How to Make Love to Ghost

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I am currently reading the ghostly new John Irvinbg novel (at 900 pages of course, toom for a lot more than ghosts). His chosts so fat are non-corporeal and only disturb the fucking. The first and pprimary ghost hhaunts the room they died in.
Having typed that, not sure how it fits the thread, but maybe someone can speed read the second half the nevel and tell us...

 

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I am currently reading the ghostly new John Irvinbg novel (at 900 pages of course, toom for a lot more than ghosts). His chosts so fat are non-corporeal and only disturb the fucking. The first and pprimary ghost hhaunts the room they died in.
Having typed that, not sure how it fits the thread, but maybe someone can speed read the second half the nevel and tell us...

This must be The Last Chairlift. The only Irving novel I've tried is The World According to Garp, which had a good start but I lost interest in it when Garp is at boarding school. I do know a bit about the rest, like the Ellen Jamesians. The latter is almost too imaginative an idea and seems both off-putting and unconvincing. So, sorry, I'm not going to be speed read the second half of the new book.

 

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With spirit?

 

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This must be The Last Chairlift. The only Irving novel I've tried is The World According to Garp, which had a good start but I lost interest in it when Garp is at boarding school. I do know a bit about the rest, like the Ellen Jamesians. The latter is almost too imaginative an idea and seems both off-putting and unconvincing. So, sorry, I'm not going to be speed read the second half of the new book.

Garp is possibly my favourite of all time. Not sure why. Maybe bevcause I started to read it on the train and plane on my way home from last year of school, so was just the right age? To read Irving with pleasure, a ceretain suspension of realit is required, but in some ways, there is a brutal honesty about not omnly infidelity and family, but tough issues like abortion (Cider House Rules) and Vietnam (Owen Meany) among other topics, The Last Chairlift takes on the early days of AIDS, plus gender politics generally. aeound each cpoorner is anotherr twist, or another open window to keep passing (nod by me to Hotel New Hampshire).
I just wish I could write as well at lengrth as Irving. Or in short stories even.
One thing Irving has with some Lit writers is ge is assused of recycling themes or "writing the same story over and over". Maybe he/they need to visit story ideas.

(I know this post is not really about Story Ideas. I will stop now. Please carry on with ghostly fun.. I'm pretty sure the Scooby gang, source of much of my ghostly fun, are not in any John Irving novel)

What about "the Soooby gang meet a tentacle monster ghost"?

 

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Garp is possibly my favourite of all time. Not sure why. Maybe bevcause I started to read it on the train and plane on my way home from last year of school, so was just the right age? To read Irving with pleasure, a ceretain suspension of realit is required, but in some ways, there is a brutal honesty about not omnly infidelity and family, but tough issues like abortion (Cider House Rules) and Vietnam (Owen Meany) among other topics, The Last Chairlift takes on the early days of AIDS, plus gender politics generally. aeound each cpoorner is anotherr twist, or another open window to keep passing (nod by me to Hotel New Hampshire).
I just wish I could write as well at lengrth as Irving. Or in short stories even.
One thing Irving has with some Lit writers is ge is assused of recycling themes or "writing the same story over and over". Maybe he/they need to visit story ideas.

(I know this post is not really about Story Ideas. I will stop now. Please carry on with ghostly fun.. I'm pretty sure the Scooby gang, source of much of my ghostly fun, are not in any John Irving novel)

What about "the Soooby gang meet a tentacle monster ghost"?

Story ideas: i guess some are implied in this post. If you wish, you could tell us about where you first heard about tentacle monsters (let's call them TMs) and what you find interesting about them. I know, it's very hard to consciously describe the appeal of one's own sexual interests/fetishes or whatever. Do you identify with TMs and wish you could actually be one (temporarily, I assume) or do you just want to see them in action?

