loquere
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Funny rap battle between J. R. R. Tolkien & George R. R. Martin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0
Youtube rap battle J. R. R. Tolkien VS. George R. R. Martin
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lovecraft68
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Martin's a fat sexist hack who wouldn't have a series without Tolkien's inspiration in the genre.
Game of thrones is rape, tits, gratuitous sex and over the top violence and gore aimed at 14 year old boys or would be except for the fact he could turn a boat trip into 450 pages. And all his 'complex plot lines' have spun in so many circles its idiotic and has no end in site, if it were on lit it would be the most successful series ever because A-it will never end and B-he treats female characters like shit.
And Tolkien actually finished his work whereas Martin is so immersed in his own hype he's missed his last two dead lines, hasn't released a book in years(in the series that made him famous, but he's releasing other crap no one cares about) and has forced HBO to pretty much decide they are going to end GOT as they see fit because he's two busy touting himself to write and at his age and obviously unhealthy lifestyle he may die before he finishes it.
All his females are raped or otherwise humiliated and you see their tits within five minutes of their debut because that's all they're there for. Even the 'powerful ones' have been humiliated from Dragon ladies rape of a honeymoon to Lannister's walk of shame that lasted far too long to be effective, but more like jerk off material. Even the women in the show have complained about the amount of nudity expected.
He's an obvious woman hater and most likely because he's fat and unattractive and has more food stuck in his beard than I'll eat it a week so no woman wanted him.
There's an epic rant about an over rated slob that makes E.L James look like she cares about women's rights.
Fuck him, the very definition of what passes for 'epic' these days.
ETA the allegedly unique thing Martin does is kill his heroes and put them through hell supposedly unusual for the fantasy genre.
Try again, look up Stephen R Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. The first two series have more depression and heartache and death than 'good stuff' and are very powerful, yet even though they were written in the later seventies and into the eighties no profanity no sex and ridiculous over the top violence, Donaldson used skill not "look at that' in his writing.
Game of thrones is rape, tits, gratuitous sex and over the top violence and gore aimed at 14 year old boys or would be except for the fact he could turn a boat trip into 450 pages. And all his 'complex plot lines' have spun in so many circles its idiotic and has no end in site, if it were on lit it would be the most successful series ever because A-it will never end and B-he treats female characters like shit.
And Tolkien actually finished his work whereas Martin is so immersed in his own hype he's missed his last two dead lines, hasn't released a book in years(in the series that made him famous, but he's releasing other crap no one cares about) and has forced HBO to pretty much decide they are going to end GOT as they see fit because he's two busy touting himself to write and at his age and obviously unhealthy lifestyle he may die before he finishes it.
All his females are raped or otherwise humiliated and you see their tits within five minutes of their debut because that's all they're there for. Even the 'powerful ones' have been humiliated from Dragon ladies rape of a honeymoon to Lannister's walk of shame that lasted far too long to be effective, but more like jerk off material. Even the women in the show have complained about the amount of nudity expected.
He's an obvious woman hater and most likely because he's fat and unattractive and has more food stuck in his beard than I'll eat it a week so no woman wanted him.
There's an epic rant about an over rated slob that makes E.L James look like she cares about women's rights.
Fuck him, the very definition of what passes for 'epic' these days.
ETA the allegedly unique thing Martin does is kill his heroes and put them through hell supposedly unusual for the fantasy genre.
Try again, look up Stephen R Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. The first two series have more depression and heartache and death than 'good stuff' and are very powerful, yet even though they were written in the later seventies and into the eighties no profanity no sex and ridiculous over the top violence, Donaldson used skill not "look at that' in his writing.
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Handley_Page
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You know, after that, I might even take a look at Game of Thrones, if only for the women.
So far it has eluded me.
So far it has eluded me.
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There's some stuff that's just not worth looking at. Game of Thrones is on my list to never watch. I learned a lesson from watching 'Lost' -within ten episodes it was obvious the writers had no story to tell but were going to write oceans of dialog anyway. GoT is the same.
Toklien was a master at every level. Martin's derivative and meandering.
Toklien was a master at every level. Martin's derivative and meandering.
Hard_Rom
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Creatively the books are better than the TV series (duh!). Quite vicious, even pornographic. Lots more undead types. TV series is dumbed down and titted up for viewership. Still not bad though.
Tolkien was just as badly butchered and dumbed down for the big screen. If you can get through it, the Silmarillion is epic truly a creative work of art. The Hobbit and LotR is just a byline.
I'll take Robert E. Howard's original Conan stories over most.
Tolkien was just as badly butchered and dumbed down for the big screen. If you can get through it, the Silmarillion is epic truly a creative work of art. The Hobbit and LotR is just a byline.
I'll take Robert E. Howard's original Conan stories over most.
NotWise
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That reminds me...
My wife has tickets to see George R.R. Martin interview Stephen King in a theater just up the street from here (so to speak). The theater seats about 620. I don't know if this is a touring thing or not. Martin lives not far from here and is rather pleasantly involved in the art community in the town where he lives.
My wife has tickets to see George R.R. Martin interview Stephen King in a theater just up the street from here (so to speak). The theater seats about 620. I don't know if this is a touring thing or not. Martin lives not far from here and is rather pleasantly involved in the art community in the town where he lives.
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