If You "Prick" Us

MSTarot

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“Do we not bleed the same ink as they?”

I'm certain that we do.

On June 5th, 1956 on the Milton Berle Show a few shakes of his hips won the 21-year old singer Elvis Presley the title “Elvis the Pelvis” and resulted in him being banned on TV, from the waist down.

On September 16th, 2011 rap singer Stefan “RedFoo” Gordy, released the video for his band LMFAO song “Sexy and I know it.” In the video, he (and the rest of the band) are dressed in silver sparkling Speedos and spend most of the video making “themselves” jiggle.

The world changes. Times move forward and once unspeakable cultural taboos become commonplace.

In November 1968, the TV show Star Trek made television history by showing the first interracial kiss. Would such a kiss even be seen as remarkable now? Of course not.

Left and right, the world of visual media has pushed at boundaries till they are almost nonexistent. Then they’ve pushed even harder. I have little doubt that in my lifetime what would have been an X-rated movie, with people in the streets carrying protests signs about its release, will be seen as regular family entertainment.

The world changes. Some say for the worst, but I can point out that burlesque strippers and often vulgar vaudeville comedians were once seen as appropriate entertainment for children less than ten years of age.

People in the entertainment industry have gone to jail, gone to court and been fined into the poor house to make those changes come about. They have fought tooth and nail to get the censorship boards to acknowledge that this is not the “Puritan” times of the 1600s.

Married couples could not be seen to be in bed together. Then they could, but they couldn’t touch in anyway. Then they could give each other a kiss, but had to sleep on separate sides of the bed. And so on and so on till now … well, full frontal is still a bit too risqué for regular TV but what was once a soft R-rating is now simply a normal show.

The world changes–erotica has not.

“Wait, what? That can’t be so. You’re mistaken MST, I’m sure of it.”

Then why is it that Erotica is being pulled from E-book providers internet-wide? Content being censored? Search engines on e-book sites modified to not find certain “Taboo” words. Level caps set on how high up a best seller list an “erotica” story can go. These things and many others have been used in the last few years to help “silently censure’ erotica.

“No, no MST that was all years ago right? Back in the days of “the Pelvis”? Back when two people of different races kissing could get a movie theater burned down. When a man kissing a man was a stoning offense. That’s not today.”

Try placing a brother-sister incest story on Amazon.

“Oh, but MST that’s just a “squicky” taboo subject. Amazon is within their rights to stop that kind of thing from being sold on their site if they so choose.”

Really?

Then they probably need to remove “The Witching Hour” by Anne Rice. “Game of Thrones” by George R Martin. “Flowers in the attic” by V.C. Andrews. “The Cement Garden” by Ian McEwan. And “The Fall of the house of Usher” by Poe while we’re at it, since it hints at incest. And just how many more? Dozens? Hundreds? Or is it even more than that?

Erotica writers, we are standing on a battlefield. Most of us just don’t hear the guns. We don’t even know we’re being shot at till we’re bleeding out. Writing is our hobby, our passion, our joy and to some our livelihood and it’s being infringed upon by the moralities of others. If it was anything else, people would be protesting on the Capitol steps.

Those shots have not just begun to be fired either, they began being fired back in the 1600-1700-1800s at authors who had to post anonymous or face serious prison time. Their books burned. Themselves, in a few famous cases, executed even for writing.

“For writing?”

Yes, and for writing what people clearly wanted to read. There is such a huge market for erotica some modern e-book providers can’t handle the volume.

“Executed for writing?”

Erotica has been called seditious, blasphemous, obscene, lewd, pornographic … but by far the worst “hate” words that have even been applied to erotica is that it is all “poorly written.”

Hacks. Smut peddlers. Trash writers. Porn writers. Yeah … that’s what they think we are. Tell people what you do and see the smiles, the grins, the condescending smirks that say without words, “You’re not a real writer.”

Because you write erotica? Not a “real” writer because what you write about is sex. How stupid, in this modern world, is that? With sex in everything around us? You can’t open a magazine, turn on a TV, see a movie, read a “Mainstream” book and not have it be there, in neon lights with flashing rhinestone pasties!

Sex sells.

Hollywood has known this since the first days of film. Hell, the film camera as we know it wasn’t in existence three years before the first moving-pictures of people having sex were taken.

So if it works so well for Hollywood, what is said about sex in erotic writing?

Anyone can write those kinds of trashy stories.

It’s just bad porn without the good video.

It’s poorly written smut.

NO!

Erotica is a lot of things but it is not that. What it is, simply as it can be described, is a style of writing.

It gets lumped together under the publishing category of “erotica” but it’s in fact not a separate type of writing. It’s not like say Westerns, or Fantasy, or Romance. (and please don’t let me get started on Romance novels, or erotica-lite as they should be calling it) Erotica is no more or less than erotic writing. You can write an erotica Western. An erotica Fantasy story. Horror. Crime Drama. Suspense. Mystery. Spy & Espionage. You name the category and you can write it more erotic and you have an “erotica” novel, novella, novelette, short story or flash.

And those books exist on “mainstream” bookshelves already.

