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[Britva415]

I couldn't give cites, but I feel like most of the time when I've seen this in fiction it's been as part of an intentionally facetious tone. That works for me but it'd probably feel stilted if used unironically.

I see it in fiction on Lit where it doesn't seem intentionally facetious at all, what it seems like is unintentionally clumsy. There are a lot of authors who, when they write, they seem to be writing with some kind of idea in mind about "what writing sounds like," and they wind up putting cliches from nonfiction styles into their fiction narration and their fictional characters' dialog—situations where these constructions are jarringly out of place.

 

[Britva415]

The point of my comment is that the test of whether you REALLY believe in free speech is whether you EVER stand up for speech you don't agree with. It's easy, and also not meaningful, to stand up for the free speech rights of those you agree with.

Yeah, you're still doing it: You're still saying something which sounds like "stand up for the content of their speech" when what (I hope) you mean is "stand up for their right to say it."

 

[alohadave]

But if in practice you regard all speech you disagree with as hate speech,

That's not at all what I stated.

 

[TheRedChamber]

Inspired by another on-going thread...

There is nothing essentially wrong with fiction being 'middle-class' (or even upper class)

Even more controverisal...

There is nothing essentially wrong with 'punching down' as long as it focuses on behaviours rather than innate traits.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Inspired by another on-going thread...

There is nothing essentially wrong with fiction being 'middle-class' (or even upper class)

Even more controverisal...

There is nothing essentially wrong with 'punching down' as long as it focuses on behaviours rather than innate traits.

The whole concept of "punching up" and "punching down" is a stupid way to try and protect favored parties and has nothing to do with up or down.
"Up" just means, "people I don't like"
"Down" just means "people I like"

 

[SimonDoom]

Yeah, you're still doing it: You're still saying something which sounds like "stand up for the content of their speech" when what (I hope) you mean is "stand up for their right to say it."

Yes, I mean stand up for the right. I don't mean to endorse the content of bad speech.

 

[Statius]

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

 

[Statius]

Tolkien once said he hated all forms of allegory when he became old enough to recognize it.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Highly controversial opinion: sometimes I am full of shit.

 

[SimonDoom]

Tolkien once said he hated all forms of allegory when he became old enough to recognize it.

In his forward to The Fellowship of the Rings, Tolkien expressly disavowed any intention to have his work viewed as an allegory. It's easy to read things into it, but I think it's fair to take him at his word. The story is best appreciated as a story on its own terms, rather than as an allegory for something else. It's different in this sense from the Narnia stories by his friend and colleague C.S. Lewis, whose stories are clearly intended as Christian allegory. It's one of the reasons I think Tolkien's work is far more satisfying.

 

[SimonDoom]

Highly controversial opinion: sometimes I am full of shit.

Join the club, doc.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

In his forward to The Fellowship of the Rings, Tolkien expressly disavowed any intention to have his work viewed as an allegory. It's easy to read things into it, but I think it's fair to take him at his word. The story is best appreciated as a story on its own terms, rather than as an allegory for something else. It's different in this sense from the Narnia stories by his friend and colleague C.S. Lewis, whose stories are clearly intended as Christian allegory. It's one of the reasons I think Tolkien's work is far more satisfying.

The full context of his statement is important.

“I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.”​

― J.R.R. Tolkien

It isn't an allegory, but it isn't meant to be "just a story" either.

 

[DeMont]

Highly controversial opinion: George Clooney is not in Pulp Fiction

@AwkwardMD,
Arrrrrgh!!! I said that, I said that! Bad, bad,bad,naughty DeMont - of course not. "From dusk 'til Dawn"... and his sterling role in "Burn After Reading" of course. I shall now go into the corner and put the dunce hat on!
Respectfully,
D.

 

[Levorotatory]

Mind control category is pure rape

It can be, but it doesn't have to be. Character A forcing character B to do something they don't want to do by taking control of their mind is not the only option. The mind controlling entity could be a third party that knows character A and character B secretly desire each other, and gives them a push to get them together. Or there is the "sex pollen" trope where the mind alteration is a result of a chance environmental exposure and not a malicious sentient being.

 

[TheLobster]

Coffee is better than tea.

Tea is better than coffee

Alright, I think we can call the thread here. It cannot possibly get any more controversial than that.

 

[sister jenny]

Writing is very subconscious and the last thing I want to do is think about it.

- Cormac McCarthy

 

[M_K_Babalon]

We don't get enough space aliens, clones, dinosaurs, androids, or genetically engineered sex specimens in our erotica!

You should read Spare Parts, then.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

Root beer tastes like cheap and shitty toothpaste.

The "best" soft-drink is Fentimans naturally-fermted ginger beer. The second best is San Pellegrino Limonata.

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for our deprived brethren and sistren across the pond - sucks to be you

See... you lost credibility saying lemon anything taste good. Not that you were right on root beer, anyway.

 

[nice90sguy]

Not sure how controversial this is, but...

"Well-written" doesn't imply "worth reading", and vice-versa.

 

[Erozetta]

Alright, I think we can call the thread here. It cannot possibly get any more controversial than that.

Both suck.

 

[nice90sguy]

Female empowerment is a suitable topic for an erotic story.

I'm pissed-off and happy in equal measures that this is still considered controversial: Pissed off because, if it were less controversial, I'd probably have more readers. Happy, because I'm a contrarian.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

Men demean themselves more at strip clubs than the women.

Its the men lining up to pay to see naked women. Throwing money at them, paying for them to grind in their lap and in some places paying for more than that. Men acting like drooling dogs with no self respect like they've never seen a pair of tits before and having to pay to do it.

Spacones in their thousand dollar suit bragging that they paid a woman to dance on their lap like its an achievement.

Then of course we get the moralists blaming the women for being there and tempting men.

Because you know, they go outside and drag them in, so let's add typical lack of male accountability to the mix.

But yeah, its like Only Fans, "Those women doing anything for money!" Well, tell me, Mr. Man, who is paying them all that money? Pretty sure its men.

Supply and demand and men are the demand and the losers will pay to go watch a woman strip because they think its makes them men.

I'd say rant over, but I've been man bashing since way the hell before the net and not going to stop.

I've been to a strip club once in my life for my longtime best friend's 40th birthday party because that's what he wanted. I looked around and was appalled at how guys act in there. Have some fucking dignity

I don't really care for strip clubs either. I've only been twice willingly, the other times were because I delivered pizza. One time I did and three of the chicks were just sitting on the stage playing cards.

 

[CuriousJInLA]

I don’t know if it’s controversial, but getting what you desire is rarely as satisfying as the pursuit of getting what you desire

 

[nice90sguy]

I object to the vice versa. “Worth reading” has to be “well written.”

Yay it IS controversial

 

[M_K_Babalon]

Tea is better than coffee

But plain black tea is the worst tea.

Sometimes I brew coffee with a teabag. It'd good.