Writerly Confessions

[lovecraft68]

Confess a real-or one that you perceive to be-a writerly sin that you commit/committed.

 

[lovecraft68]

In 15 years of writing, 214 e-books, stories here, works ranging from 9k to 155k, stroker to full length novels I confess that I...

Have never once used an outline. Other than the loose idea of where I want the story to go in my mind, I have never mapped or planned anything out. 100% off the cuff every word, every time.

 

[StillStunned]

I've never taken a single class in fiction writing, nor even officially learned English grammar.

(And yes, I have an MA in English Language & Literature.)

 

[MelissaBaby]

The big one-procrastination.

 

[lovecraft68]

The big one-procrastination.

If that's a sin, then the AH must be hell itself.

 

[SimonDoom]

I have started two separate series and not finished them. One has been waiting four years, the other almost seven. I occasionally get readers asking when they'll be completed.

I don't know.

Sometimes I even feel guilty about it.

 

[StillStunned]

If that's a sin, then the AH must be hell itself.

In my experience, the AH is temptation. I made myself not interact for a couple of days, and managed to finish a story that had been sitting in my Drafts for six weeks.

 

[HectorBidon]

I've let many a darling go unmurdered.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

In 15 years of writing, 214 e-books, stories here, works ranging from 9k to 155k, stroker to full length novels I confess that I...

Have never once used an outline. Other than the loose idea of where I want the story to go in my mind, I have never mapped or planned anything out. 100% off the cuff every word, every time.

You are my idol!

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

The big one-procrastination.

I never quite got around to that.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Confess a real-or one that you perceive to be-a writerly sin that you commit/committed.

Maybe not a confession. But a block I have. I want to try to write GM. But I’m kinda terrified. People keep telling me that the physical should be easy, given my sexual preferences. I’ve also written guys being pegged or receiving ass-play in several stories. But I’m scared of getting the emotional side wrong and being hated by actual gay male readers.

I tried to get over this hoodoo in Heaven & Hole by having one of the FMCs body swap with a guy in order to seduce a male character. But I chickened out. I played it for laughs and ended up with the FMC getting what she needed without sex.

It’s weird, because I have stated here several times my opinion that men and women are more alike than society makes us think. But still I struggle with the concept.

Maybe I should rip the BandAid off and just write a 750 worder.

Emily

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Maybe not a confession. But a block I have. I want to try to write GM. But I’m kinda terrified. People keep telling me that the physical should be easy, given my sexual preferences. I’ve also written guys being pegged or receiving ass-play in several stories. But I’m scared of getting the emotional side wrong and being hated by actual gay male readers.

I tried to get over this hoodoo in Heaven & Hole by having one of the FMCs body swap with a guy in order to seduce a male character. But I chickened out. I played it for laughs and ended up with the FMC getting what she needed without sex.

It’s weird, because I have stated here several times my opinion that men and women are more alike than society makes us think. But still I struggle with the concept.

Maybe I should rip the BandAid off and just write a 750 worder.

Emily

Make your MC a twink/fem boy. Having read a lot of your stuff, I think you’ll do fine.

 

[lovecraft68]

Maybe not a confession. But a block I have. I want to try to write GM. But I’m kinda terrified. People keep telling me that the physical should be easy, given my sexual preferences. I’ve also written guys being pegged or receiving ass-play in several stories. But I’m scared of getting the emotional side wrong and being hated by actual gay male readers.

I tried to get over this hoodoo in Heaven & Hole by having one of the FMCs body swap with a guy in order to seduce a male character. But I chickened out. I played it for laughs and ended up with the FMC getting what she needed without sex.

It’s weird, because I have stated here several times my opinion that men and women are more alike than society makes us think. But still I struggle with the concept.

Maybe I should rip the BandAid off and just write a 750 worder.

Emily

So, I had the same issue couple years back. Writing with no outline often leads to me putting myself into corners that I now have to get out of.

The writers version of ride of die (one of my life mantras).

I created a stereotype bad ass mafioso who likes lady boys on the side, I did an extremely quick and vague scene at the end of the first book in the series, but in the second one I needed a flat out GM scene. I have no interest in men, or being pegged, or watching GM porn or reading it so what do I do here?

I relied on write what you know. What do I know that could work? I know fucked up is what I know. I know anger, self loathing, violence...and using those I drove the scene using the characters self loathing for his own cravings. He is turned on by his secret lover, then angry with himself that he is. While in the midst of being blown and fucking he hears his father's voice calling him a fag and other nasty remarks, the scene is rough and angry to reflect that and...according to the couple people here who read it, I scored by masking my lack of experience with an emotional redirect.

Cover your flaws with your strengths young Jedi.

 

[TxRad]

I also have never done an outline. I usually have a bare boned idea and let the characters and my Muse figure out the story.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

I relied on write what you know. What do I know that could work? I know fucked up is what I know. I know anger, self loathing, violence...and using those I drove the scene using the characters self loathing for his own cravings. He is turned on by his secret lover, then angry with himself that he is. While in the midst of being blown and fucking he hears his father's voice calling him a fag and other nasty remarks, the scene is rough and angry to reflect that and...according to the couple people here who read it, I scored by masking my lack of experience with an emotional redirect.

You need to see Dana Gould's 'Angry Blowjobs' routine.

 

[lovecraft68]

You need to see Dana Gould's 'Angry Blowjobs' routine.

I'll check it out. Meanwhile I have the feeling I may have gotten one or two of those from the wife over the years.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Make your MC a twink/fem boy. Having read a lot of your stuff, I think you’ll do fine.

See. That’s my problem. What’s it like mentally for that person? What’s it like emotionally?

