fucking vs. really making love

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There's a temptation I have been unable to resist, so I am finally giving in to it: telling /my side of the story/ on the subject of making love. I tried to here and there "in dribbles", and oftentimes I earned nothing but snide remarks on what I posted. "So be it", I said to myself, you would not really expect chimpanzees to understand the thinking of Einstein either, would you?

So how do I differ from mainstream Literotica? Item one: fortunately I did not grow up in your country. I "visited" it for a while, but I declined to accept citizenship, and I am still glad about that. Because – as much as I love America, and intellectual Americans in particular – I do not connect very well to many ordinary Americans. Even though I am prepared to admit that many ordinary Americans are the most likeable people on earth for me. Maybe with the exception of certain Italians. If and when you are prepared to "overlook" their failings, like leaning much more than people in other countries to the "teachings" of organized religion.

But one thing ordinary Americans are NOT, as far as I experienced it: experts in love and erotica. It probably has to do with many Americans being religious, and the bible teaches nothing more than fucking. And procreation of course; for a while the only justification for fucking.

So no surprise that "American porn", as I have come to know it, is a mirror of American mainstream thinking. I sometimes claim that "American porn" is an oxymoron, like "Military Intelligence". It is to good porn (French or Italian) like using a hammer for screw driving. Fucking, fucking and fucking all over again, that is what American pornvids look like to me. No wonder so many Americans are hung up on the size of a penis.

IMHO, good sex begins when a couple graduates from fucking. With me it took a while as well. When they begin realizing that the vagina of a woman, and the penis of a man, do NOT possess all that many nerve endings, compared to other human organs.

Now a special case is a woman's clit. Sometimes, when the moon and the stars align perfectly, a female clit gets aroused when her man fucks her vagina. Probably happened to my first wife and me for a while, because – as far as I remember – we only fucked for fairly long. But, as I found out after our separation, for fucking to result in sexual bliss, all of the time or most of the time, the "topography" of both bodies must align more or less perfectly.

A much easier way to reach sexual bliss – so I found – comes from sex 2.0. That kind of sex needs no penetration whatsoever. Joining the vagina with the penis may happen, but that is optional. For hugging and kissing, and for looking one another in the eye, for instance, while some form of sexual union is happening.

Sex 2.0 simply involves so many more organs of the human body, and nerves not originally made for sex. Like the eyes in conjunction with the brain, for instance. I find it one of the most arousing experiences ever, to look at a woman, when we are NOT even touching each other. When we are so far away that I can take in her WHOLE body, not only part of it. When she then either looks at me with a longing in her eyes, or wears a piece of clothing, which accentuates her most erotic part(s), or when she touches herself, for instance.

When she presents a highly erotic image to me, in other words. And maybe I to her as well, although at my age that is difficult to do. Via my horny eyes for her, maybe, or by me speaking sweet or lewd words to her, which entice her. Or also by masturbating for her, showing her the reaction of my cock to her whole sweet and lovely and horny persona.

Now the strangest part of visually arousing one another: every sexual reaction takes place only in the brain. So maybe this is for nerds only? Or other intellectuals? I have never had much sexual fun, I must admit, with a woman who was not intelligent at least, and an intellectual preferable. With both of us sensing sapiosexual leanings, maybe on top of that.

And when we proceed from visually stimulating each other, and when touching begins, in various forms, we enjoy deploying "digits" very densely covered with nerves; fingertips and tips of tongues, for instance. Or, as I remember reading my dearest foe on Lit write lately, sqeezing a pointed nipple into the slit at the tip of a cock. Great idea, Jada!

I maintain that a woman's clit benefits from fucking only under exceptional circumstances, and it can be aroused much better in other ways. No wonder – for instance – that the "Cadillacs" of female love toys are the Womanizer or a Lelo toy, both of which work on the same principle.

It seems to me when a toy maker is able to charge premium prices, THAT shows how desirable such toys are. So much on the subject of big vs small dildos.

Now I do not really expect much positive reaction to this post of mine. Remembering my analogy of the chimpanzees. I don't mind either, if one or the other of you consider me arrogant. Most fans of the blonde somethingorother in the White House consider the rest of America arrogant also. Maybe that always happens to people, who dare violating the tennets of political correctness?

Nevertheless I am curious as to what yall's comments might be. Maybe I as well, can learn something new.
 
