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Very cool! Damn good idea, if you ask me.
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That's great. "It worked for Bill and Monica" could be the motto here. 
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I hope that story gets a lot of play in the US.
The “Religious Right” will get themselves into such a twist that they will strangle themselves in their own knickers!
The “Religious Right” will get themselves into such a twist that they will strangle themselves in their own knickers!
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Perhaps the religious right will force Bush to shed Blair.
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perdita said:Perhaps the religious right will force Bush to shed Blair.
Sending out emails, including links to the Guardian article, to anybody who is part of the religious right in the US, as we speak.
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A while ago I overheard a conversation some kids were having. They were hanging around the bus-stop, as is the trend for the skanky kids were I come from.
Much to the shrieking, disgusted delight of one girl, her friend had given a boy a blowjobo) and then started snogging another boy. The snogging boy looked physically ill, and was making really exaggerated disgusted noises...
Not at all relevant, but made me laugh
Much to the shrieking, disgusted delight of one girl, her friend had given a boy a blowjob
o) and then started snogging another boy. The snogging boy looked physically ill, and was making really exaggerated disgusted noises...Not at all relevant, but made me laugh
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dl, just to get this right, is snogging fucking? I thought shagging was. At any rate, I don't get it, your post. P.
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Snogging=making out.
Shagging=fucking.
Shagging=fucking.
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snogging is kissing with tongues
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OhhhhhhhhKay. I get it.
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The things I learn from reading HP fan fics...
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No, the world is not as just or well-ordered as that.
Here in the US, there was a rash of articles decrying the fact that a lot of young people had hit upon oral sex as a way to have sex and avoid pregnancy.
When I was young the chief thing that kept me from having sex until I was 18 was the fear of getting pregnant. It was what kept a lot of women from having sex, right up until the Pill was invented.
Of course, when you're young, it's not easy to get some contraceptives without parental permission, especially those that require a prescription.
When these articles first came out--including the outcry--I thought, Jeez Louise! What'll satisfy these people? We already have the highest rate of unwed parenthood in the developed world.
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SlickTony said:
By "unwed parenthood" I suppose you are acknowledging that both parties cause trouble. Sitll, it is only the "unwed mother" who really has to deal with the "problem."
But isn't "unwed mother" a bit of a misnomer these days?
If you actually count all births to unwed mothers, you are probably counting a lot of babies with fathers in everything but license. Or the offspring of mothers who never planned to include a father in anything but the begetting – providing they didn’t go high tech.
What they do is nobody’s business.
Where you probably DO want to count noses, is of unplanned and "fatherless" infants with teenaged mothers.
Single Teenage Accidental Parents . . . er . . . STAPies!
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Missing the point
No matter what your view on this as ok or not, it is not a solution. In many ways it is a symptom of a bigger problem. Despite all the increase in health and sex education at a variety of ages, teenagers are acting as if they are invulnerable. To represent any sexual alternative as 'safer' than intercourse, unfortunately, extends too many ill informed beliefs. Yes, oral sex does reduce the probability of pregnancy, but that is only one of the problems of sexually active children.
While the 'Religious Right' may be up in arms about the increasing popularity of oral sex among teenagers as an alternative to intercourse, it is not alone in its concern. Very responsible, progressive, educators are equally concerned about a trend that places oral sex in the realm of 'not real sex' or even 'party games'.
Anyone see the controversial Oprah show which discussed this in very graphic detail? I personally have some serious moral issues with a casual attitude toward promiscuity. There are also the tremendous emotional pressures that add to the individual burden. But all of those subjective views aside, there are serious medical consequences which all seem to be ignored.
The underlying medical concern is the increased exposure to STD's and mistaken belief on the part of participants that since it's not intercourse, they are safe. I feel fortunate that our own children are willing to let us know some of what is going on in their own school. Gonorhea resistant to penicillin and Herpes are just two of the non-lethal problems.
Unfortunately, too much of the discussion gets caught up in whether this activity is 'right' or 'wrong' when what we first need to talk about is the danger involved.
Then we need to give the teenagers some ability to talk about the very different views regarding sex. While it is very easy to dismiss moral guidance as repressive, teenagers themselves will tell you that they have very mixed emotions. People's feelings get very hurt and sex is used as a weapon by girls to hurt each other. Boys acquiesce to relationships in order to have sex. Telling and bragging take on mythic proportions. None of this is new, but the surrounding atomosphere of 'as long as its consensual' makes the pressures even larger.
Yes, sex can be recreational under the right circumstances, but how often does that really happen? Even with adults the likelihood of one person's expectations matching the other's is not all that high, even in monogamous relationships there are all kinds of stress. Mix in the uncertainty associated with promiscuity and the uncertain self images of teenage years and it's a volatile and difficult situation.
To treat the 'problem' as if it is a physical rehab project that just needs another method, to me, misses the entire point.
