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jsmiam said:
I got a backtrack out of you! That is the lit equivalent of a Nobel prize. It's never happened before. I am honored! :D
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You seem to be easily honored. All along I said they were deserving dummies for trusting such a site with their personal information. That's not a backtrack. It also isn't supporting the hackers nor is it trying to evoke irrelevant scare tactics as you are doing. If you believe your Chicken Little claptrap, you really shouldn't be posting to Literotica, should you?
 
sr71plt said:
You seem to be easily honored. All along I said they were deserving dummies for trusting such a site with their personal information. That's not a backtrack. It also isn't supporting the hackers nor is it trying to evoke irrelevant scare tactics as you are doing. If you believe your Chicken Little claptrap, you really shouldn't be posting to Literotica, should you?
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You're the one who softened your original "they all deserve it" stance. Now you're reversing track again. You also didn't seem to keep track of who posted what, because first you were calling someone else a scaremonger, then me. Try to keep up!

Anyway... I can't hear what you're saying, because once you backtracked that first time, the band started playing, they released the confetti, the host presented me with my award, people I didn't know appeared out of nowhere, shaking my hand, patting me on the back, saying things like "congratulations!", "this has never happened before", "How'd you do it?", "All he does is argue pointless points, you got him to backtrack", and "Amazing", so forgive me if I'm not paying you much mind. I'm sure you'll still be online later arguing about something with someone.
 
Bramblethorn said:
Looks like the hackers weren't kidding: they've posted ten gigabytes of AM customer info.

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/happened-hackers-posted-stolen-ashley-madison-data/
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Alright, with this latest development, I'm going to go as far as saying the hackers have impressed me. They weren't in it for the blackmail; it's a full-tilt moral crusade, and by publishing that data they are risking not only jail time, but the very real possibility that some aggrieved party is going to try to track them down and blow their brains out.

I guess now we find out how untracable the Tor network really is (there was evidence the NSA had tried to compromise it at one point, but I don't know how that turned out and even if they can, tracing this isn't in their charter.)
 
I find all hacking like this revolting. I ignore hacked stories and nude pics. This is all over the Daily Mail. I scroll down and refuse to read about it. The media sites who publish all this info are just as bad as the hackers.
 
Carnal_Flower said:
I find all hacking like this revolting. I ignore hacked stories and nude pics. This is all over the Daily Mail. I scroll down and refuse to read about it. The media sites who publish all this info are just as bad as the hackers.
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Last I knew no media was carrying lists of AM data. It's available on file sharing networks, which means if you really want to check on your spouse you can, and if you don't want to see it you won't. It also means it will never go away. That's the power of file sharing (and why businesses and governments are not fans) - there's no centralized place you can go to kill the data. And the only people who are involved are those who want to be, and if they are careful they can be relatively anonymous. It's triumphant indivudualism incarnate. If you don't approve, don't download.
 
 
Just going by the front page of the Daily Mail, where it tells me all about Josh Duggar. That's naming. I haven't looked deeper into the articles, but they are reporting on things like how many government employees, etc. Analyzing the data. That's bad enough. THEY'VE downloaded and looked at it. Not sure how specific they are with names because I refuse to look.


HandsInTheDark said:
Last I knew no media was carrying lists of AM data. It's available on file sharing networks, which means if you really want to check on your spouse you can, and if you don't want to see it you won't. It also means it will never go away. That's the power of file sharing (and why businesses and governments are not fans) - there's no centralized place you can go to kill the data. And the only people who are involved are those who want to be, and if they are careful they can be relatively anonymous. It's triumphant indivudualism incarnate. If you don't approve, don't download.
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Yes, the data is out there but it is on the Dark net. I doubt one in a thousand people even know what that is and less than one in ten thousand have any idea how to get there. and those numbers may be on the very low side of things.

The Today crew had no idea what the dark net was or at least that is what was said when the news came out.

So the data is out there but not accessible to most. Your browser won't even get you anywhere close.
 
There seems to be a fair bit of attempted analysis. That city-by-city thing is a load of shit though - I bet Sao Paulo only came out on top as that's where the non-existent lovelies were based.
 
Bramblethorn said:
For anybody who still thinks leaking this data was a righteous thing to do:
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This person appears to have staked his *life* on the security of a website run by people with no credentials in security, and a sleazy business model. My sympathy is limited; there are a number of stupid ways to die and he's chosen one.

Maybe a career in software has made me cynical, but if you give out your real name online in association with anything that you don't want your mother, your government and your worst enemy to know, you are a fool. Even if AM had been run by angels who'd taken security seriously, the possibility that they'd be hacked, or bought out by someone less scrupulous, or had an internal leak from a disgruntled employee, is hardly zero. He gambled with his own life and he may have lost.

