Let's talk about guns, shootings, solutions and idiotic suggestions

[Fuzzy1975]

Amen

A trained psycho person with a regular handgun has way more "killing power" than me with a Kalashnikov in each hand. And I will still fight for the freedom to carry guns, even when myself would not.

Man, is it so difficult to understand that one thing is the purpose a designer has and a different one, the applications an individual can give to that item? If you want to say things properly, even, a gun is not decided to kill people, but to throw a projectile of a particular mass and shape, with a particular speed and in a particular trajectory. What you do with such a tool, is your thing. Obviously, serves well to make damage, but can also be used for many different things, besides of the mentioned before, can nr used for sport purposes, can be used for fun, can be used to show off, can be used with minor modifications for different things. Even, it can be used for academic purposes to study ballistics, mechanics, energies, materials...

That's the whole point. Give me a rifle, and I will kill no one. Give a knife "designed to peel potatoes" to a psycho, and you can get a murder.

No strong feelings, no bad words.

*chuckles*

Well people, what do you expect from a person who can't even get basic facts correct in his/her posts....oh wait, you do get an idea, just read the claptrap above.

 

[HisArpy]

Man, is it so difficult to understand that one thing is the purpose a designer has and a different one, the applications an individual can give to that item?

Chainsaws come to mind. We should ban them. Except for their use in horror movies.

*chuckles*

Well people, what do you expect from a person who can't even get basic facts correct in his/her posts....oh wait, you do get an idea, just read the claptrap above.

Really? That's all you got, Ad Hom? Worse, it's just more of your usual F5 spin bullshit because if ANYONE hasn't been getting basic facts correct, it's you.

Maybe we should go back and revisit those Hague conventions in regards to ball ammo being the most popular ammo choice for AR's and how that somehow means that ball ammo is more dangerous than "dum dums."

Not that I'm calling you a "dum dum" or anything, but if the chambering fits...

 

[HisArpy]

It was designed to kill people. Are you that ignorant of knowledge, or are just playing the contrarian now?

Here I did a google link for you, so you can read up on the history and military contract for it......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

Lol, NOT A SINGLE REFERENCE TO THE WORD "KILL" IN THE ENTIRE WIKI ARTICLE.

Yeah, you go girl. Tell us more about all the things you say you know stuff about but really have no clue.

 

[butters]

https://www.rawstory.com/texas-law-...al-omissions-of-minors-mental-health-records/
texas fuck-up: despite it passing more stuff about mental health in background checks,
mental health backgrounds of minors not getting included

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...pc=U531&cvid=f290d2d13f874d1eb9387c18b9eeb2e0
a texas bill intended to help gun manufacturers has backfired, costing taxpayers up to an additional $500m

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Lol, NOT A SINGLE REFERENCE TO THE WORD "KILL" IN THE ENTIRE WIKI ARTICLE.

Yeah, you go girl. Tell us more about all the things you say you know stuff about but really have no clue.

*chuckles* why would there be?

The USA's soldiers don't kill, they just terminate with extreme prejudice. Figures the "Lit Lawyer" would not be able to put two and two together...

If you read the wiki references though, you find the word "kill" a whole lot....

 

[HisArpy]

*chuckles* why would there be?

The USA's soldiers don't kill, they just terminate with extreme prejudice. Figures the "Lit Lawyer" would not be able to put two and two together...

If you read the wiki references though, you find the word "kill" a whole lot....

So, wait.... you linky to a wiki article which you claim supports your statement that the AR was "designed to kill" yet now you say it's not that article which says it, it's a DIFFERENT wiki?

Are you really that mentally incompetent?

 

[phrodeau]

It should be obvious to all that the AR-15 was originally designed to trim pubic hair. Give it a try!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

So, wait.... you linky to a wiki article which you claim supports your statement that the AR was "designed to kill" yet now you say it's not that article which says it, it's a DIFFERENT wiki?

Are you really that mentally incompetent?

*chuckles*

Yes I a stating, not claiming, all military firearms are designed to kill. What do you think they are designed to do? Look nice?

Seriously, if you're a real lawyer, you should be able to find a better point to try and hang your case on than the word "kill".....

