Guns Are Not The Leading Cause Of Death For Children

[YDB95]

It's you and your dishonest agenda-driven leftists trying to corrupt statistics with false parameters like classifying two levels of adults as "children" in order to inflate the numbers of "children" killed by guns to drive an otherwise unpopular gun control agenda.

The problem is dishonest leftists in the Biden government tried to double the numbers of "children" killed in order to lie to the American people and to gain support for an unpopular agenda.

Sorry, Reichguide, but repetition still doesn't prove the truth. The latest numbers I could find, from October 2022, show 57% of Americans want more gun control. That number hasn't been below 50% since 2014.

According to Ken Buck (R-CO), the gun problem is because of the horrible state of mental health in America, and all the drugs flooding over the southern border. So drugs are making people kill each other, but cars fatalities haven’t spiked because folks on drugs know that they shouldn’t be driving.

I guess it's progress of a sort that they seem to have given up on "it happens because taxes got too high and forced women to go against their essential natures and get jobs".

 

[HisArpy]

The problem here is that some people support widespread gun ownership and others don’t, so they turn the stats to meet their agenda.

I live in the US but am English. I support gun control and responsible ownership. There are too many out there to ban them, you just need to control them. It would be a start for the government to know who has what and for records to be computerized, surely something that ‘responsible’ owners couldn’t find egregious. Ok, so the next argument is of course the constitution. What bunch of fuck nuts thinks the founding fathers in their infinite wisdom could look into the future and work out how everything would unfold? We have amendments, these have been done when the constitution wasn’t clear enough, or didn’t meet the standards of a civilized country. It’s not impossible to amend the constitution.

Ok, kid deaths. It’s an argument that could only be had by an American that 4000 deaths is an incorrect number, that it should be 2200 and that is perfectly acceptable. I mean, those 1800 other young people did lose their lives to guns but let’s not talk about them, they were 18 or 19 with their whole lives ahead of them but who gives a fuck? And, anyways as a percent of population that’s almost zero. At this point it’s probably worth looking at gun deaths in other developed nations. Here we go… shocker, they are to all intents and purposes ZERO.

If you look at gun deaths overall America sits near the top of some of the craziest countries on earth. I like stats, I like data, they produce a simple FACT, if you care about lives you need gun control, because let’s not forget, these are real lives, they are peoples’ sons and daughters. There’s an awful lot of grief whether you use 4000, or 2200 as your number, they are both too large!

Let's get real here.

You support gun control because the culture you come from supports gun control.

It's that simple.

What you fail to understand is that American culture doesn't support gun control (to the levels we're discussing here). Why? Because America is a unique place in which the founders created the experiment of allowing the people to control their own destinies. That experiment precludes the type of controls your birth culture doesn't embrace and the founders actually rejected that mindset when they enshrined and enumerated specific Rights into the founding documents of the new nation they created.

 

[Alpine99]

Let's get real here.

You support gun control because the culture you come from supports gun control.

It's that simple.

What you fail to understand is that American culture doesn't support gun control (to the levels we're discussing here). Why? Because America is a unique place in which the founders created the experiment of allowing the people to control their own destinies. That experiment precludes the type of controls your birth culture doesn't embrace and the founders actually rejected that mindset when they enshrined and enumerated specific Rights into the founding documents of the new nation they created.

Because America is a unique place where gun ownership is more important than lives.

It’s a place where the answer to living in fear is to buy a gun to protect yourself. Where teenagers are shot for pulling into the wrong driveway or ringing the wrong doorbell, (while being the wrong color).

The UK chose to ban guns, America struggles to even talk about gun control.

 

[Rightguide]

The age of 18 is a federal standard for voting. Everything else is negotiable.
Thats why 16 year old people of color are often "charged as adults".

Here's a case where two young black men are being charged as adults:

What we know about the Dadeville, Alabama, mass shooting​

Two teens have been charged in the mass shooting at a Sweet 16 party that left four dead and dozens injured.

By Nicole Narea@nicolenarea Updated Apr 19, 2023, 2:02pm EDT

Two teens were charged Wednesday with reckless murder in the mass shooting at a 16th birthday party in Dadeville, Alabama. The Saturday night shooting left four dead and 32 others injured.

The teens, 17-year-old Ty Reik McCullough and 16-year-old Travis McCullough, will be tried as adults. In a press conference Wednesday, authorities did not elaborate on their motives or provide any new details as to what happened. Under Alabama law, “reckless murder” involves “extreme indifference to human life” and a suspect that “recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death” to another.

Mike Segrest, district attorney for the Fifth Judicial Circuit of Alabama, said at the press conference that there were be additional charges to come in relation to those who were injured, including four that remain in critical condition.

More here: https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/4...e-alabama-mass-shooting-sweet-sixteen-shooter

We know why this case isn't on the 24/7 news cycle, don't we?

 

[Rightguide]

Because America is a unique place where gun ownership is more important than lives.

It’s a place where the answer to living in fear is to buy a gun to protect yourself. Where teenagers are shot for pulling into the wrong driveway or ringing the wrong doorbell, (while being the wrong color).

The UK chose to ban guns, America struggles to even talk about gun control.

It's the home of the brave where strong men and women are armed and few care about what other lesser cultures think.

 

[Rightguide]

Because America is a unique place where gun ownership is more important than lives.

It’s a place where the answer to living in fear is to buy a gun to protect yourself. Where teenagers are shot for pulling into the wrong driveway or ringing the wrong doorbell, (while being the wrong color).

The UK chose to ban guns, America struggles to even talk about gun control.

You tried to ban guns here too, but we took issue with that and we still take issue with it because we know that without our arms we'd be talking funny and obsessing over tea and a "proper" crumpet.