“They do?”

Yes. And they were sold with none of the controversy our tales of simple love or complex sex arouse. Those “mainstream” author’s stories were not sold out the back of the Adult Video store in brown paper sacks to hide what had been purchased. They set proudly next to the other novels in the big name bookstores. So why are our works the victims of censorship when those “conventional” books are not being given the same critical eye we suffer under? Even though they contain the same sex scenes as ours?

“Erotica.”

The very name carries with it a stigma shadow from the days of “the Pelvis” and far earlier. And that shadow we writers shall suffer under, or embrace and make it change. The world has changed and it’s damn-well-time erotica caught up.

We are, in our most humble of words, writers. We are no-less writers than the greatest authors who put quill to parchment, pen to paper, fingers to a typewriter or to keyboards. Yet our talent is given not praise but scorn. Why? Because we continue to let it happen.

“If you prick us, do we not bleed the same ink as they?”

“If you insult our writing, do we not hurt the same as they?”

“Do we not dread a bad review, same as they?”

“And if we write it, will they not cum?”

Do not allow yourself to be sold short. Do not walk with your head down as if you’re doing something to be ashamed of. Writers have been shamed, imprisoned, even died to be able to do what you’re doing as a hobby. As a passion. As a joy. And as a profession. When someone asks you what you do, you say “I’m a writer.”

“Well, what do you write?”

“I write the stories that make your wife go buy batteries.”


M.S.Tarot
 
Meh.

Cultures come and go. Things become permissible and impermissible by turn. Sometimes there'll be a long period of liberalization, but then things will snap back (or the culture will collapse). Sometimes there will be a reign of puritanical attitudes; but then people remember that sex and rule breaking are both fun.

We're living through the trailing edge of the Changes The Internet Brought, coming after the sexual revolution. So it's been a longish period of liberalization for the western world. But there's no guarantee it's a permanent trend. Or even that it's a good one. It just happens to be what you see around you. Try not to get too excited; it won't last.

I believe there's such a thing as human nature, a sort of rough averaging across large populations of what biology has handed us, mixed with some basic rationality. Cultures bounce around, moving closer or further from this central average, in a whole lot of dimensions. When things get too far from average, something eventually snaps and we move closer to the middle again. When the middle becomes too restrictive, people wander further afield. But the middle itself doesn't move much, and won't unless we grow some new genetic material. Technology does make some difference - it's safer to have random sex than it was two centuries ago. But not as much difference as you'd think.

The roaring 20s make us look timid in a lot of ways. The 1950s make us look completely abandoned. And that's just within a measly hundred years.

X rated videos as family entertainment - not likely, or if it happens it won't last long. It's easy to rant about limited sexual freedoms and puritanical values - until you raise children and start to think about what some too-early sexual experimentation could lead to in their lives. It's surprising how fast a puritanical attitude will settle in at that point. At the end of the day, there's always a balance and a battle between freedom and safety, pleasure and sanity. Shit hits the fan if the balance is ignored for too long, and people who don't instinctively know that get to learn it the hard way - and become object lessons to others.
 
I get annoyed with the "it's for the children" argument when it really feels like an excuse for crappy parenting.

Broadcasters were reined in by one exceptionally closed-minded dickhead who couldn't figure out how to either a) change the channel on his car radio or b) forgot it had an on/off switch. Heaven forbid that his 15-yr-old son would be forced to listen to George Carlin's bit about the seven dirty words you can't say on radio or TV.

No, we can't watch our children every second of every day (nor should we want to). However, we CAN put limits on things. When our kids were youngsters, the only computer they could use happened to be in the living room where my wife and I could see the screen. And, I install tracking software on that computer. And, I would sometimes check IE's history for where they have been. See, that's a little thing I call "parenting." Same stuff my parents did when they went through my underwear drawer or found the stash of girly magazines I thought were well hidden beneath my mattress.

MSTarot, major corporations simply have too much at risk to put up with the bullshit of ultra-conservative whiners. Look at all the crap Target is putting up with right now by saying, "Hey, if you gotta go, you gotta go. Use the bathroom that matches how you look."

Meanwhile, there are plenty of sites like Literotica.com and others that provide an outlet for smut peddlers like ourselves. Will we ever get the respect? Probably not. But the internet has given us a forum. Besides, erotica is seldom financially rewarding for its creators. Cam sites may make plenty of dough, but I doubt the majority of their performers do. Pimps make more than whores.

I've heard of banks who wouldn't accept a stripper's paychecks because of where she worked. Crazy. Guess they were afraid the checks were signed with the blood of virgins while being dipped in venereal disease.

I believe we're little more than the whores who happen to enjoy their work.
 
I find it hilarious that many people see us a "smut writers" but if one name was on our book covers, we would suddenly be considered "respectable authors." Harlequin has been publishing the same stuff, very successfully, for five or six decades.

They currently have more than 32,000 titles in their Amazon store. Does the public see them as "porn peddlers" like they do those of us that dare list our writings as erotic? Of course not. Harlequin branded itself as legitimate romance at the very beginning when they were actually mass marketing paperbacks with content you would usually only find in letters to Penthouse. They found a niche with a big market vacuum and worked it. They still are! And laughing all the way to the bank every day!

