Leaving marks

My Dom and I enjoy very hard paddling with exquisite stinging pain. However, the paddle leaves no marks and we would like to experiment with caning so as to have a reminder of our passion visible on my backside for several days afterwards. I would appreciate any advice on how to proceed. How long will such marks last? Is caning more or less painful than a paddle with holes in it?
Is it dangerous? Is it fun?

Caning is wonderful. It is also not something you just pick up and start whacking away with....caning takes a bit more skill to do safely. I have been seriously scarred from canings gone bad. The marks from a good caning can last for weeks though. I can't really compare a paddling to caning...the type of pain is extremely different. More focused, more intense.

Unless your Dom has experience with the cane, please take it slow, learn how to use the implement and what to look for in a good cane, and practice on a pillow first.

sandyb said:

My Dom and I enjoy very hard paddling with exquisite stinging pain. However, the paddle leaves no marks and we would like to experiment with caning so as to have a reminder of our passion visible on my backside for several days afterwards. I would appreciate any advice on how to proceed. How long will such marks last? Is caning more or less painful than a paddle with holes in it?
Is it dangerous? Is it fun?

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All right, I'm still awake so I'll try and answer this. How long the marks last depends on how hard he hits you, what material the cane is made from and how thick it is, and how your skin responds to marking. An average? A week for medium strokes, longer if he breaks the skin. The marks are cool when you look at them up close: is isn't a single stripe: it's two narrow stripes very close together.

Pain is a very subjective thing. Nothing anybody relates about their personal experiences with this is likely to apply to you, but I'll try. Most people I talk to think caning hurts more than a paddle, even one with holes. I'm of the opposite persuasion: I find wooden paddles, particularly the holed ones to be a worse type of pain than that of a cane's. Cane pain is very different than paddle pain: it's much sharper--some would say shocking--than a paddle's whack. Unlike a paddle, you often don't feel the stroke on impact, it takes about a half second before the sensation reaches your brain, and then it sinks in, getting worse and worse. Some people call that the burn, and it lasts from anywhere between 20 seconds to a minute or more.

Because of the burn, a lot of caners use a slow style: one hit, let it sink in, another hit in another spot, wait, and so on. It hurts particularly bad to be caned on the "sweet spot" (where the buttocks meet the thighs). Again, my experience has been a little atypical: I've mostly experienced rapid caning, often on the same spot until the skin breaks, the kind that makes your throat hoarse. I don't recommend that to start out with. :/

Dangers? Mostly emotional, in my experience. A good number of submissives I've known have had strange phobic reactions to canes that didn't seem to have anything to do with how bad they hurt but more to do with something in their past or maybe something they associated the cane with. You probably won't but it's something for your dominant to watch for the first time. Is it physically unsafe? Not really, unless he runs at you from a distance with a very thick long bamboo cane like they do in Singapore and then hits you right on your kidneys. If your paddles are wood or leather with a steel shank, they will do a lot more injury if they come down on the wrong place than will a cane.

Oh, one more thing: the sound a cane makes as it comes down and then contacts is really cool and it's easy to develop a fetish for it.

If canes ever get boring for you, try a carriage whip sometime. For some reason the latter feels worse to me, maybe because you're mostly hit with just the tip rather than the shaft?

Paddles and canes have 2 different sensations, more if you compare types and thicknesses etc. As to marking, that will depend on your body and how you mark. For us it is frustrating at times as I am one who no longer marks easily, even though my skin is as soft as it ever was. With a hard caning, skin broken as well, the marks can disappear within the hour, rarely last more than a few hours. Both these pics were taken during sessions and resulted in broken skin, but all the bruising and marks were gone by the following morning.

Catalina

I'm going to put in a word here for the old leather belt, aka the strap, doubled over.

The paddle and the cane are very different IMHO. We introduced the cane for the first time last time we got together. 3 strokes was all I could take - nearly said my safe word. But the marks were gone in less than a day.

The paddle I can now take for long periods of time - but the marks stick around for several days.

Looking forward to more work with the cane.

I would suggest going slow. And yes - it is dangerous and fun.

TaintedB said:

Oh, one more thing: the sound a cane makes as it comes down and then contacts is really cool and it's easy to develop a fetish for it.

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*choking on coffe*

Really cool!!!! read that as really scary for some of us.
Just hearing that noise can make me cry, beg and plead, it does not matter if it lands. Crops on the other hand....

rosco rathbone said:

I'm going to put in a word here for the old leather belt, aka the strap, doubled over.

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Again its the noise that gives me unpleasant shivers before it lands. Although, for me personally, it is an easier pain to cope with than the cane.

*Sits very very still and watches RR and that belt*

catalina_francisco said:

. Both these pics were taken during sessions and resulted in broken skin, but all the bruising and marks were gone by the following morning.

Catalina

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Here's my theory, which I recommend taking with a big grain of salt. I say our skin is "intelligent," and certain spots on it pick up on the fact after a few months or a few years that they are going to get beat all to hell. So, they figure out how to heal faster. You could always test my scientific theory by asking your master to beat you in a place he normally doesn't, and then see if the marks go away as quickly.

rosco rathbone said:

I'm going to put in a word here for the old leather belt, aka the strap, doubled over.

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The nice thing about a belt is that you can hit someone very, very hard with it and pretty much for as long as your arm will hold up without sending them to the hospital (assuming you don't use the metal buckle part, that is) or even making them pass out from pain. (and yeah, belts sound nice too )

But I think if you are lazy or tired, a cane is the way to go because you can usually get truly spectacular results with just a tiny flick of the wrist.

Why do you like belts, Rosco?