 

[Bray123]

You tried to ban guns here too, but we took issue with that and we still take issue with it because we know that without our arms we'd be talking funny and obsessing over tea and a "proper" crumpet.

When did the UK try to ban guns in the US?

You just made that bullshit up.

 

[phrodeau]

When did the UK try to ban guns in the US?

You just made that bullshit up.

British General Thomas Gage tried to seize the colonial arsenal at Concord in 1775.

To Sarah Palin and Rightguide, that’s “banning guns.”

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's the home of the brave where strong men and women are armed and few care about what other lesser cultures think.

No, we're just suicidally stupid.

 

[Rightguide]

No, we're just suicidally stupid.

You're too impaired to know one way or the other.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It's the home of the brave where strong men and women are armed and few care about what other lesser cultures think.

Nah it's the home of idiots like you,enablers of the innocent deaths of multitudes of your fellow citizens by firearms. I hope you are not the victim of what you support.....well not really....but Canadians are a polite folk.

 

[Alpine99]

It's the home of the brave where strong men and women are armed and few care about what other lesser cultures think.

‘Home of the brave’ - but you need a gun to be ‘brave’.
‘Lesser cultures’ - oh boy, don’t really know where to start unpicking that one. Fewer than 40% of Americans own a valid passport so most only experience other cultures through Tv, if they’re so inclined. It’s based on this poor world knowledge that America mistakenly believes it’s the best place on earth. There is a lot to like about America, but when it gets it wrong it sure likes to double down on it.

 

[Alpine99]

This brave you mean?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...ts-girl-after-basketball-rolls-into-his-yard/

 

[YDB95]

We know why this case isn't on the 24/7 news cycle, don't we?

It has been in the news, even on the other side of the world. What's wrong with you?

 

[YDB95]

You tried to ban guns here too, but we took issue with that and we still take issue with it because we know that without our arms we'd be talking funny and obsessing over tea and a "proper" crumpet.

You who always accuse others of knowing nothing about history, you really ought to know the Revolution had nothing to do with guns. It was about taxes.

 

[HisArpy]

Because America is a unique place where gun ownership is more important than lives.

It’s a place where the answer to living in fear is to buy a gun to protect yourself. Where teenagers are shot for pulling into the wrong driveway or ringing the wrong doorbell, (while being the wrong color).

The UK chose to ban guns, America struggles to even talk about gun control.

No. At the time of the founding of the Unites States of America, guns were tools which were used to save and protect lives. The founders understood the importance of the people being able to respond to threats against their lives and livelihoods. Thus guns are not "more important than," they were and are "necessary for the preservation of."

What the UK decided to do is irrelevant because this is AMERICA BABY!! It ain't the UK and if you don't like the way we do things here, you can always take your wussy crybaby ass and go back home. No one will miss you.

 

[HisArpy]

You who always accuse others of knowing nothing about history, you really ought to know the Revolution had nothing to do with guns. It was about taxes.

You should understand that it wasn't about taxes, it was about whether we would submit or not to the harmful and capricious whims of those who thought they could abuse the citizenry with impunity. It wasn't about taxes, it was about everything.

 

[Rightguide]

‘Home of the brave’ - but you need a gun to be ‘brave’.
‘Lesser cultures’ - oh boy, don’t really know where to start unpicking that one. Fewer than 40% of Americans own a valid passport so most only experience other cultures through Tv, if they’re so inclined. It’s based on this poor world knowledge that America mistakenly believes it’s the best place on earth. There is a lot to like about America, but when it gets it wrong it sure likes to double down on it.

60% know they already live in the best place on earth and need guns to keep it that way. We have enough trouble safeguarding our own culture to give two shits about others thousands of miles away. Most Americans are too busy producing, paying taxes, and building their lives to give a shit about anything else.

 

[Rightguide]

You who always accuse others of knowing nothing about history, you really ought to know the Revolution had nothing to do with guns. It was about taxes.

Actually, the revolution itself was all about guns. It started when the British Army marched into Lexington and Concord with the intention of suppressing a rebellion by seizing privately owned weapons. it was there that the "shot heard round the world" was fired. The rest was a massive revolutionary gunfight that saw the American right to keep and bear arms carved into history and later into the Constitution and the psyche of every American.

 

[Bray123]

https://www.historyhit.com/causes-of-american-revolution/

There's a lot about French interference in American politics, taxes, smuggling and suchlike issues, but the rights of drunken insane people to own machine guns doesn't appear even once.

 

[phrodeau]

Actually, the revolution itself was all about guns. It started when the British Army marched into Lexington and Concord with the intention of suppressing a rebellion by seizing privately owned weapons. it was there that the "shot heard round the world" was fired. The rest was a massive revolutionary gunfight that saw the American right to keep and bear arms carved into history and later into the Constitution and the psyche of every American.

Gage did not have orders to seize weapons. He just thought it was a good idea.

 

[Rightguide]

Gage did not have orders to seize weapons. He just thought it was a good idea.

Turned out to be a bad idea.

 

[YDB95]

Turned out to be a bad idea.

Either way, the British army did not march into Lexington and concord "with the intention of suppressing a rebellion by seizing privately owned weapons"; they were after military supplies that were not "privately owned"; they were the property of the restive colonial government.

 

[LupusDei]

It's the home of the brave where strong men and women are armed and few care about what other lesser cultures think.

It's rare to see such concise self identification as a fascist. At least kudos for openly admitting that.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

According to Pew Research, 2,590 children under the age of 18 in the US were killed by gun fire in 2021. Statistica reported 73.6 million children in the US under 18 in 2021. Of the 73.6 million children, .00035 died of gunfire.