There's a temptation I have been unable to resist, so I am finally giving in to it: telling /my side of the story/ on the subject of making love. I tried to here and there "in dribbles", and oftentimes I earned nothing but snide remarks on what I posted. "So be it", I said to myself, you would not really expect chimpanzees to understand the thinking of Einstein either, would you?

So how do I differ from mainstream Literotica? Item one: fortunately I did not grow up in your country. I "visited" it for a while, but I declined to accept citizenship, and I am still glad about that. Because – as much as I love America, and intellectual Americans in particular – I do not connect very well to many ordinary Americans. Even though I am prepared to admit that many ordinary Americans are the most likeable people on earth for me. Maybe with the exception of certain Italians. If and when you are prepared to "overlook" their failings, like leaning much more than people in other countries to the "teachings" of organized religion.

But one thing ordinary Americans are NOT, as far as I experienced it: experts in love and erotica. It probably has to do with many Americans being religious, and the bible teaches nothing more than fucking. And procreation of course; for a while the only justification for fucking.

So no surprise that "American porn", as I have come to know it, is a mirror of American mainstream thinking. I sometimes claim that "American porn" is an oxymoron, like "Military Intelligence". It is to good porn (French or Italian) like using a hammer for screw driving. Fucking, fucking and fucking all over again, that is what American pornvids look like to me. No wonder so many Americans are hung up on the size of a penis.

IMHO, good sex begins when a couple graduates from fucking. With me it took a while as well. When they begin realizing that the vagina of a woman, and the penis of a man, do NOT possess all that many nerve endings, compared to other human organs.

Now a special case is a woman's clit. Sometimes, when the moon and the stars align perfectly, a female clit gets aroused when her man fucks her vagina. Probably happened to my first wife and me for a while, because – as far as I remember – we only fucked for fairly long. But, as I found out after our separation, for fucking to result in sexual bliss, all of the time or most of the time, the "topography" of both bodies must align more or less perfectly.

A much easier way to reach sexual bliss – so I found – comes from sex 2.0. That kind of sex needs no penetration whatsoever. Joining the vagina with the penis may happen, but that is optional. For hugging and kissing, and for looking one another in the eye, for instance, while some form of sexual union is happening.

Sex 2.0 simply involves so many more organs of the human body, and nerves not originally made for sex. Like the eyes in conjunction with the brain, for instance. I find it one of the most arousing experiences ever, to look at a woman, when we are NOT even touching each other. When we are so far away that I can take in her WHOLE body, not only part of it. When she then either looks at me with a longing in her eyes, or wears a piece of clothing, which accentuates her most erotic part(s), or when she touches herself, for instance.

When she presents a highly erotic image to me, in other words. And maybe I to her as well, although at my age that is difficult to do. Via my horny eyes for her, maybe, or by me speaking sweet or lewd words to her, which entice her. Or also by masturbating for her, showing her the reaction of my cock to her whole sweet and lovely and horny persona.

Now the strangest part of visually arousing one another: every sexual reaction takes place only in the brain. So maybe this is for nerds only? Or other intellectuals? I have never had much sexual fun, I must admit, with a woman who was not intelligent at least, and an intellectual preferable. With both of us sensing sapiosexual leanings, maybe on top of that.

And when we proceed from visually stimulating each other, and when touching begins, in various forms, we enjoy deploying "digits" very densely covered with nerves; fingertips and tips of tongues, for instance. Or, as I remember reading my dearest foe on Lit write lately, sqeezing a pointed nipple into the slit at the tip of a cock. Great idea, Jada!

I maintain that a woman's clit benefits from fucking only under exceptional circumstances, and it can be aroused much better in other ways. No wonder – for instance – that the "Cadillacs" of female love toys are the Womanizer or a Lelo toy, both of which work on the same principle.

It seems to me when a toy maker is able to charge premium prices, THAT shows how desirable such toys are. So much on the subject of big vs small dildos.

Now I do not really expect much positive reaction to this post of mine. Remembering my analogy of the chimpanzees. I don't mind either, if one or the other of you consider me arrogant. Most fans of the blonde somethingorother in the White House consider the rest of America arrogant also. Maybe that always happens to people, who dare violating the tennets of political correctness?

Nevertheless I am curious as to what yall's comments might be. Maybe I as well, can learn something new.