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550634981969391617

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550638473580662785

 

[butters]

so it's fine to arrest children (or even shoot them) for possession of an air gun but it's fine for the grown-ups to waltz around with ARs.

sounds about right.

 

[butters]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550634981969391617

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550638473580662785

correction officer charged with murder. didn't report it...

Dion Middleton, 45, allegedly shot 18-year-old Raymond Chaluisant in the face while he was riding in a silver Acura on the Cross Bronx Expressway around 1:30 a.m. Thursday morning, police said.

Middleton, who has been a correction officer since 2003, was arrested at the firing range where he works after he failed to report the shooting and showed up to work as normal, WABC reported. He has pleaded not guilty and was released on bail.

and they wonder why people get angry

"These very serious charges are in no way a reflection of the officers who work to keep our city safe every day," Department of Correction Commissioner Louis Molina said in a statement.

"This officer will be immediately suspended without pay, and if the charges are true, he will face the full consequences of the law and be terminated."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...707a7d4e0480fd9a94e86b114c32f#image=AAZSll3|1

 

[HisArpy]

*chuckles*

Yes I a stating, not claiming, all military firearms are designed to kill. What do you think they are designed to do? Look nice?

Seriously, if you're a real lawyer, you should be able to find a better point to try and hang your case on than the word "kill".....

Lol, you need to stop hyperventilating.

Guns can kill. That's not in question. However, they weren't "designed to kill." They were designed to be lightweight arms which can accurately expel a projectile over a distance without endangering the user.

WHAT that projectile hits, is irrelevant to the DESIGN.

Other features of the DESIGN are: Easy and fast reloading capability, comfortable and secure when in use, and above all SAFETY.

Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, you would do better if you understood that words have meanings and the words you use often do not comport with their actual meanings.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Lol, you need to stop hyperventilating.

Guns can kill. That's not in question. However, they weren't "designed to kill." They were designed to be lightweight arms which can accurately expel a projectile over a distance without endangering the user.

WHAT that projectile hits, is irrelevant to the DESIGN.

Other features of the DESIGN are: Easy and fast reloading capability, comfortable and secure when in use, and above all SAFETY.

Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, you would do better if you understood that words have meanings and the words you use often do not comport with their actual meanings.

This is almost as fucking stupid as your carbon-based post.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Guns are designed to be hip accessories without being cumbersome and water is carbon based.

 

[HisArpy]

so it's fine to arrest children (or even shoot them) for possession of an air gun but it's fine for the grown-ups to waltz around with ARs.

sounds about right.

Let's see where this went wrong, shall we?

First, THE LAW prior to the Bruen decision said that you cannot have these things in public. That's THE LAW. Thus, when the police roll up and see someone with one of these things, they're required to respond to the situation because someone is BREAKING the law.

Second, Bruen once again determined that the Constitution is clear and ADULTS have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. The fact that some misguided people seem to think that they can just override the Constitution by enacting laws which make it illegal in no way changes THE FACT that we have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. That means the police have been enforcing an ILLEGAL LAW all these years.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

This is almost as fucking stupid as your carbon-based post.

Soon he'll claim he was just "punking us"....

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Lol, you need to stop hyperventilating.

Guns can kill. That's not in question. However, they weren't "designed to kill." They were designed to be lightweight arms which can accurately expel a projectile over a distance without endangering the user.

WHAT that projectile hits, is irrelevant to the DESIGN.

Other features of the DESIGN are: Easy and fast reloading capability, comfortable and secure when in use, and above all SAFETY.

Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, you would do better if you understood that words have meanings and the words you use often do not comport with their actual meanings.

Look at this, isn't it cute....the "Lit Lawyer" thinks he's making an argument that guns are not designed to kill.....*chuckles*

 

[HisArpy]

Look at this, isn't it cute....the "Lit Lawyer" thinks he's making an argument that guns are not designed to kill.....*chuckles*

Technicalities are the soul of the law.

de·sign
[dəˈzīn]

NOUN

1. a plan or drawing produced to show the look and function or workings of a building, garment, or other object before it is built or made:
   
   
2. an arrangement of lines or shapes created to form a pattern or decoration:
   
   
3. purpose, planning, or intention that exists or is thought to exist behind an action, fact, or material object:

VERB

1. decide upon the look and functioning of (a building, garment, or other object), by making a detailed drawing of it:

TECHNICALLY, guns aren't designed to "kill." They're designed to perform a specific task with a finite lifespan before repair/replacement. Just like all machines. Certain safety devices are incorporated as part of the design to prevent harm to the operator and to ensure that the machine doesn't injure anyone else through accidental machine failure.