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

So, I had the same issue couple years back. Writing with no outline often leads to me putting myself into corners that I now have to get out of.

The writers version of ride of die (one of my life mantras).

I created a stereotype bad ass mafioso who likes lady boys on the side, I did an extremely quick and vague scene at the end of the first book in the series, but in the second one I needed a flat out GM scene. I have no interest in men, or being pegged, or watching GM porn or reading it so what do I do here?

I relied on write what you know. What do I know that could work? I know fucked up is what I know. I know anger, self loathing, violence...and using those I drove the scene using the characters self loathing for his own cravings. He is turned on by his secret lover, then angry with himself that he is. While in the midst of being blown and fucking he hears his father's voice calling him a fag and other nasty remarks, the scene is rough and angry to reflect that and...according to the couple people here who read it, I scored by masking my lack of experience with an emotional redirect.

Cover your flaws with your strengths young Jedi.

This is a much better answer. Almost all of my stories have a heavy romance theme. I find it conveys across gender and sexuality. Personal experience, the men I’ve been with enjoy cuddling just as much as the women. The details of ‘the act’ are pretty basic. What I love about your stories is the relationships you build between your characters, well, that and your kink meter being seriously fucked up.

Still think you’d write a fem it really well, but @lovecraft68’s answer still holds.

 

[EmilyMiller]

So, I had the same issue couple years back. Writing with no outline often leads to me putting myself into corners that I now have to get out of.

The writers version of ride of die (one of my life mantras).

I created a stereotype bad ass mafioso who likes lady boys on the side, I did an extremely quick and vague scene at the end of the first book in the series, but in the second one I needed a flat out GM scene. I have no interest in men, or being pegged, or watching GM porn or reading it so what do I do here?

I relied on write what you know. What do I know that could work? I know fucked up is what I know. I know anger, self loathing, violence...and using those I drove the scene using the characters self loathing for his own cravings. He is turned on by his secret lover, then angry with himself that he is. While in the midst of being blown and fucking he hears his father's voice calling him a fag and other nasty remarks, the scene is rough and angry to reflect that and...according to the couple people here who read it, I scored by masking my lack of experience with an emotional redirect.

Cover your flaws with your strengths young Jedi.

So, I guess I wanted to do a positive GM (why? just stretching myself and also aware that it’s a blind spot). I had in mind a guy who has called himself straight falling in love with someone who just happens to be male.

I have some ideas, but whenever I try, I just hit a block.

 

[Cagivagurl]

Maybe not a confession. But a block I have. I want to try to write GM. But I’m kinda terrified. People keep telling me that the physical should be easy, given my sexual preferences. I’ve also written guys being pegged or receiving ass-play in several stories. But I’m scared of getting the emotional side wrong and being hated by actual gay male readers.

I tried to get over this hoodoo in Heaven & Hole by having one of the FMCs body swap with a guy in order to seduce a male character. But I chickened out. I played it for laughs and ended up with the FMC getting what she needed without sex.

It’s weird, because I have stated here several times my opinion that men and women are more alike than society makes us think. But still I struggle with the concept.

Maybe I should rip the BandAid off and just write a 750 worder.

Emily

People are people.
We are all members of the human race.
We all love, hate, feel emotions. laugh, cry, hug, feel.
We all suffer the same way, jealousy, envy, desire, lust, attraction.
We all have the same insecurities.
If you approach writing in that way. You will not offend anyone....
Gay men, are no different to any other group on the planet.
The sex is no different... Well, okay maybe a little...
Have fun with your characters, make them laugh and cry.

Cagivagurl.

 

[Cagivagurl]

Confess a real-or one that you perceive to be-a writerly sin that you commit/committed.

I confess....
Writing rules. I have broken them all.
Still can't spell.
Still can't differentiate between to, too or two...
I use to many commas, or not enough depending on the commenter.
I can't spell.
I confess.... It was me.

Cagivagurl

 

[EmilyMiller]

People are people.
We are all members of the human race.
We all love, hate, feel emotions. laugh, cry, hug, feel.
We all suffer the same way, jealousy, envy, desire, lust, attraction.
We all have the same insecurities.
If you approach writing in that way. You will not offend anyone....
Gay men, are no different to any other group on the planet.
The sex is no different... Well, okay maybe a little...
Have fun with your characters, make them laugh and cry.

Cagivagurl.

I know that intellectually. It’s just I have hetero and lesbian experience to fall back on. That fails me with GM.

But you are right. 750 worder it is. My sixth (plus one already published and not on the challenge).

Emily

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

See. That’s my problem. What’s it like mentally for that person? What’s it like emotionally?

Probably a lot more similar to how you feel than you’d think. Sometimes, I feel like I have two voices in my head, one masculine and one feminine. The feminine one wants to be pretty, desired by men. She wants what my (limited) experience tells me any woman wants. When I write in her voice, it’s softer, more emotional.
I have a few fem boys in my world. They’re effeminate and a little flamboyant, usually submissive. Perhaps Lily with a little cockette.
I feel like the only thing stopping you is your own doubt. Go for it write it. I’ll proof it for you if you think that would help.

 

[Cagivagurl]

I know that intellectually. It’s just I have hetero and lesbian experience to fall back on. That fails me with GM.

But you are right. 750 worder it is. My sixth (plus one already published and not on the challenge).

Emily

Why stop at 750????
In for a penny.... As it were.
Dive in head first.
Oops, that didn't look right.
LOL

 

[lovecraft68]

This made me go back and take a peek at the GM scene. Jeez, I was in a bad mood that day. Probably would turn some off, but being Donnie is an antagonist and not meant to be likable it feeds that to the reader. I did have one beta reader who is gay say those feelings are very common in certain types, so I struck a chord of realism...accidently of course.