Written scenes of rape as a taboo..

[Bestroika]

I know that some of the stories I write include rape. I have been told, time after time, that this is a no go by most critics. I have never pretended like the recipient of the rape enjoyed it or got off on it as the case may be. I do not lessen the effects of this violent and intrusive act.

Most of my stories include violence in one form or another. My characters have always drawn blood, it is just how they are. But I was wondering about how the rest of you felt about the subject of stories that contain rape?

I do understand the validity of not wanting to promote or seemingly promote this horrid act, but on the same hand, it does happen. As unfortunate as that is, can't we write about reality or is to be censored because of the act itself?

Just wondering about your thoughts on the subject.

 

[lovecraft68]

I know that some of the stories I write include rape. I have been told, time after time, that this is a no go by most critics. I have never pretended like the recipient of the rape enjoyed it or got off on it as the case may be. I do not lessen the effects of this violent and intrusive act.

Most of my stories include violence in one form or another. My characters have always drawn blood, it is just how they are. But I was wondering about how the rest of you felt about the subject of stories that contain rape?

I do understand the validity of not wanting to promote or seemingly promote this horrid act, but on the same hand, it does happen. As unfortunate as that is, can't we write about reality or is to be censored because of the act itself?

Just wondering about your thoughts on the subject.

It does happen but in sex stories it is the premiere event of the story therefore glorified as opposed to maybe a character getting raped in a long work of fiction and it has something to do with the characters history. People read nonconsent to masturbate to women getting taken against there will any who claim otherwise are full of shit. You may have other reasons for writing it maybe you feel "it's all part of the story" but they are jacking to this heinous act and to me these stories encourage it. Just my opinion which you asked for. My stories are full of violence so I am not squemish but it's all "fair fight" not helpless female being assualted. I have posted many times this category should be removed and am once again prepared to take the beating for it.

 

[Bestroika]

It does happen but in sex stories it is the premiere event of the story therefore glorified as opposed to maybe a character getting raped in a long work of fiction and it has something to do with the characters history. People read nonconsent to masturbate to women getting taken against there will any who claim otherwise are full of shit. You may have other reasons for writing it maybe you feel "it's all part of the story" but they are jacking to this heinous act and to me these stories encourage it. Just my opinion which you asked for. My stories are full of violence so I am not squemish but it's all "fair fight" not helpless female being assualted. I have posted many times this category should be removed and am once again prepared to take the beating for it.

I don't think you should take a beating for it at all, as it is a valid point. I just wanted someone to illuminate the reasoning behind it. Most critics just say NO, and don't really provide reasoning. I suppose I am one of those folks that wants to hear the reason behind it, valid as the initial response may be.

I understand how rape in a long fictional story as part of a character's background can be considered different. I've never used rape as the premiere event of any of my stories, so I guess for that I should feel slightly better. I wrote a long fictional historical piece, using Jack the Ripper as a character. The idea behind it was can a monster, even one as bad as Jack, find someone that he cannot exist without? And if he did, what kind of woman would she have to be? It was twisted, I will admit, but it ate at my brain for so long I finally put it on paper.

In that piece I included a rape scene, a prostitute being forced by a customer that did not wish to pay, but the rape is interrupted and is never finished. I wanted people to understand London and these unfortunate women, and what they had to go through...part of a background for this character.

Does that make it different? I honestly couldn't tell you. I know that I would never, ever want to write anything that portrays women in that weak light. I suppose I am looking for some guidance in this, and as I said, some opinions of other writers.

Lovecraft, I really do appreciate your thoughts on the matter, very much.

 

[Bestroika]

Lovecraft, I now see in black and white why publishers and sites alike are against rape scenes in stories. That guy posting about a rape story with Taylor Swfit is a real sicko. I would never, ever, want to write anything that a person like that would enjoy.

Eyes wide open.

 

[lovecraft68]

Lovecraft, I now see in black and white why publishers and sites alike are against rape scenes in stories. That guy posting about a rape story with Taylor Swfit is a real sicko. I would never, ever, want to write anything that a person like that would enjoy.

Eyes wide open.

You know something? That is amazing that you just posted that as I was going to PM you the link to that thread and use it as an example of hardcore "sickness" The asshole stressed "It should hurt her" That is not "roleplay" rape or even eventually the woman "gets into it" that is just plain hardcore.

I wish I knew who he was so I could send copies of that post to all of his neighbors with wives and especially daughters so they could beat the shit out of him. Guys like that are the reason both of my daughters are proficient in martial arts and my 21 year old owns a .38 and I've made damn sure she knows how to use it. Best thing about guys like that in my experience is that when cornered to fight they will invariably curl up into a ball and cry as they can only hurt women. UGh, see what this stuff does to me? Honestly I don;t understand why this category is allowed but I am obviously in the minority. The non consent backers will say it's a fantasy like any other category on here. Like incest or gay male or group. That is bullshit none of those categories are crimes or lead to pain and suffering (incest is technically against the law but more of a moral one unless of course it is RAPE) said it before and will say it again it glorifies and makes light of a heinous crime.