At least he's making his life a warning to others.
 
TxRad said:
Yes, the data is out there but it is on the Dark net. I doubt one in a thousand people even know what that is and less than one in ten thousand have any idea how to get there. and those numbers may be on the very low side of things.

The Today crew had no idea what the dark net was or at least that is what was said when the news came out.

So the data is out there but not accessible to most. Your browser won't even get you anywhere close.
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Not today, but eventually it will cross over from the dark web. When it does, I wonder if Google will refuse to cache it. (They probably should refuse to do so, though the argument that's it's valuable sociological data could be interesting.)

But let's face it, cheaters.org is more or less inevitable now. (Note, for all I know that site name already exists, and I'm not going to check.)
 
HandsInTheDark said:
Not today, but eventually it will cross over from the dark web. When it does, I wonder if Google will refuse to cache it. (They probably should refuse to do so, though the argument that's it's valuable sociological data could be interesting.)

But let's face it, cheaters.org is more or less inevitable now. (Note, for all I know that site name already exists, and I'm not going to check.)
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I think it has at least in part. Earlier this evening I heard a couple of websites had at least part of it available but they were all very large files.

In any case, i wouldn't download any of it. Where it came from makes me wonder what else is hidden in it. Call it hackers paranoia but some people i really don't trust and the dark web is full of them.
 
Bramblethorn said:
For anybody who still thinks leaking this data was a righteous thing to do:
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There is nothing righteous about anonymous hackers who don't have the balls to give their own names while outing others to the whole world. One wonders what the hackers private indiscretions are. You know they have them. They're human (with the apparent delusion of being God).
 
sr71plt said:
None of the parties to this have righteousness in their pocket.
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If we reduce this down to the small community level, we could say Ethel's husband Bob is cheating on her, and the neighbors on the next block know about it. Do they tell her or do they keep their mouths shut? What if Bob could pick up an STD that could give Ethel ovarian cancer? Should Ethel know about it? What if Ethel is planning a big life change based on her marriage to Bob, and Bob his planning on leaving her? Should Ethel know about it? This is the dilemma Ethel's neighbors are faced with. What if they don't tell her and she ends up dying from ovarian cancer? Wouldn't they feel guilty if that happened?

Now expand it out to the hackers and the cheaters. Is there a right thing to do? Is there a wrong thing to do? Are the cheaters blameless and the hackers the villains? 50% of marriages end in divorce, and an even larger number suffer from infidelity. Perhaps we should adopt the European approach and accept infidelity as part of the marriage compact, and promote safe sex practices so no one dies of ovarian cancer.
 
Escaping into rationalization isn't having righteousness in your pocket either.

Just a bunch of bad eggs all the way around.
 
http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/08/19/ashley-madison-hack-is-a-warning-to-ebook-retailers-libraries/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheDigitalReader+%28The+Digital+Reader%29

"No one who writes or reads erotica, for example, wants to have their personal info splashed across the web. And with everyone from Adobe (38 million accounts compromised in 2013 hack) and Target (70 million accounts compromised in 2013 hack) getting hacked, inferior data security is a real and present danger."
 
LadyVer said:
http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/08/19/ashley-madison-hack-is-a-warning-to-ebook-retailers-libraries/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheDigitalReader+%28The+Digital+Reader%29

"No one who writes or reads erotica, for example, wants to have their personal info splashed across the web. And with everyone from Adobe (38 million accounts compromised in 2013 hack) and Target (70 million accounts compromised in 2013 hack) getting hacked, inferior data security is a real and present danger."
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I don't use Adobe, I use an emulator. I don't have a Target credit card nor do I shop there. I have one debit card and that is it. small footprint and no reason for someone to hack me. In any case, at my age, who cares what I do or don't do. I had someone tell me they heard i wrote porn. I told then no, I write erotica, doesn't everyone?

No one cares.

If you are guilty of something then you made the problem and you have to live with it.
 
TxRad said:
I don't use Adobe, I use an emulator. I don't have a Target credit card nor do I shop there. I have one debit card and that is it. small footprint and no reason for someone to hack me. In any case, at my age, who cares what I do or don't do. I had someone tell me they heard i wrote porn. I told then no, I write erotica, doesn't everyone?

No one cares.

If you are guilty of something then you made the problem and you have to live with it.
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If no one cared, we would all be on Lit under our real names. :)
 
LadyVer said:
If no one cared, we would all be on Lit under our real names. :)
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Caring and taking responsibility for your own decision to read/write erotica aren't the same thing. If you are concerned about being found out, either choose to live with the risk or don't read/write erotica on the Internet. It's your personal responsibility.
 
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