There is an assumption that the most Litsters are American. The fact is, there are a huge proportions of us who are not from that particular country. Yes, the domain is registered in the United States, and is therefore bound by its laws. Doesn't make it American.

The other issue I have is the gross generalisations of any country, especially one as diverse as the US. It's a bit rich to say "Americans are all X" when the country has over 350million people populating the fourth largest country in terms of landmass. The cultural variances, dialects, and even social norms are as wide and as ranging as it is in Europe. There are certain blanket statements that we can make about USofA, sure. However, calling every Yank a fundamentalist nutcase--in essence comparing Cascadia or New England city dwellers to rural Bible Belt--is a stretch.

I am highly critical of America, particularly with certain mentalities found in certain segments of society. But, as one who deals with concepts of identity (granted, historically, but the theory and methodological considerations are still applicable) as part of her job, this kind of gross-generalisation, verging on stereotypes, irks me.

As for the subject matter: porn is a poor indicator of cultural sexual conceptions. Porn is designed for a very specific audience, so yeah, it has the whole jack-hammering. Porn is fantasy; it's like watching/reading Harry Potter and claiming it's representative of the British political institution. We can get glimpses of social discourse and attitudes, but that's just glimpses.

Furthermore, you are comparing personal erotic experiences to mass-produced porn for public consumption (no pun intended) and saying "see, this culture (ie American, whatever that means) only fucks, they do not make love". Again, it's a poor parallel. You simply cannot take one personal stance based on personal experience and claim it as a control sample for an evaluation of cultural understanding of fucking v love making/erotica by comparing it to a product whose purpose is not for intimate and personal pleasure but rather to create a fantasy.

Every woman is different, ergo every sexual experiences with a woman is different. Every clitoris is different. Again, you cannot make any assumptions about how the clit benefits under what particular circumstance.

Bottom line, I'm not half-unintelligent. You invited conversation (albeit in a preemptively derisive manner, but given the rest of the post, I can see where and why), however I'm not entirely sure what you wanted to start: a cultural comparison between various understandings of the attitudes between fucking and making love? How each person defines said categories? Reminiscing? Progression of experience? A more concrete question that grounds the various diverging trains of thought, or even a simple linking question would be useful.
 
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thank you very much, Fire Breeze.

I appreciate all your coments, and I am am afraid I must agree with much of your critique. I did in fact ganeralize way too much.

Next I cannot tell you so very precisely what my intent was for writing this post. I had run into several disagreements with (american) Litsters on several threads, so one intent was my aim to "set the record straight".

But I am wondering by now, whether that is possible, really with my post.

So take it for quite a bit of anger pouring out, combined with a plea for "better love making".

Did that answer the essence of your questions? And thanks again for responding. Ciao!
 
Seems to me that one who claims to know and understand the difference between simply fucking and intimate erotic lovemaking wouldn't be "married, ..., looking to exchange erotic mails with a woman" Can one with no integrity actually make love... or do they just continue perpetuating the fraud that they are?

I especially liked your little dig at Italians...and your sarcastic reference to the "teachings" of organized religion...implying that religion has nothing to teach...oh so blatantly displaying your own simpleminded failings. If you think religion has nothing to teach, it's because you've missed the very fundamental lessons of such things that you attack. Like adults that put down mathematics simply because the little kid they used to be failed to grasp basic understanding.

But, it's alright. It's encouraging to know that, other than us -hammering when we need a screwdriver Americans, there are plenty of others out there that are overwhelmingly ignorant.
 
I gave up on the 2nd paragraph bitch fest - and I'm not American either. Maybe you attract who you deserve.

I could, however, read fire_breeze's words all day - ahhh. :rose: :heart:
 
Seems to me that one who claims to know and understand the difference between simply fucking and intimate erotic lovemaking wouldn't be "married, ..., looking to exchange erotic mails with a woman" Can one with no integrity actually make love... or do they just continue perpetuating the fraud that they are?

I especially liked your little dig at Italians...and your sarcastic reference to the "teachings" of organized religion...implying that religion has nothing to teach...oh so blatantly displaying your own simpleminded failings. If you think religion has nothing to teach, it's because you've missed the very fundamental lessons of such things that you attack. Like adults that put down mathematics simply because the little kid they used to be failed to grasp basic understanding.