Yep, I have a nit to pick about Scooby-Doo as well. I was a kid - actually an adolescent - when the show debuted in 1969. Let's face it, every episode had the same basic plot. However Velma seemed like an ideal (or at least a plausible) girlfriend); I especially liked how her sweater color matched her knee socks. (It would have been nice if she varied the color scheme and tried yellow or blue or something else as well). Even at my young age I could tell that Daphne would have nothing to do with the likes of me.

P.S.: I've seen porn depictions (both photos and drawings) in which Velma's panties are also orange.

 

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Oh, writing at length like John Irving: writing novels is definitely harder than short stories. The best I can do is a series, and even there I have trouble coming up with an ending.

 

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Oh, writing at length like John Irving: writing novels is definitely harder than short stories. The best I can do is a series, and even there I have trouble coming up with an ending.

there is always the classic "then they all lived happily ever after."

 

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there is always the classic "then they all lived happily ever after."

Except the world doesn't work like that. Before about 1960 (for people of my parent's and grandparent's ages) people mostly had to stay married regardless of circumstances. (Only Hollywood types like Gloria Swanson could be married six times.) Today relations between the genders are in a shambles. I'm not going to try to document that here because it's too much to describe in a forum post.

 

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Except the world doesn't work like that. Before about 1960 (for people of my parent's and grandparent's ages) people mostly had to stay married regardless of circumstances. (Only Hollywood types like Gloria Swanson could be married six times.) Today relations between the genders are in a shambles. I'm not going to try to document that here because it's too much to describe in a forum post.

The world seldom acts like the paralllel universe in which Lit stories take place... that may be why HEA remains such a popular ending. We all neeedc to dream of sugarplum fairies and cinderella.

 

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The world seldom acts like the paralllel universe in which Lit stories take place... that may be why HEA remains such a popular ending. We all neeedc to dream of sugarplum fairies and cinderella.

I'm sort of "black-pilled" in the sense that dreams like that are a distraction from what we really need to deal with. I don't aim to make my stories unnecessarily downbeat, but I try for most to get some sense of the real world into them. There is room for that on Lit.

 

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I'm sort of "black-pilled" in the sense that dreams like that are a distraction from what we really need to deal with. I don't aim to make my stories unnecessarily downbeat, but I try for most to get some sense of the real world into them. There is room for that on Lit.

So, no Santa subbing in for the woodsman to rescue Red?

 

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So, no Santa subbing in for the woodsman to rescue Red?

You mean Little Red Riding Hood. I just read a version of that online. It's truly a strange fairy tale; hard to believe that it was intended for kids. I'm not surprised at how often it shows up as a porn trope.

By the way, when my parents warned me to be wary of strangers, I always wondered why, what would they do?

 

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Wasn't the idea of "sliming" invented by the writers of the original Ghostbusters, or did it exist before that?

See Charles Richet on wikpedia , the gent who coined the term ‘ectoplasm’ in the early 1900’s. His take was that spiritualists & mediums exuded the stuff to make spooky things happen, not quite ghost-slime, but a precursor to Slimer et Al.

 

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See Charles Richet on wikpedia , the gent who coined the term ‘ectoplasm’ in the early 1900’s. His take was that spiritualists & mediums exuded the stuff to make spooky things happen, not quite ghost-slime, but a precursor to Slimer et Al.

There may be some truth in paranormal phenomenon, but there are a lot of frauds, errors, and plain wishful thinking in the field too. I don't know if we'll ever get definitive proof that ghosts and such really exist.

 

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List of possible ghost-luvvin’ tactics
- possessed and seduced/mind-controlled into sex
- D&D’s ghost touch, being a magical ability to physically interact with the immaterial world
- psychokinesis - do you like it when I stroke you there?
- if ghosts have kirlean aura, and humans do too, there may be an interesting crossover
- voudou/Santeria/animist beliefs & practices
- shared hallucination/illusion or even virtualization for more tech-friendly ghost types
- true name magics - "Deborah Ferroe, I demand your immediate overwhelming orgasm!"
- rune or sale circle or cold iron or gem traps, further manipulated into sexy-times. Carved gemstone sex toys, perhaps?

Probably many more out there…