this unfolding quite nicely.For those that do not like Joan's kid sister filling the role of dominant,then perhaps a friend of Joan's could fill as the dominant character.

Along the lines of creative ideas,I got an e-mail yesterday asking if this dominated couple idea could be adapted to some sort of mystery format.That is the couple has no idea who is dominating them.I can see where such an idea could take several directions,but I told the e-mailer that I would post this on the thread here for her and see what evolves idea wise.

 

[sexymom]

Cold Eyes has an idea that's not too different from a classic cukold type story- not one of those where the husband wants to be cukolded, but instead he is, or feels, helpless.

On the other hand, BossySon has a nice, playful and loving story idea, where there is no threat or jealousy.

I like both, but I wonder if there could be a story that would incorporate elements of both. Maybe it starts as an innocent, playful fantasy but evolves into something beyond what the husband originally had in mind. He has to struggle with the consequences of something he eagerly consented to in the beginning, which then got out of control.

 

[BossySon21a]

Cold Eyes has an idea that's not too different from a classic cukold type story- not one of those where the husband wants to be cukolded, but instead he is, or feels, helpless.

On the other hand, BossySon has a nice, playful and loving story idea, where there is no threat or jealousy.

I like both, but I wonder if there could be a story that would incorporate elements of both. Maybe it starts as an innocent, playful fantasy but evolves into something beyond what the husband originally had in mind. He has to struggle with the consequences of something he eagerly consented to in the beginning, which then got out of control.

I've seen quite a few stories like that, or along those lines. Some I'm sure like them, to me it's just 'oh drat, here we go again'.

It turns into just another 'unwilling cuckold' story, a lot of 'unwilling cuckold' stories start out with the husband having a fantasy and then hating it after it starts when it gets out of hand. Many of them follow a pattern so specific I can almost predict the text word for word, right down to the contemptuous insults toward the formerly loved husband.

Like I said, I've seen many like that, but to me it doesn't work. In a story like that, I tend to find myself wanting to see the victim (i.e. the husband) get even, it turns into a different kind of story, it's no longer about a dominated couple but about something mostly unrelated (again, speaking of my own reactions). When the wife becomes contemptuous of the husband, I tend to no longer see tham as 'a couple' any more. Likewise, no amount of 'I still love you honey' is believable (to me) when combined with the kind of contempt and betrayal the 'unwilling cuckold' genre so often involves.

So to me, no, the two forms really won't combine. It's like mixing lemon juice into cleaning liquid, the combined liquid may be excellent for cleaning stuff, but we've still changed the nature of the lemon juice, it's no longer a food. :lol:

Likewise, an unwiling-cuckold story in any form is no longer a 'loving couple dominated together' story. If they are a couple in legal name only, if the wife holds him disdain, how does their being a techical couple matter? How is that any different from a nonconsensual story where the dominant gets two strangers who don't know each other from Adam and forces them to get legally married? That would be a 'couple' too...sort of. Just as much as the hot wife and her small-dicked wimp girly man. (He's almost always got a small cock. Usually th wife had no idea how bad he was at sex, too! After all, he's a wimp!) <sigh> I've seen so many stories that I liked at some point turn down that route and I almost invariably lose interest when they do.

(Note that I'm talking about the unwilling form of the cuckold story, the version where he's willing is not the same thing.)

What makes a couple? To me it's that they both want to be a couple. That's the first requirement. It's more exciting, to me, more interesting, if they've been together for a while, have some history, if they love each other from experience and not just being 'in love'. That makes them a solider, more 'coupled' couple, to me, and to me a loving, vanilla couple submitting to outside control willingly is far, far hotter than being forced.

After all, anybody can be compelled to do anything by superior force. Boring. If somebody made you do it, it's not your fault or not your credit, it was all them. I know that's exactly what appeals about the fantasy to some people, but to me, speaking only from my POV, it's boring. OTOH, Joe and Jane waking up together on the first morning after their first scene, bottoms still tender and joints sore and so excited they can barely stand it, this long-married, loving vanilla couple knowing what they voluntarily did the night before...that's hot!