But, it's alright. It's encouraging to know that, other than us -hammering when we need a screwdriver Americans, there are plenty of others out there that are overwhelmingly ignorant.

These guys are Italian. This is but one of their songs. They are hot as hell whether singing in Italian or English. Here, you get both!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-I2WHD_xs

There is no excuse for Bock. Not a viable one anyway. Good thing I don't share his thinking. I have German friends. They're nice.

Oh and... I'm am American who isn't religious. I like sex. I like making love. I know the difference. Both have their place.
 
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I gave up on the 2nd paragraph bitch fest - and I'm not American either. Maybe you attract who you deserve.

I could, however, read fire_breeze's words all day - ahhh. :rose: :heart:

Not sure at what point I gave up but I did give up. His tortured prose gives me a headache!

Scary thought that he said he had a first wife. That means more than one. I feel sorry for them. :(
 
... It probably has to do with many Americans being religious, and the bible teaches nothing more than fucking. And procreation of course; for a while the only justification for fucking.

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Some of the sweeping statements you have made here glBock are mind-bogglingly ignorant, especially for somebody who apparently claims to be an "intellectual". I'm pleased to observe how others have already pointed out the stupidity of your racist remarks against Americans and Italians.

I slept but my heart was awake.
Listen! My beloved is knocking:
“Open to me, my sister, my darling,
my dove, my flawless one.
My head is drenched with dew,
my hair with the dampness of the night.”
I have taken off my robe—
must I put it on again?
I have washed my feet—
must I soil them again?
My beloved thrust his hand through the latch-opening;
my heart began to pound for him.
I arose to open for my beloved,
and my hands dripped with myrrh,
my fingers with flowing myrrh,
on the handles of the bolt.

From Song of Songs, chapter 5.
 
reading comments from y'all (except Fire Breeze) …

… to my original post, felt almost like you were trying to comfort a family member, who had strayed from the path of righteousness. In a way it felt touching. In addition to learning about another fabulous thing Jada is capable of doing.

But then I saw that most comments were based on total ignorance about me, and some on an apparent intent to misunderstand. Like my remarks about Americans and certain Italians: I really I like these people, but two blokes thought I had said the opposite.

There's no point in ever hoping that an actual discussion might be possible here. Except with Fire Breeze maybe; she's the only one who made some valid points. But Jada and her gang of like-minded people will always just attack someone, who voices opinions + thoughts different from theirs, so it's a waste of time to hope for understanding.

OK, I close by wishing y'all an entertaining evening. Should be fun watching how your fearless leader tries to wrangle himself out of all the crap he undertook lately, folllowed by a black woman from Georgia present a different vision of America. I am looking forward to this spectacle, anyway.
 
… to my original post, felt almost like you were trying to comfort a family member, who had strayed from the path of righteousness. In a way it felt touching. In addition to learning about another fabulous thing Jada is capable of doing.

But then I saw that most comments were based on total ignorance about me, and some on an apparent intent to misunderstand. Like my remarks about Americans and certain Italians: I really I like these people, but two blokes thought I had said the opposite.

There's no point in ever hoping that an actual discussion might be possible here. Except with Fire Breeze maybe; she's the only one who made some valid points. But Jada and her gang of like-minded people will always just attack someone, who voices opinions + thoughts different from theirs, so it's a waste of time to hope for understanding.

OK, I close by wishing y'all an entertaining evening. Should be fun watching how your fearless leader tries to wrangle himself out of all the crap he undertook lately, folllowed by a black woman from Georgia present a different vision of America. I am looking forward to this spectacle, anyway.

You *did* say the opposite and there's no denying that!

And this makes no sense.

" to my original post, felt almost like you were trying to comfort a family member, who had strayed from the path of righteousness. In a way it felt touching. In addition to learning about another fabulous thing Jada is capable of doing."

From dictionary.com: "Righteousness: the quality or state of being righteous.
righteous conduct.
the quality or state of being just or rightful:

Righteous: characterized by uprightness or morality:
a righteous observance of the law.
morally right or justifiable:
righteous indignation.
acting in an upright, moral way; virtuous:
a righteous and godly person.
Slang . absolutely genuine or wonderful:"

Of all of those definitions, I have been known to use the slang version. I'll give an example. "Dude! Be careful going into the kitchen! I dropped a whole bag of flour and now there's a righteous mess in there. It's really gnarly!" Mind you, I will say this with a surfer dude accent.