No matter what your view on this as ok or not, it is not a solution. In many ways it is a symptom of a bigger problem. Despite all the increase in health and sex education at a variety of ages, teenagers are acting as if they are invulnerable. To represent any sexual alternative as 'safer' than intercourse, unfortunately, extends too many ill informed beliefs. Yes, oral sex does reduce the probability of pregnancy, but that is only one of the problems of sexually active children.
While the 'Religious Right' may be up in arms about the increasing popularity of oral sex among teenagers as an alternative to intercourse, it is not alone in its concern. Very responsible, progressive, educators are equally concerned about a trend that places oral sex in the realm of 'not real sex' or even 'party games'.
Anyone see the controversial Oprah show which discussed this in very graphic detail? I personally have some serious moral issues with a casual attitude toward promiscuity. There are also the tremendous emotional pressures that add to the individual burden. But all of those subjective views aside, there are serious medical consequences which all seem to be ignored.
The underlying medical concern is the increased exposure to STD's and mistaken belief on the part of participants that since it's not intercourse, they are safe. I feel fortunate that our own children are willing to let us know some of what is going on in their own school. Gonorhea resistant to penicillin and Herpes are just two of the non-lethal problems.
Unfortunately, too much of the discussion gets caught up in whether this activity is 'right' or 'wrong' when what we first need to talk about is the danger involved.
Then we need to give the teenagers some ability to talk about the very different views regarding sex. While it is very easy to dismiss moral guidance as repressive, teenagers themselves will tell you that they have very mixed emotions. People's feelings get very hurt and sex is used as a weapon by girls to hurt each other. Boys acquiesce to relationships in order to have sex. Telling and bragging take on mythic proportions. None of this is new, but the surrounding atomosphere of 'as long as its consensual' makes the pressures even larger.
Yes, sex can be recreational under the right circumstances, but how often does that really happen? Even with adults the likelihood of one person's expectations matching the other's is not all that high, even in monogamous relationships there are all kinds of stress. Mix in the uncertainty associated with promiscuity and the uncertain self images of teenage years and it's a volatile and difficult situation.
To treat the 'problem' as if it is a physical rehab project that just needs another method, to me, misses the entire point.
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OldnotDead: I am grateful for your very thoughtful and insight full post. I was not thinking in mine.
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I've said it before, and I say it again: round up a bunch of horny, hormone-ridden teenagers, and tell them JUST DON'T DO IT... yeah, that will work!
If any teenagers need to buy condoms, I'll sell them for 5:- SKR/a piece.
If any teenagers need to buy condoms, I'll sell them for 5:- SKR/a piece.
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Mr. Mcfbridge,mcfbridge said:
Ignoring your justifiable queasiness, I think we should consider it.
The Killer "Bs" — Bush & Blair — have screwed massive portions of the world, using only oral talents.
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She did not have to remove any other garment for the very simple reason that no Englishwoman, of any class, had ever worn anything beneath her petticoats up to this date, nor was to do so for at least another sixty years. One might write an essay on this incomprehensible and little-known fact about their under-clothing, or lack in it. French and Italian women had long remedied the deficiency, and English men also; but not English women. All those graciously elegant and imposing upper-class ladies in their fashionable or court dresses, whose image has been so variously left us by the eighteenth-century painters, are - to put it brutally - knickerless. And what is more, when the breach was finally made - or rather, covered - and the first female drawers, and soon after pantalettes, appeared at the beggining of the nineteenth-century, they were considered grossly immodest, an unwarranted provocation upon man; which is no doubt why they so swiftly became de rigueur
From A Maggot by John Fowles
Is there an idea for a historical erotica?
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Er ... and what maggot in your brain set THAT off?
I merely said, "The “Religious Right” will get themselves into such a twist that they will strangle themselves in their own knickers!"
On the other hand, any excuse to read John Fowles into the record must not be missed.
When "Gentlemen" arose to give a "Lady" his seat, decorum demand a decent five minute interval, before the seat was sufficiently cooled for Milady's bottom.
Must have caused a rather awkward lull in the conversation, don't you think?
Perhaps THAT is where the odd notion that you can get pregnant from sitting on a toilet seat first arose. You think?
I merely said, "The “Religious Right” will get themselves into such a twist that they will strangle themselves in their own knickers!"
On the other hand, any excuse to read John Fowles into the record must not be missed.
When "Gentlemen" arose to give a "Lady" his seat, decorum demand a decent five minute interval, before the seat was sufficiently cooled for Milady's bottom.
Must have caused a rather awkward lull in the conversation, don't you think?
Perhaps THAT is where the odd notion that you can get pregnant from sitting on a toilet seat first arose. You think?
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They do?!Virtual_Burlesque said:
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ChilledVodka said:They do?!
No.!
But the story had to originate from some place.
It could not have popped out of the mouths of so many sex education dropouts spontaneously, could it?
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I can't believe anyone dropping out from Sex ed class, but looks like it's happening a lot in US and UK, judging from the rate of teen pregnancy.Virtual_Burlesque said:
Dutch and the Scandinavians got it about right.
You should listen to the Pope. He says HIV virus is so small it escape condom. Of course, the Pope is the Stud, right?