 

[BossySon21a]

BossySon21a,there you with more of the creativity I applauded earlier!

Thank you. When you mentioned how rare this story-form is, this is the sort of thing that entered my mind, 'unwilling/forced cuckold' stores are rather common.

I can see a scenario like this unfolding quite nicely.For those that do not like Joan's kid sister filling the role of dominant,then perhaps a friend of Joan's could fill as the dominant character.

Sure. To me, I like the idea of the domme being female and younger, it's more taboo to me for a mature couple to be submitting to a younger woman. Having it be a sister, niece, or daughter can make it hotter for some people, and turn others off, a friend can work as well for them.

One thing about me, though...just as it's more interesting with a couple that love each other, and have a history together, I think there's an extra layer of excitement if the new domme is a relative, because that's another layer of emotional involvement, more history to mine for ideas and inspiration and excitement. If Joan is now in her late 40s and Kate is in her late 30s (ten years apart, as I said), probably Joan used to babysit Katie in her teenage days, when Katie was in grade school. Later, Joan might well have been a mentor, a guardian and protector, they've probably shopped together, bitched together, maybe got drunk together over the years. Katie might have babysat their kids, or helped take care of the place if they were both sick.

And now big sister is naked and kissing Katie's feet! Imagine the emotions laden in that from both sides! Imagine how it feels for Joan to be scrubbing Katie's kitchen floor in her birthday suit, or just a collar and leash, naked and subservient, imagine how it feels for Katie to see her big bossy protective sister doing it! It's probably payback and a source of guilt and other stuff all wrapped into one for both!

The love between them makes it more complicated, more taboo, and more fun than a stranger!

Also, even if the domme is a relative, just precisely how 'incesty' it all is can be dialed up or down, little sister Katie doesn't necessarily have to actually have sex with them to dominate them, after all. In fact, it's perfectly, completely possible to keep most of the actual sex between the sub couple, and make the story still work.

Imagine the feeling for a couple that's been vanilla their whole married life, together since high school, raised kids and been the all-American picture of conventionality, knowing Katie is watching them having sex. That alone would be a huge thing the first time, the emotions would be so complicated, even if all the dominant sister is doing is watching and commenting.

Or imagine a situation where this mature, successful couple, have to ask Katie for permission to touch each other. Imagine what that would feel like the first few times... <grin>

Or the first time Joe and Joan are on all fours, faces on the floor and bottoms in the air waiting for Katie's crop to land...maybe right in their own living room, where they used to watch TV with the kids and did their taxes, now their being whipped, in front of each other...

A favorite fantasy of mine, too, the interaction of their 'normal' life and new life. Imagine Joan is at the gym for a workout with visiting college age daughter, as they head to the locker room for a shower Joan suddenly realizes her bottom is still all marked up from the cane the night before, how can she hide it from her daughter in the locker room?!!

Joe and Joan are both horny as heck from a scene, but Katie puts each one in a different room, they're not allowed to have sex or touch each other for a month, but oh they want it so bad! Maybe if they begged her hard enough...

To me, the possibilities here are far, far greater than "Wow, look how much bigger my lover's cock is than yours, you little wimp!" :lol:

The more I think about this idea the more it appeals to me, I may try to actually write this story...maybe even with a 'no sex for Joe and Joan except between the couple' limit on it, just to see if I can make that work and keep it 'hot'. Or maybe a 'no intercourse' rule, I could imagine this pair deciding to limit that when they started the game, other stuff is allowed but they only do that one thing with each other.

 

[tapeworm]

Thank you. When you mentioned how rare this story-form is, this is the sort of thing that entered my mind, 'unwilling/forced cuckold' stores are rather common.



Sure. To me, I like the idea of the domme being female and younger, it's more taboo to me for a mature couple to be submitting to a younger woman. Having it be a sister, niece, or daughter can make it hotter for some people, and turn others off, a friend can work as well for them.