The only instance I could think of such as you describe would be something like an Amish shunning. Except! Oh wait! If they were shunned, they would be kicked out of the fold. So that's a bad example.

Anyone know of an example where someone might comfort a family member who strayed from the path of righteousness? Is there such a thing as a righteous family? Unless we are using the slang term again. And then I would in fact use it for a family with the last name of G_____ because they're all really cool people.

One daughter started out as a gymnast. The other two were dancers. I threw a party that included free dance lessons. One person didn't show up so we asked the gymnast if she'd like to join in. She wound up changing from being a gymnast to a dancer, and is now semi-famous having done a TV commercial that some of you might have seen for a popular coffee shop. The dad works for Microsoft and the mom works with children. All of them are as sweet, kind and helpful as they can be to others and just a joy to be around. Never saw the sisters fight even once. They're even a religious family too! I won't give specifics other than to say that they are Christian. But none of them go around judging people. They believe everyone is entitled to believe what they want to believe.

But I digress. "Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?" A quote from one of my favorite movies. http://www.moviequotedb.com/movies/ferris-buellers-day-off.html

O Trollio, Trollio, wherefore art though Trollio? Knock, knock, his name is Bock!

Either that or we are all suffering from his having ESL. Maybe he truly hasn't a clue what he is saying and doesn't know how to buy one. Maybe both.

ETA: No clue why Bock keeps dragging politics into his posts. My life doesn't revolve around politics. I would imagine most people's don't. At least I don't know any who do. Except for my former SIL who did hold a minor political post for a brief period of time at a local level. While she was in office, she was more involved than most.
 
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I appreciate all your coments, and I am am afraid I must agree with much of your critique. I did in fact ganeralize way too much.

Next I cannot tell you so very precisely what my intent was for writing this post. I had run into several disagreements with (american) Litsters on several threads, so one intent was my aim to "set the record straight".

But I am wondering by now, whether that is possible, really with my post.

So take it for quite a bit of anger pouring out, combined with a plea for "better love making".

Did that answer the essence of your questions? And thanks again for responding. Ciao!

Not quite. There are a few things are not entirely clear and that raises more questions.

You said that you are "afraid that [you[ must agree with much of [my] critique". Afraid of what? What is there to be afraid of? It suggests that you are feeling remorse or regret, or that the critique is somehow an inconvenience to you.
Although based on your syntax, I am going to hazard a guess that your mother tongue is not English, and that it's the language you learnt as either a teenager or as a young adult, so the above paragraph may be moot.

That said, there is a lot of discombobulated strands of thought, and I'm not entirely sure what your point(s) are. How is it a plea for better love-making (whatever that actually means)? Why is there a need for said plea? You mention setting the record straight; record straight on what? And also the anger that you have indicated? Anger towards what?

I guess I am trying to reconcile the contents of your posts, the various trains of thought with the title of the thread and your invitation for conversation.
 
Not quite. There are a few things are not entirely clear and that raises more questions.

You said that you are "afraid that [you[ must agree with much of [my] critique". Afraid of what? What is there to be afraid of? It suggests that you are feeling remorse or regret, or that the critique is somehow an inconvenience to you.
Although based on your syntax, I am going to hazard a guess that your mother tongue is not English, and that it's the language you learnt as either a teenager or as a young adult, so the above paragraph may be moot.

That said, there is a lot of discombobulated strands of thought, and I'm not entirely sure what your point(s) are. How is it a plea for better love-making (whatever that actually means)? Why is there a need for said plea? You mention setting the record straight; record straight on what? And also the anger that you have indicated? Anger towards what?

I guess I am trying to reconcile the contents of your posts, the various trains of thought with the title of the thread and your invitation for conversation.

Fire Breeze, In my native language we have one word: Korinthenkacker. I take you for being one now, and no longer the reasonable woman I perceived you as, when I read your post at first.

Yesterday I felt compelled to discss your post with you, because I find some points in it valid. Today I like to say something else:

If you don't like my post, go read a good book. Or watch the Trump speactacle on TV Tonight.
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Fire Breeze, In my native language we have one word: Korinthenkacker. I take you for being one now, and no longer the reasonable woman I perceived you as, when I read your post at first.

