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What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

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vetteman said:
So you don't think the Obama administration doesn't cherry pick and manipulate economic numbers?
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Of course I do. What kind of question is that?

I was simply addressing one poorly-written and ill-sourced essay about the specific numbers relating population to employment. I even proposed that a better source was one by Ed Dolan, a source I ideologically disagree with, but which had intellectual honesty to it. I think you can be partisan and honest, as Ed Dolan was in his essay on the population-employment ratio, and as the anonymous cut-and-paster wasn't - the cut-and-and-paster made connections that weren't justified by the evidence.
 
vetteman said:
I was wondering why you didn't apply your scholarship as zealously when it comes to taking Obama's preposterous numbers apart.
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Why don't you nut up for a change and do some scholarship about these quote preposterous unquote numbers?

Answer: Because you're a lightweight who is just content to regurgitate conservative talking points.

Something to think about: If you'd have spent as much effort fighting the Viet Cong as you have fighting President Obama, we might've won in Vietnam.
But you didn't...and we didn't.
 
richard_daily said:
He was busy... he had a can of corn, and a dream.
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Even with the "skyrocketing" Obama food prices? Only in Vette's world is the price of food tied to the price of ass. But at least now we know why he's so concerned about the cost of food...
 
mercury14 said:
Even with the "skyrocketing" Obama food prices? Only in Vette's world is the price of food tied to the price of ass. But at least now we know why he's so concerned about the cost of food...
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I've already offered to give him a low interest loan, but he's too proud to take it.
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
Recessions are necessary to Capitalism. The fact that you do not understand such a vital and salient economic point is somewhat illuminating in regard to your argumentation.
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Total non-sequitur.


4est_4est_Gump said:
Here's what the CBO cannot do: analyze what we did not do.
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Of course they can. And so can all those Wall Street analytics firms I mentioned. What you're doing is exploiting the inherent less-than-100% certainty of the field of economics and then coming to the false conclusion that analysis isn't possible. It's a cognitive distortion which you frequently labor under.

Nobody is claiming that analysis is perfect. But when a bevy of Wall Street as well as public analytics firms all say the same thing, you better believe is carries a ton of weight. And any halfway rational person takes that weight over your Thinker blogs.


4est_4est_Gump said:
Every single entity? It actually shows no such thing.
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Every single significant entity, yes. Otherwise you would have found one with a contrary position by now, right? :rolleyes:
 
mercury14 said:
(still waiting for you to back your claim that the EPA is regulating and having no effect on the environment)
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Rightfield, where did you go? You ran away faster than Ishmael when I asked him to back his claim that the USA has several times more oil than Saudi Arabia. :rolleyes:
 
vetteman said:
I was wondering why you didn't apply your scholarship as zealously when it comes to taking Obama's preposterous numbers apart.
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Which preposterous numbers are those? Tell me them and I'll happily apply my zealous scholarship.
 
Lotta endzone dancing in this thread....lotta voodoo dollies of the American economy getting pins stuck in them by candlelight..."c'mon , Chinese real estate crash!....c'mon Greek default & Eurozone crackup...":D
 
RobDownSouth said:
Why don't you nut up for a change and do some scholarship about these quote preposterous unquote numbers?

Answer: Because you're a lightweight who is just content to regurgitate conservative talking points.

Something to think about: If you'd have spent as much effort fighting the Viet Cong as you have fighting President Obama, we might've won in Vietnam.
But you didn't...and we didn't.
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You my friend are a fucking idiot. What dumb statement. I think you owe the guy (Vetteman) a big sorry guy for that remark.
 
There were worries among economists that sentiment may have taken a hit as gasoline prices started to rise, but those fears have yet to come to fruition in the data.
Orders for long-lasting goods slid 4% in January on a month-to-month basis, the biggest fall in three years, the Commerce Department reported. Economists expected a much shallower drop of 1%. The drop may have been partially attributable to "the tendency for orders to decline in the first month of a quarter and rebound in later months, as companies firm up order books as the strength of demand becomes clearer," economists at Barclays Capital wrote in a note to clients following the report.
Echoing that sentiment, many economists said the sharp fall in January may be a blip as opposed to the start of a trend lower.
"The decline needs to be looked at in context of surprisingly strong increases in previous months, and the underlying trend remained one of robust growth," Markit chief economist Chris Williamson wrote in an e-mail.
The report is a lagging indicator, but it includes a wide variety of items, from heavy equipment, to computers, to refrigerators and figures directly into broader levels of economic growth for the first quarter of 2012.
The S&P/Case-Shiller composite index of 20 metropolitan areas shows home prices dropped 1.1% on a non-seasonally adjusted basis in December from November. Economists forecast a smaller 0.9% decline. Prices are off 4% from a previous year, also a bigger drop than the 3.6% that was expected.
The real estate market took a strong hit during the recession and has taken a long time to recover as prices have remained low, demand has remained weak and credit conditions are still tough.
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Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...ve-13k-for-first-time-since-08/#ixzz1nmHIgjT9

Oh happy days are here again the stocks are up my guy will win so let us sing a song of confidence,

HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!
 
Merc, those same numbers produce different results when you use different models...



None of it accounts for Human Action.

And that 10K joke went on for over a year. How did that work out? Fabulously.

This is the dance you guys were going when this thread began, but there is many a slip betwixt the cup and the lip...
 
Dances With Falsehoods said:
Merc, those same numbers produce different results when you use different models...

None of it accounts for Human Action.

And that 10K joke went on for over a year. How did that work out? Fabulously.

This is the dance you guys were going when this thread began, but there is many a slip betwixt the cup and the lip...
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Be a man for once and admit that you were wrong and the economy is recovering, Chief.
 
rosco rathbone said:
Lotta endzone dancing in this thread....lotta voodoo dollies of the American economy getting pins stuck in them by candlelight..."c'mon , Chinese real estate crash!....c'mon Greek default & Eurozone crackup...":D
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Actually because I'm vested in the markets and voting for Obama, I'm not at all hoping for bad things to happen...

I just understand reality and the nature of what we owe here in the Western World.

And now that they have pronounced victory, the next thing the liberals will be all about is the social justice of outrageous taxation. I can't wait for them to get what they demand.

;) ;)

I mean, I really hope, wish and pray for them to get everything they advocate for knowing now what I did not know when Bush was in office, that deficits don't matter...

:)
 
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