One thing about me, though...just as it's more interesting with a couple that love each other, and have a history together, I think there's an extra layer of excitement if the new domme is a relative, because that's another layer of emotional involvement, more history to mine for ideas and inspiration and excitement. If Joan is now in her late 40s and Kate is in her late 30s (ten years apart, as I said), probably Joan used to babysit Katie in her teenage days, when Katie was in grade school. Later, Joan might well have been a mentor, a guardian and protector, they've probably shopped together, bitched together, maybe got drunk together over the years. Katie might have babysat their kids, or helped take care of the place if they were both sick.

And now big sister is naked and kissing Katie's feet! Imagine the emotions laden in that from both sides! Imagine how it feels for Joan to be scrubbing Katie's kitchen floor in her birthday suit, or just a collar and leash, naked and subservient, imagine how it feels for Katie to see her big bossy protective sister doing it! It's probably payback and a source of guilt and other stuff all wrapped into one for both!

The love between them makes it more complicated, more taboo, and more fun than a stranger!

Also, even if the domme is a relative, just precisely how 'incesty' it all is can be dialed up or down, little sister Katie doesn't necessarily have to actually have sex with them to dominate them, after all. In fact, it's perfectly, completely possible to keep most of the actual sex between the sub couple, and make the story still work.

Imagine the feeling for a couple that's been vanilla their whole married life, together since high school, raised kids and been the all-American picture of conventionality, knowing Katie is watching them having sex. That alone would be a huge thing the first time, the emotions would be so complicated, even if all the dominant sister is doing is watching and commenting.

Or imagine a situation where this mature, successful couple, have to ask Katie for permission to touch each other. Imagine what that would feel like the first few times... <grin>

Or the first time Joe and Joan are on all fours, faces on the floor and bottoms in the air waiting for Katie's crop to land...maybe right in their own living room, where they used to watch TV with the kids and did their taxes, now their being whipped, in front of each other...

A favorite fantasy of mine, too, the interaction of their 'normal' life and new life. Imagine Joan is at the gym for a workout with visiting college age daughter, as they head to the locker room for a shower Joan suddenly realizes her bottom is still all marked up from the cane the night before, how can she hide it from her daughter in the locker room?!!

Joe and Joan are both horny as heck from a scene, but Katie puts each one in a different room, they're not allowed to have sex or touch each other for a month, but oh they want it so bad! Maybe if they begged her hard enough...

To me, the possibilities here are far, far greater than "Wow, look how much bigger my lover's cock is than yours, you little wimp!" :lol:

The more I think about this idea the more it appeals to me, I may try to actually write this story...maybe even with a 'no sex for Joe and Joan except between the couple' limit on it, just to see if I can make that work and keep it 'hot'. Or maybe a 'no intercourse' rule, I could imagine this pair deciding to limit that when they started the game, other stuff is allowed but they only do that one thing with each other.

You could even merge this type of storyline with a cuckold one where the female domme orders the female sub to have sex with male strangers while the male half of the couple is forced to assist the proceedings.

 

[Fantazmaster]

Cold Eyes has an idea that's not too different from a classic cukold type story- not one of those where the husband wants to be cukolded, but instead he is, or feels, helpless.

On the other hand, BossySon has a nice, playful and loving story idea, where there is no threat or jealousy.

I like both, but I wonder if there could be a story that would incorporate elements of both. Maybe it starts as an innocent, playful fantasy but evolves into something beyond what the husband originally had in mind. He has to struggle with the consequences of something he eagerly consented to in the beginning, which then got out of control.

Thanks for the ideas,Sexy Mom!Yes I can well envision things starting out innocently enough in pursuit of a fantasy in this couple's case.In fact this story reminds ofme Goethe's Sorcerer's Apprentice,who knew just enough magic to charm a broom into hauling pails of water for him,but had no idea how to stop the water hauling by the broom.The apprentice's attempts to stop the broom by attacking it with an ax only resulted in more brooms hauling more water to the point that Sorcerer's workshop was in danger of flooding.

Fortunately the Sorcerer returned to his shop and issued a magic spell that put the brooms out of the water hauling business.Now envision that this couple get this fantasy started,but as it evolves and gets out of control,well there is not really a Sorcerer of sorts to issue a spell to stop the out of control element.Or is there?