Fascism is a violent and non-humanistic sub-set of Socialism

[Karen Kraft]

Are you like freaking desperate for attention? Why are you resurrecting these days old threads?

Why do you bump threads you don't like?

Desperate for attention? Or perhaps you want to say something.


No.... that can't be. All you have is snark.


Any thoughts regarding the topic of the thread?

 

[JABcomix]

Why do you bump threads you don't like?

Desperate for attention? Or perhaps you want to say something.


No.... that can't be. All you have is snark.


Any thoughts regarding the topic of the thread?

You're right, I have no thoughts regarding this thread. Go at it, unimpeded. Have fun.

 

[Karen Kraft]

You're right, I have no thoughts regarding this thread. Go at it, unimpeded. Have fun.

Sure.

So anyway, as we now see, fascism does not originate with the bourgeoisie but with the socialist movement.

 

[ccwalt]

Karen, you don't have a boyfriend do you?

 

[JABcomix]

Karen, you don't have a boyfriend do you?

Dude, do not fuck with the lady's thread! You're going to make me bust my gut, damn you!

 

[ccwalt]

Dude, do not fuck with the lady's thread! You're going to make me bust my gut, damn you!

I apologize.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Beginners stop. Advanced may continue:

During the 1920s and 30s, because such little practical difference existed between fascists and Bolsheviks, critics of Hitler's National Socialism routinely called it, National Bolshevism. Needless to say the Bolshevists got all pouty and pissed off to have to share the same bed with the fascists and invented their very own “agency theory” of fascism. (Any of you eve take this stuff in school? No? Okay, let’s continue. So the Comintern established the 1930s version of “inherited from Bush;” “end of the day” mantra that fascism must immediately and forever more be associated with capitalism and thereby, per formal Stalinist/Leninist dogma, fascism became the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinist, and most imperialist elements of finance capital. That dumb tune played over and over and over again and is still popular with the left today! Imagine that! Although there is nothing to suggest it is true, leftists insist (via snark and ad hominem fallacy, of course) that fascism is a necessary component of capitalism. Needless to say the critics of the socialist gospel get tagged as fascists through this little joke for half-wits.


In his book, The Road to Serfdom, Friedrich August von Hayek (recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 1974), Hayek remarks that, during the 1930s, the propagandists of both parties recognized the relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa and how university professors in the U.S. and Britain noticed that students returning from study in Germany could not decide whether they were Marxists or fascists, but were certain only that they hated, Western Civilization. But I guess that’s one of those Nobel Prize LOL moments. What does Hayek know, right? If he’s so smart, why’s he dead, right? RIGHT?

But what do I know? I bet I can find an online dictionary that proves me wrong in some sort of really cool WIKI-WAY (not to be confused with Mikey Way…)

You should have posted just this. People who could understand it would read it, and be saved from reading what they know already. The rest wouldn't have understood the fore-part, anyway.

Both systems are about controlling people: about making them dependent on some arbitrary authority for their lives. Both are the antithesis of Liberty.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Fascism is socialism.

With a "national" slant.

Sign up. We've got a war to keep you employed...

 

[Karen Kraft]

Fascism is socialism.

With a "national" slant.

Sign up. We've got a war to keep you employed...

Yup.

There's the ticket.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Okay, Obama was so popular because he opposed the war in Iraq.

That was one reason I thought he was cool.

Now... he's just switching everything to Afghanistan?

Are you fucking kidding me?

The Russians are RIGHT THERE, and they couldn't handle it.

Obama's just a fucking tool.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Meanwhile, back at the base, he's trying to get passed a bill supposedly "fixing" health care that he didn't write, hasn't read, and apparently doesn't know anything about.

What the fuck?

Is he trying to tie with Jimmy Carter for the "worst President ever" title?

 

[where]

Fascism is socialism.

With a "national" slant.

Sign up. We've got a war to keep you employed...

except for that pesky thing about private ownership and all people being equal

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Fascism is socialism.

With a "national" slant.

Sign up. We've got a war to keep you employed...

That's like saying that Communism is Capitalism, with a "collective" slant.
Socialism is without a doubt a left wing ideology..

According to Cornell University your definition of Fascism is a bit off, it being a primarily right wing ideology..

Fascism:
a philosophy or system of government that advocates or exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, together with an ideology of belligerent nationalism.

Princeton also seems to disagree..

Fascist - an adherent of fascism or other right-wing authoritarian views

 

[Byron In Exile]

Are you like freaking desperate for attention? Why are you resurrecting these days old threads?

Because she felt like it.

I've brought up threads from five years ago because I felt like it.

Stop whining and crying, or we'll have to stick a bottle in your mouth.