TaintedB said:

The nice thing about a belt is that you can hit someone very, very hard with it and pretty much for as long as your arm will hold up without sending them to the hospital (assuming you don't use the metal buckle part, that is) or even making them pass out from pain. (and yeah, belts sound nice too )

But I think if you are lazy or tired, a cane is the way to go because you can usually get truly spectacular results with just a tiny flick of the wrist.

Why do you like belts, Rosco?

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I am totally into the anti-toybag "work with what you got" (my number one precept in life) thing. WHen it is time to administer a whippin, pa just gets the ol' strap. Anything else smacks of "torture tools" to me---gives me the creeps. It took years for me just to buy your basic wrist and ankle restraints.

rosco rathbone said:

I am totally into the anti-toybag "work with what you got" (my number one precept in life) thing. WHen it is time to administer a whippin, pa just gets the ol' strap. Anything else smacks of "torture tools" to me---gives me the creeps. It took years for me just to buy your basic wrist and ankle restraints.

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I think I understand what you are saying, but "work with what you've got" and "creeped out by torture tools" seem sort of contradictory to me because some of the most horrific tools are pretty ordinary, always-around items. Car anteneas, electric cords, razor blades, rubber tubing, pliers, hammer, cigarette lighter, soldering iron, hell, even a hairdryer is pretty painful if used in certain ways.

Good point.

rosco rathbone said:

Good point.

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You weren't supposed to say that. You're supposed to argue back and prove me wrong no matter what the cost (to you). Don't you know by now how online dominants are supposed to act? :0

rosco rathbone said:

I'm going to put in a word here for the old leather belt, aka the strap, doubled over.

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ah the belt...one of my worst enemies. Daddy is not a bdsm toy kinda Man either, so usually if he uses something other than His own body, it will be his belt. i hate the belt. the sound of it sliding thru his belt loops....knowing what's coming. if he uses the smooth end, it will burn like fire...for me the worst kind of pain is a stingy pain. if he uses the buckle end, it's bone jarring. Daddy's fave belt is his Dolce and Gabana (sp?)...i think he likes seeing the "DG" (which also happen 2 be his initials) from the buckle stamped all over my body for days. did i mention i hate the belt?

TaintedB said:

Here's my theory, which I recommend taking with a big grain of salt. I say our skin is "intelligent," and certain spots on it pick up on the fact after a few months or a few years that they are going to get beat all to hell. So, they figure out how to heal faster. You could always test my scientific theory by asking your master to beat you in a place he normally doesn't, and then see if the marks go away as quickly.

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They do.

Catalina

catalina_francisco said:

They do.

Catalina

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Have you tried the upper arm? It's a good place for this sort of spot test. I'm curious because I have tried this as a test. My upperarm ones linger.

rosco rathbone said:

I am totally into the anti-toybag "work with what you got" (my number one precept in life) thing. WHen it is time to administer a whippin, pa just gets the ol' strap. Anything else smacks of "torture tools" to me---gives me the creeps. It took years for me just to buy your basic wrist and ankle restraints.

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Yummy with the mindfuck that way, too. Can't even be bothered with more than the bare essentials to get the job done. Very primal, bestial sadism.

Although the use of tools specifically designed for no other reason than to inflict pain is yummy on another line of thought entirely...guess pros both ways.

make sure he knows' what he's doing if u decide to play with a CANE

TaintedB said:

Have you tried the upper arm? It's a good place for this sort of spot test. I'm curious because I have tried this as a test. My upperarm ones linger.

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Been just abut over the whole body and only thing which lasts anytime (and that usually requires touch ups a few times a day and is sporadic in its results) is hard biting. Even the bullwhip leaves nothing except broken skin after the first hour or so.

Catalina

catalina_francisco said:

Been just abut over the whole body and only thing which lasts anytime (and that usually requires touch ups a few times a day and is sporadic in its results) is hard biting. Even the bullwhip leaves nothing except broken skin after the first hour or so.

Catalina

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Ok, then. My scientific conclusion based on careful observation and measurment is that your skin has a genius IQ.

(Seriously, I don't know why you are that way. I don't think it is typical, but I am not a doctor. Not that you can bring such questions to most doctors, at least not in the US. :/ )

TaintedB said:

Ok, then. My scientific conclusion based on careful observation and measurment is that your skin has a genius IQ.

(Seriously, I don't know why you are that way. I don't think it is typical, but I am not a doctor. Not that you can bring such questions to most doctors, at least not in the US. :/ )

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LOL, well I actually think it might be vitamins and minerals.

Catalina

Catalina, I'm much the same way, the only bruises that last for me are from her punishment hairbrush on my thighs, and usually only if she spanks me in the "same damn spot" for 20+ time, hard and fast....(which she does, and is horrible). Otherwise, my marks fade by the next day or withen hours, except bite marks, which last a bit longer.

serijules said:

Catalina, I'm much the same way, the only bruises that last for me are from her punishment hairbrush on my thighs, and usually only if she spanks me in the "same damn spot" for 20+ time, hard and fast....(which she does, and is horrible). Otherwise, my marks fade by the next day or withen hours, except bite marks, which last a bit longer.

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Damn, the hairbrush doesn't work either for us, even with a couple that ummm, went a bit deeper than intended. This problem does encourage endurance on those less than willing days though when repeated actions on one area migh at least give me something to admire for longer than a few moments. What I find difficult to understand too, is even when the skin is broken, often the only way I know next day is through a slight roughness under my fingertips from the scarring.....is usually fairly invisible too by then.

Catalina

my dream

I love he thought of spanking or caining or whatever. I like to see the marks. I don't know if it's such a control thing with me or thought that this girl is getting of on me beating her. It really turns me on. And seeing those marks the next day gets me so hard. I knew this girl that liked it. She seemed to like anything that I did to her. I really got to spanking her one time but I stoped because I thought that it must really hurt. I suspose that if it really hurt she would have asked me to stop. When should you stop?