Yesterday I felt compelled to discss your post with you, because I find some points in it valid. Today I like to say something else:

If you don't like my post, go read a good book. Or watch the Trump speactacle on TV Tonight.
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I am familiar with the term :)

Could you please tell where I have been petty or unreasonable? Where have I been small-minded or anal retentive, as the term suggests? I have asked legitimate questions; if you wanted to engage in conversation, then engage. Ad hominem attacks are piss poor debating tools.

On the other hand, your attack on entirely legitimate points indicates that you either do not wish to have a conversation, or you just merely wanted to have people agree with you.

You claim to be an intellectual, and by all instances, open-minded. When asked to clarify, however, you attack. When valid counter-points are made or questions are being asked, you accuse the individual of being close-minded and petty—and political. So which is it? :)
 
Fire Breeze, In my native language we have one word: Korinthenkacker. I take you for being one now, and no longer the reasonable woman I perceived you as, when I read your post at first.

Yesterday I felt compelled to discss your post with you, because I find some points in it valid. Today I like to say something else:

If you don't like my post, go read a good book. Or watch the Trump speactacle on TV Tonight.
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Yep. A pathetic, resentful, bitter, lonely person lashing out at the world for having been born...as so abundantly displayed for all the world to see.

You talk in riddles that even the Riddler wouldn't understand - reason and logic, and coherent thoughts, matter.

We, too, have a word in our language to sum up those like you: DOLT.
 
Yep. A pathetic, resentful, bitter, lonely person lashing out at the world for having been born...as so abundantly displayed for all the world to see.

You talk in riddles that even the Riddler wouldn't understand - reason and logic, and coherent thoughts, matter.

We, too, have a word in our language to sum up those like you: DOLT.

carrollguy, If you cannot understand what I am writing, why don't you just simply read something else?
 
I am familiar with the term :)

Could you please tell where I have been petty or unreasonable? Where have I been small-minded or anal retentive, as the term suggests? I have asked legitimate questions; if you wanted to engage in conversation, then engage. Ad hominem attacks are piss poor debating tools.

On the other hand, your attack on entirely legitimate points indicates that you either do not wish to have a conversation, or you just merely wanted to have people agree with you.

You claim to be an intellectual, and by all instances, open-minded. When asked to clarify, however, you attack. When valid counter-points are made or questions are being asked, you accuse the individual of being close-minded and petty—and political. So which is it? :)

Quite apparently you do not understand the term. A Korinthenkacker is a nitpicker, and I just don't do nitpickers.
 
Fire Breeze, In my native language we have one word: Korinthenkacker. I take you for being one now, and no longer the reasonable woman I perceived you as, when I read your post at first.

Yesterday I felt compelled to discss your post with you, because I find some points in it valid. Today I like to say something else:

If you don't like my post, go read a good book. Or watch the Trump speactacle on TV Tonight.
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Again, I say, Fuck you Bock! What a nasty piece of work you are! Anyone can reply to your posts and no one has to agree with them.
 
carrollguy, If you cannot understand what I am writing, why don't you just simply read something else?

Because it is assumed that when one makes a post, it will be discussed. That's how the Internet works.
 
Because it is assumed that when one makes a post, it will be discussed. That's how the Internet works.

Isn't it too bad, Jada, that now someone is taking your favorite toy away from you? By simply refusing a discussion with people who have never mastered discussions in the first place?
 
Quite apparently you do not understand the term. A Korinthenkacker is a nitpicker, and I just don't do nitpickers.

According to this:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/german-english/korinthenkacker

It's fusspot or a fussbudget. Fusspot being a British term. That means a fussy or needlessly fault-finding person. A nitpicker is a person who nitpicks, especially habitually. Nitpick means to be excessively concerned with or critical of inconsequential details.

You Bock, with your tortured and rambling prose, appear to be a nitpicker. You are also a fussbudget.
 
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Isn't it too bad, Jada, that now someone is taking your favorite toy away from you? By simply refusing a discussion with people who have never mastered discussions in the first place?

Could someone explain what this means?

Thought not.

Maybe you should stick to the German board, Bock. You don't have a very good command of the English language.
 
Quite apparently you do not understand

you so don't realise the irony in that

but for the time you are amusement such has not come this way for a while

it would almost be cruel to hope you could understand
 
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