I'm willing to bet their ranking and placements are happily given priority too, because, above all, Amazon is all about the Benjamins. ;)

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I find it hilarious that many people see us a "smut writers" but if one name was on our book covers, we would suddenly be considered "respectable authors."
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It's back to the age-old issue of erotica versus pornography. :)
 
Good one, MST. Erotica is porn until someone famous and making a lot of money has their name on the book cover, then it's 'literature'. :rolleyes:

I get ambivalent about my own writing. I know myself that it's erotica not porn, and I know that the review blog I run is not smutty, dirty, antisocial writing. I believe it's of value. I think sex is good and that if more people read more about sex, and came to a better understanding of their sexuality, the world would be a MUCH happier place. So a review blog which tells them where to find stories that could help them come to that understanding seems to me like a Good Thing.

At the same time, I know others may not see it like that. I have sometimes hesitated to put myself forward for things like school governor, or volunteering to support my local political representative, because I worried that if it was found out I write a review blog of erotica then the people I would work with would be publicly humiliated over it. (I am not secretive about it, although I don't wear a t-shirt saying 'I am a smut-writer' as that would be embarrassing for my Piglet).

Now I am starting to date, I worry about what men's reaction to it will be. Not writing smutty stories, I know that as long as I wait a couple of dates to tell a man that the Nice Lady he has met writes online stories about sex, he will think all his Christmases have come at once. But the review blog is more of an issue. Does a man want to be with someone who effectively works in the sex industry? If I take my review blog more seriously, will that make a man feel uncomfortable about publicly acknowledging that his partner does such work?

Still, I have been really surprised by how many people have not been shocked and horrified when they found out what I write about. Many people have taken it in their stride and said they admire what I'm doing. I have made a lot of fun friends who think it's a great thing and managed to avoid some dull work with people who would have found it shocking.

I think the world is changing. I have seen the law change to allow gay people to marry. I have seen women allowing themselves to talk about erotic fiction round the swimming pool out of earshot of the kids have lessons. Mums became MILFs, and were seen as sexy. Mums were acknowledged to have sexual fantasies and desires. That was a massive change - if mothers can have a sexuality, then sexuality is so normal.

A few individuals and individual companies try to cash in on outdated cultural conventions about sex. But we should keep writing, the world is changing and they will have to change with it or ... God forbid, lose profits! :eek:
 
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(I am not secretive about it, although I don't wear a t-shirt saying 'I am a smut-writer' as that would be embarrassing for my Piglet).

~Snip~

I dunno. Now, I'm thinking about getting one made up that says;

"I write the stuff that makes your wife send you out for batteries." - MSTarot

And if the grandkids have a problem with it, I'll ask 'em how they think they got here.

:D
 
I get annoyed with the "it's for the children" argument when it really feels like an excuse for crappy parenting.

Broadcasters were reined in by one exceptionally closed-minded dickhead who couldn't figure out how to either a) change the channel on his car radio or b) forgot it had an on/off switch. Heaven forbid that his 15-yr-old son would be forced to listen to George Carlin's bit about the seven dirty words you can't say on radio or TV.
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I've heard of banks who wouldn't accept a stripper's paychecks because of where she worked. Crazy. Guess they were afraid the checks were signed with the blood of virgins while being dipped in venereal disease.

I believe we're little more than the whores who happen to enjoy their work.

There was a reference a while ago to a book firm that reckoned it was being threatened by the Bank who claimed its shareholders didn't approve of the books. We've had cases of a similar nature in the UK (although it wasn't books).
 
Porn is boring now.

I write porn and it's not boring :D Well at least it doesn't bore me when I'm writing it.

I don't think porn is a bad word. I think we are doing ourselves a disservice when we try to say we don't write porn. Come on, if you use the words "Fuck", "Pussy", and "Cock" or any one of a thousand other sexually explicit words then you are writing porn. Nothing wrong with that. Porn is anything that is sexually explicit that is used to illicit a sexual response.

Can porn be erotica? Sure, I guess. I write porn and I'm not ashamed of it. My wife reads my porn and if it's one of my good stories, I benefit from her reading it. If not I turn on one of Kingswoman's stories for us to listen to together and benefit from that :D

Either way I certainly don't end up bored.
 
You said it MSTarot "If I write don't you cum?" If I do write and I categorise my own writing as erotica or porn and the reader doesn't get horny or enjoy it or cum, then I'm not doing my job. And if the commenters say you're not, then the number of views should either support or contradict it. You might want to add for Hypoxia and other authors who fight for their work: If you wrong me, do I not revenge? And the best revenge is a beautifully written XXX porn scene that will make a nun go get batteries.
 
Oh, I don't know. I just write what I enjoy writing and post it. I leave it to readers to read/enjoy or not and move on to the next story.
 
Being pricked is inevitable.

Bleeding is optional.

If you like you're doing, that's all that matters.

If you entertain some people along the way, even better.
 
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