MoonlitDreams
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Lovecraft, you took the words right outbof my mouth. The book is pure garbage, written by an illiterate sex starved housewife. I didn't make it past the middle.
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And without BDSM he would have tried something else. Maybe something where he would have had more luck.
In any way, I believe 50 Shades of Grey, despite the stupid portrayal and the public spotlight, is doing the BDSM communities a favor. Because only when your next door girl masturbates to 50 Shades of Grey, BDSM will become publicly acceptable.
For all I know, maybe.
What, you never heard of cops getting offended by cop portrayals in the media? I have friends who are burlesque dancers who were highly offended by the musical Burlesque. I have nurse friends who are offended by the portrayal of nurses and doctors in Grey's Anatomy. This is no different. Keep the snark to yourself.
It would be a favor if portrayed even remotely accurately.
All this book portrays is a wealthy sadistic stalker who takes advantage of (and has to pay on op of that) a naive girl and a virgin to boot. No responsible dom does that.
So no favors are being done here. None at all. My wife works at a shelter for abused women and I volunteer there as well teaching a self defense course.
There are already too many "Christian Grays" in this world.
this man was a piece of shit sadist using his abusive childhood as an excuse to hurt women.
Want to be portrayed that way?
It is not even published as erotica. Erotica does not get sold at stop and shop in kiosks.
Tell you what, try this. Find someone you know has no lifestyle experience at all and has read Shades. Now link them to stories here you feel are good examples of BDSM
My money says those stories will not excite them in the least, they will be too much for them.
Shades is not opening the door to real BDSM its opening the door to even more sick sadists to lure women into it.
But not because it's going to confuse the week minds of innocent women, but just cause I think it was a badly written book and will be badly acted porn.
I've been thinking about this for a while. 50SoG has managed to get BDSM into the media in a way I've never seen it. On one hand, this could be good, right? It seems like it could warm people up to the lifestyle. On the other hand, it's not well written and seems to promote BDSM, but not the way it's actually practiced.
So, is it just that it's badly written and promotes abuse? Or are some people against it because it puts kink out there and "ruins" it for long time participants? Are there BDSM hipsters that just don't want other people to understand?
I'm not saying I think the book is good, and I'm not calling everyone a hipster. Just curious on thoughts and feeling about this.
Lovecraft, you took the words right outbof my mouth. The book is pure garbage, written by an illiterate sex starved housewife. I didn't make it past the middle.
Lovecraft worries that sick sadists (male) will lure innocent virgins (female) in under the pretext of being young wealthy handsome sadists boys-with-broken-wings. And a helicopter.
This is a most worthy experiment, herr professor. We must find a young, innocent (female) intern to attend and keep notes.
Lovecraft worries that sick sadists (male) will lure innocent virgins (female) in under the pretext of being young wealthy handsome sadists boys-with-broken-wings. And a helicopter.
I don't think the threat is anything so absurd; rather, that people are embracing the idea that this is love, that you can slap the label "Dominant" on an abusive partner and suddenly it's good kinky fun. You don't need to be supermodel-gorgeous with a helicopter to be a creepy stalker who refuses to respect boundaries, but popular romance novels about such people does give your garden-variety creepy stalker a greater licence to operate. And the predator's licence to operate is something we should be wearing away at, not reinforcing.
There is a wildly popular male writer who has done more to promote that notion than any romance writer possibly could;that you can slap the label "Dominant" on an abusive partner and suddenly it's good kinky fun
Let's say it this way:
Plato already wrote 4000 years ago that art (in any form) can be dangerous, because it acts as a kind of role model and that therefore art needs to be heavily censored, to prevent people from being led astray. There should only be "good" art.
And this repeats all the time with mediocre variations:
Letterpress printing is bad - everyone will be able to publish stuff without much effort, no matter how stupid and insane!
Blogs are bad - everyone will be able to publish stuff without much effort, no matter how stupid and insane!
I'm not saying you are wrong per se - or that Plato is wrong per se. I'm saying: This is not the culture we have created and this is not the culture we want to have.
If you actually look at what women say, there is some sort of received wisdom thing that a REAL Dom is caring considerate and kind. I would bet you that, because of the community emphasis on communication and education, women leave abusive Doms faster than they leave abusive spouses.