The specific task the machine is manufactured to do is to load and fire a projectile accurately from a storage magazine. To enable it to do that efficiently, the machine is designed to be lightweight, portable, and it's controls easily operated under all conditions.

That's it. That's the design.

HOW it's used is a different thing entirely. Unfortunately, despite all the times you've been told, you still cannot grasp the concept that whatever narrative you've been listening to in this regard IS LYING TO YOU and you're too stupid to figure it out. Despite being told repeatedly.

This is not a good look for you.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Technicalities are the soul of the law.



TECHNICALLY, guns aren't designed to "kill." They're designed to perform a specific task with a finite lifespan before repair/replacement. Just like all machines. Certain safety devices are incorporated as part of the design to prevent harm to the operator and to ensure that the machine doesn't injure anyone else through accidental machine failure.

The specific task the machine is manufactured to do is to load and fire a projectile accurately from a storage magazine. To enable it to do that efficiently, the machine is designed to be lightweight, portable, and it's controls easily operated under all conditions.

That's it. That's the design.

HOW it's used is a different thing entirely. Unfortunately, despite all the times you've been told, you still cannot grasp the concept that whatever narrative you've been listening to in this regard IS LYING TO YOU and you're too stupid to figure it out. Despite being told repeatedly.

This is not a good look for you.

*chuckles*

Nice attempt at claiming military weapons are not designed to kill humans.....I can't wait for your next attempt........"soul of the law" aside.....


I wonder what the word "lethal" could mean in relation to design, or the description of "one round in the head-took it completely off" might mean, in terms of the military trials of the AR-15.....or " Number of VC killed: 5"


https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2859676/ARPA-AR-15.pdf

I'd suggest reading pages 17-22 as a start, but there are more pages, and documents for your review as well to sort through.....

Or this document, which first line is "primary purpose of a military rifle bullet is to disrupt human tissue'.....

https://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Fackler_Articles/wounding_patterns_military_rifles.pdf

*chuckles* next you will argue "lethal injections" are not designed to kill, but to just end the persons life painlessly......

 

[jaF0]

Let's see where this went wrong, shall we?

Your daddy forgot to pull out?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550403823415734272

Seeing how the general gun mentality of this country begat its legacy here.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1551463485191495680

 

[HisArpy]

*chuckles*

Nice attempt at claiming military weapons are not designed to kill humans.....I can't wait for your next attempt........"soul of the law" aside.....


I wonder what the word "lethal" could mean in relation to design, or the description of "one round in the head-took it completely off" might mean, in terms of the military trials of the AR-15.....or " Number of VC killed: 5"


https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2859676/ARPA-AR-15.pdf

I'd suggest reading pages 17-22 as a start, but there are more pages, and documents for your review as well to sort through.....

Or this document, which first line is "primary purpose of a military rifle bullet is to disrupt human tissue'.....

https://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Fackler_Articles/wounding_patterns_military_rifles.pdf

*chuckles* next you will argue "lethal injections" are not designed to kill, but to just end the persons life painlessly......

You apparently have an issue with definitions and staying on point instead of rambling off nonsensical irrelevancies. Which, given your progressive bent and well-known stupidity, isn't all that surprising.

DESIGN isn't use. BULLETS aren't AR's. LETHAL also includes scissors. And spoons.

 

[HisArpy]

Your daddy forgot to pull out?

And the world has been better for it. Unlike the results from the offspring of other father's failure to exercise basic reproductive safety.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You apparently have an issue with definitions and staying on point instead of rambling off nonsensical irrelevancies. Which, given your progressive bent and well-known stupidity, isn't all that surprising.

DESIGN isn't use. BULLETS aren't AR's. LETHAL also includes scissors. And spoons.

Hey, you're the one claiming military weapons are not designed to kill, but instead they are designed to be safe for the user....*chuckles*
I am just pointing out ( once again) the stupidity of your argument.....