 

[Bestroika]

Great minds think alike Lovecraft.

I saw the post from that 'guy' and was like, "Well, my questions are all answered."

See, I had no idea there were folks out there writing hard core rape and getting off on it. I know the world is full of sick, sick people...but there ought to be a line. A definitive line, where if you cross it, you lose anatomical parts. I felt bad about putting rape references in as part of a character's background...how could someone ask specifically for rape stories?

I know there are people that 'play' at rape, a fantasy with a partner. But that has to be worked out ahead of time between the two parties, so it isn't really rape.

Rape, the taking of someone against their will and without prior knowledge as in the fantasy realm, is a hideous act that carries with it a ripple affect that can last for years and years. I stand by my feelings on the matte when I say that if rape got the death penalty, more men would keep their dicks in their pants.

I don't blame you for arming your children. I have two step-daughters and anyone that decides to mess around with them is taking his life in his hands. I have told them plenty of times that any guy who attempts to force himself on them is going to miss his dick when it is sitting in a jar on my shelf.

Believe me, I now understand clearly what the hell they are talking about.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I have written several stories involving rape in role-playing, and have always made it clear everything was consensual. Sometimes it was in my preliminary descriptions and once it was as a surprise ending.

I have written only two stories I can think of about violent rape. One was a man in jail and he discovered, to his surprise, he really enjoyed getting his ass crammed, and became a prison queen. In the other, an erotic horror story, the victim was a ghost who had committed suicide after being raped and returned a year later to lure the rapist to his death.

I have written a few non-consent stories, and the "victim" always ends up enjoying it and wanting more. These may not be realistic, but they are fun to write.

 

[Bestroika]

I have written several stories involving rape in role-playing, and have always made it clear everything was consensual. Sometimes it was in my preliminary descriptions and once it was as a surprise ending.

I have written only two stories I can think of about violent rape. One was a man in jail and he discovered, to his surprise, he really enjoyed getting his ass crammed, and became a prison queen. In the other, an erotic horror story, the victim was a ghost who had committed suicide after being raped and returned a year later to lure the rapist to his death.

I have written a few non-consent stories, and the "victim" always ends up enjoying it and wanting more. These may not be realistic, but they are fun to write.

The problem I now see with this is that stories written as non-consent may be unrealistic and 'fun to write' to you BL...but, the people who are strictly intent on reading about the rape of someone (outside of fantasy play with a fully in the know partner) are getting off on these stories and in turn a violent, sadistic act is receiving a huge pat on the back.

Please know I mean no offense on this, but 'rape' and 'non-consent' that leads to the partner saying, "Oh baby, give me more." are BS. I understand that we are in a box shaped fantasy realm here, but at the same time, I've had the privelage of spitting my own teeth out after someone committed violence to me and nowhere was that enjoyable. It would be one thing if these 'fantasy stories' did no harm, but somewhere right now some horrid person is yanking his wank and getting turned on by the thought of doing violence to some unsuspecting woman. What if that unsuspecting woman was someone you knew and loved?

 

[lovecraft68]

I have written several stories involving rape in role-playing, and have always made it clear everything was consensual. Sometimes it was in my preliminary descriptions and once it was as a surprise ending.

I have written only two stories I can think of about violent rape. One was a man in jail and he discovered, to his surprise, he really enjoyed getting his ass crammed, and became a prison queen. In the other, an erotic horror story, the victim was a ghost who had committed suicide after being raped and returned a year later to lure the rapist to his death.

I have written a few non-consent stories, and the "victim" always ends up enjoying it and wanting more. These may not be realistic, but they are fun to write.

See in your second example the rape to me is tolerable because this is a revenge story so it gives reason for the revenge. I also believe you have said in threads past that you use the "role play" scenario where after the scene it comes to light it was a game. Nice trick in that it provides the sick thrill but no harm no foul so to speak. That example is what I will expand upon.
You BL are the author so in the "it was a game" you know full well it is and it's in your mind start to finish. The sick fuck stroking to it really wants this to be happening and at the end is probably mad at you.
Reluctance should not be in the same category as is still means the woman has a choice Rape is rape. The people here who defend it inevitably say that it is a fantasy like every other category is. I beg to differ.
Group, gay male, cross dressing, incest-all fantasies and fetish harmless-albeit- a little twisted fun. Now of course incest is a crime but more of moral one. especially on LIt where all is 18+ the only time incest is truly a crime is when an act of RAPE is committed usually father daughter. even non human all fantasy.
Rape is a criminal act and written that way to provide sexual enjoyment is simply disturbing. i used a brief (coupld of paragraphs) rape scene in a dream flashback. The girl was raped as a young girl I use the scene to show why at the age of 19 she cannot enjoy sex with a man and is sinking into alcoholism (it also leads her to seducing her brother because she desperately wants sex and knows he will never hurt her) to use rape as a plot device or literary tool is different and as I said the type of guy stroking to it is the type of guy I think is capable of it. I feel these stories glorify a criminal act and would love nothing more than to see the category removed.