youngest mother in england

[Shaq]

Well, when you have something constructive to say, please get back to me.

I'm going to go cry.

Cry? Why?

I've said nothing but constructive things in this thread.


You all wanted to go on a Peter Pan fantasy land quest and I reminded you how cold the world is.

 

[Shaq]

Though we dont like each other I would say it'd be better to have that "idiotic sheep" than to let her run wild like some parents do and Shaq seems to be advocating.

I have advocated nothing but understanding young people before telling them "You are too young to have a baby!"


That is retarded. She IS having the baby.

How do you deal with it? And how do you deal with children before hand is what I'm talking about.


Look at the conflict.

"You are too young to have a baby."

Reality: "She is having a baby."

In the very basic nature of the conversation you all are missing the point.

 

[Shaq]

I was 14 the first time.

Who asked for statistics?

 

[SleepingWarrior]

I'm the type to actually be able to get women to have sex with me.

Just slit your wrists already and leave your organs for a person with a life to actually use for good.

I didn't see you post for a while I figured you were finally dead.


Wishful thinking on my part I guess.

If by women you mean 12 yr olds you can have em to yourself and the rest of the pedo-crew.

 

[Shaq]

If by women you mean 12 yr olds you can have em to yourself and the rest of the pedo-crew.

Your mother should have stuck to either anal sex or oral.

 

[dolf]

Though we dont like each other I would say it'd be better to have that "idiotic sheep" than to let her run wild like some parents do and Shaq seems to be advocating.

i think i'd have to agree with you there.

but i prefer to have open, non-judgemental conversations about choices and consequenses...she's a prude. that's just who she is. sometimes i wonder where she got that attitude from, coz it certainly wasn't from me, lol, but i love her dearly for it.

my son may be a little more difficult though. 5y/o and has three girlfriends already!

now we can return to animosity.

 

[SleepingWarrior]

Your mother should have stuck to either anal sex or oral.

All well and good but yet here I am the one not advocating that its just fine and dandy for 12 yr olds to be out fucking and having kids because "sex feels good". Hell, being high feels good too so why should the 12 yr olds be left out of it?

 

[Shaq]

you are ignorant, you are beyond rude and you are an idiot.
i'm not going to waste another second trying to converse with you.

You didn't converse with me.


You called me names when I disagreed with you.

 

[Shaq]

All well and good but yet here I am the one not advocating that its just fine and dandy for 12 yr olds to be out fucking and having kids because "sex feels good". Hell, being high feels good too so why should the 12 yr olds be left out of it?

You must be reading at a 4th grade level.

I have simply said pretending like 11 year olds are haphazardly engaging in sex isn't going to solve anything.

Understanding their desires, impulses and what is factoring into their decision to have sex will.

 

[Debbie]

Who asked for statistics?

You asked a question and I answered it.

How old were you?


Most girls lose their virginties by at least 14 today.

Not 11 or 12.

 

[Shaq]

You asked a question and I answered it.







Not 11 or 12.

Somone else asked for statistics.

And it was 14 when you and I were teenagers.

But life is like inflation. Kids grow up faster so you have to subtract a few years now.

They curse earlier, smoke earlier, have sex early.

A lot of kids get their cherries popped by middle school.

14?

Psh!

 

[SleepingWarrior]

You must be reading at a 4th grade level.

I have simply said pretending like 11 year olds are haphazardly engaging in sex isn't going to solve anything.

Understanding their desires, impulses and what is factoring into their decision to have sex will.

And you seem to be missing the whole point of what you are saying... By telling them they are just a slave to their impulses you are giving them the go ahead to go engage in the behavior. Would you do the same if that child had an impulse to kill something or someone?

 

[zipman]

I sense a great generational gap among many of you.


How fortunate I am. When I stretch out my arms on one hand, I am able to touch all of you.

On the other, I am able to touch the young people of today.


They tell me you all know very little about them and they don't really listen to you.

LOL, you're a real legend in your own mind, aren't you?

 

[Recidiva]

And you seem to be missing the whole point of what you are saying... By telling them they are just a slave to their impulses you are giving them the go ahead to go engage in the behavior. Would you do the same if that child had an impulse to kill something or someone?

"Hey, if you kill someone while driving a car, that's your right. If you can reach the keys, you CAN drive."

 

[zipman]

Who asked for statistics?

Actually, that's more of an anecdote than a statistic.

Just sayin'

 

[Shaq]

And you seem to be missing the whole point of what you are saying... By telling them they are just a slave to their impulses you are giving them the go ahead to go engage in the behavior. Would you do the same if that child had an impulse to kill something or someone?

Sex happens murder happens.

 

[Shaq]

Actually, that's more of an anecdote than a statistic.

Just sayin'

It works for the sake of this discussion math boy!!!

 

[Shaq]

LOL, you're a real legend in your own mind, aren't you?

Zip it man.

 

[Debbie]

Somone else asked for statistics.

And it was 14 when you and I were teenagers.

But life is like inflation. Kids grow up faster so you have to subtract a few years now.

They curse earlier, smoke earlier, have sex early.

A lot of kids get their cherries popped by middle school.

14?

Psh!

Most girls lose their virginties by at least 14 today.[/QUOTE]



Getting your cherry popped early and raising a child when you are 12 is a big deal.

It may not mean much to you. But most of this generation are not capable of raising their next generation properly. (At 12 I mean. My son is 12 and his no 1 priority is making sure his tummy is full 24/7 lol and yes we have had the birds and bees talk.)

Kids may seemingly grow up faster nowadays but most of them don't have the life skills they need or would have had in the 18th century.

 

[Shaq]

Most girls lose their virginties by at least 14 today.

Kids may seemingly grow up faster nowadays but most of them don't have the life skills they need or would have hadin the 18th century.[/QUOTE]

BINGO!!

Finally someone finally mentioned it.

This is the consequence of coddling them.

Kids before were exploited through work which when overdone was wrong but with moderation it taught them balance between learning life skills and childhood.

Today's kids are themselves dolls are ill prepared for life in general.

 

[Shaq]

"Hey, if you kill someone while driving a car, that's your right. If you can reach the keys, you CAN drive."

Stop being glib and misrepresenting the opposing side because they disagree with you.

 

[zipman]

Zip it man.

Why? I find your views quite amusing. It's always fun when someone so young tries to lecture others with far more life experience.

 

[Shaq]

Why? I find your views quite amusing. It's always fun when someone so young tries to lecture others with far more life experience.

Well its sad when someone so old still has a need to get enjoyment out of being condescending instead of contributing his thoughts.

Grow up zipboy.

 

[Shaq]

Oh and more life experience?


Sleepingwarrior?

Dolf?


Age=maturity is a small part of the discussion actually. Since someone mentioned 19 year olds being illprepared for children.

That is an elitest view by the way.

That age somehow entitles the elders to have better views than those younger.

Which is exactly why the youth don't listen to them.......

 

[Recidiva]

Stop being glib and misrepresenting the opposing side because they disagree with you.

Then make a point that doesn't look like a drug dealer on the corner justifying his behavior by saying "Hey, if I don't do it, someone else will."

If the point is responsibility for behavior, you're just writing it all off. Hey, our hormones are running the show. Let it slide, let it go.

No. You still can't deal with why a parent would let a 12-year-old give birth in a bathroom. You keep sliding by that. My point is that this is bad parenting. And you say you're "in touch with the kids"

Yeah, 'cause you probably sell them this attitude. If you don't, fine. Say so. But your discussion here looks like the creepy dude that shows up at all the high school parties so you can "understand" the underage.