 

[where]

That's like saying that Communism is Capitalism, with a "collective" slant.
Socialism is without a doubt a left wing ideology..

According to Cornell University your definition of Fascism is a bit off, it being a primarily right wing ideology..

Fascism:
a philosophy or system of government that advocates or exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, together with an ideology of belligerent nationalism.

Princeton also seems to disagree..

Fascist - an adherent of fascism or other right-wing authoritarian views

don't bother. the wingnuts won't have it any other way.

 

[Byron In Exile]

except for that pesky thing about private ownership and all people being equal

It's a mirage, under Fascism. The state has total control.

What is the meaning of "ownership"? You own a thing and can dispose of it as you wish? Under Fascism, the state can say that you can't.

And the people are only as equal as the state says they are.

The state can make the troublesome people "go away."

Then everyone really is... "equal."

It's just a levelling operation. It's faster.

 

[Byron In Exile]

That's like saying that Communism is Capitalism, with a "collective" slant.
Socialism is without a doubt a left wing ideology..

According to Cornell University your definition of Fascism is a bit off, it being a primarily right wing ideology..

Fascism:
a philosophy or system of government that advocates or exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, together with an ideology of belligerent nationalism.

Princeton also seems to disagree..

Fascist - an adherent of fascism or other right-wing authoritarian views

No, it's not.

Capitalism, unchecked, would reduce most of humanity to slaves over time.

But, Communism can reduce them to slaves immediately.

So... we walk the line.

These... textbook definitions you're posting tell me you aren't clear about the terms.

"Cornell University" can go on about whatever. Someone's paying them, and whoever's paying them influences what they say. Do you understand? It's about money. That's Capitalism.

 

[Karen Kraft]

except for that pesky thing about private ownership and all people being equal

No, that does not change.

Please read my earlier post regarding this topic.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

No, it's not.

Capitalism, unchecked, would reduce most of humanity to slaves over time.

But, Communism can reduce them to slaves immediately.

So... we walk the line.

These... textbook definitions you're posting tell me you aren't clear about the terms.

"Cornell University" can go on about whatever. Someone's paying them, and whoever's paying them influences what they say. Do you understand? It's about money. That's Capitalism.

Of course.. If the definition of a word conflicts with what you want it to mean them obviously someone's paying "them" to slant the definition.. Nevermind that "them" is well, everyone but you.

 

[Karen Kraft]

It's a mirage, under Fascism. The state has total control.

What is the meaning of "ownership"? You own a thing and can dispose of it as you wish? Under Fascism, the state can say that you can't.

And the people are only as equal as the state says they are.

The state can make the troublesome people "go away."

Then everyone really is... "equal."

It's just a levelling operation. It's faster.

Don't bother. Communists like KillBill are not capable of understanding what you are saying. They are discards.

 

[where]

It's a mirage, under Fascism. The state has total control.

What is the meaning of "ownership"? You own a thing and can dispose of it as you wish? Under Fascism, the state can say that you can't.

And the people are only as equal as the state says they are.

The state can make the troublesome people "go away."

Then everyone really is... "equal."

It's just a levelling operation. It's faster.

fascism and big business has always operated very happily and big business can also dictate how government can function because although fascism essentially appeals to the lowest common denominator which by nature is zenophobic and insular, it happily greases the palm of corporations and has no issue with private ownership of the means of production. in fact it encourages it.

socialism by its very definition is opposed to the means of production being in private hands. I know you americans have an odd definition of what socialist means, given the way it's constantly applied to a centrist politician like obama, but the actual definition of socialism is just that. Socialism also has as its ideological basis the notion that everyone, irrespective of colour, race, gender or religion is an equal. these two key issues are anathema to a fascist.

No, that does not change.

Please read my earlier post regarding this topic.

I did. you are still wrong.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Bam-Bam is a socialist -- and an illegal alien.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Nobody can deny that Bam Bam turned out to be a socialist and a public menace.

OH, by the way:


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Utter horseshit. I had nothing to do with your facebook account getting banned.

What I suspect happened is that you treated the terms of service at Facebook just like you treat the terms of service here at Literotica.com, i.e. "advisory in nature", and you were subsequently banned for violations.

But since you're the sort of person who refuses to accept responsibility for his/her actions, you had to blame someone, and I happened to be convenient.
Maybe Mr. Kraft is just pissed because everyone found out about his penis.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Great site:

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/01/liberal-fascism-response.html

 

[RojUpNorth]

Great site:

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/01/liberal-fascism-response.html

But liberals and Democrats are the exact opposite of fascists. They are the good people. Nazis and other lying Republicans are the fascists.