Would you marry your cousin? It's okay (they say.)

Cheyenne

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Being more than kissing cousins OK
Fears of passing defects to offspring overblown, research finds
Denise Grady, New York Times
Thursday, April 4, 2002
©2002 San Francisco Chronicle

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/04/04/MN91383.DTL


Contrary to widely held beliefs and long-standing taboos in America, first cousins can have children together without a great risk of birth defects or genetic disease, scientists are reporting today. They say there is no biological reason to discourage cousins from marrying.

First cousins are somewhat more likely than unrelated parents to have a child with a serious birth defect, mental retardation or genetic disease, but their increased risk is nowhere near as large as most people think, the scientists said.

In the general population, the risk that a child will be born with a problem such as spina bifida or cystic fibrosis is 3 to 4 percent; to that background risk, first cousins must add 1.7 to 2.8 percentage points, the researchers said.

Although the increase represents a near doubling of the risk, the result is still not considered large enough to discourage people from having children, said Dr. Arno Motulsky, a professor emeritus of medicine at the University of Washington and the senior author of the report.

"In terms of general risks in life, it's not very high," Motulsky said.

The report is being published today in the Journal of Genetic Counseling.

The researchers, a panel convened by the National Society of Genetic Counselors, based their conclusions on a review of six major studies conducted from 1965 to August 2000, involving many thousands of births.

Motulsky said medical geneticists had known for a long time that there was little or no harm in cousins marrying and having children. "Somehow, this hasn't become general knowledge," he said, even among doctors.

California is among the states that allow cousins to marry. But 24 states have laws forbidding marriage for first cousins and seven have limits like requiring genetic counseling. No countries in Europe have such prohibitions, and in parts of the Middle East, Africa and Asia, marriages between cousins are considered preferable.

Motulsky said many immigrants from cultures where cousin marriages are common are expected to continue the tradition in America, and doctors and genetic counselors should respect their wishes. He said the American laws against cousin marriage should be abolished.

Motulsky said researchers did not know why marriage between cousins was viewed with such distaste in America, although he said some of the revulsion may have stemmed from the eugenics movement that flourished here early in the 20th century.

It is not known how many cousins marry or live together. Estimates of marriages between related people, which include first cousins and more distant ones, range from less than 0.1 percent of the general population to 1.5 percent. In the past, small studies have found much higher rates in some areas:

A survey in 1942 found 18.7 percent in a small town in Kentucky, and a 1980 study found 33 percent in a Mennonite community in Kansas.

The report made a point of saying that the term "incest" should not be applied to cousins but only to sexual relations between siblings or between parents and children. Babies who result from those unions are thought to be at significantly higher risk of genetic problems, the report said, but there is not enough data to be sure.

Motulsky said that the panel of experts began working on the cousin question about two years ago after a survey of counselors found a lot of misinformation in the advice given to people who wanted to know whether cousins could safely have children.

The article includes a personal account from a woman who said she had lived with her cousin for six years "and we are madly in love." When she became pregnant, her gynecologist warned that the child would be sickly and urged her to have an abortion. Describing herself as heartbroken, the woman had the abortion, which she called "the worst mistake of my life."

The small increase in risk is thought to occur because related people may be carrying some of the same disease-causing genes, inherited from common ancestors. Unrelated people share fewer genes, so their risk of illness is a bit lower.

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Nope. I think I mentioned my reason before. My relatives are screwed up in the head.

Thankfully, I'm normal....:rolleyes:
 
Would I marry my cousin?

No way, apart from the fact that he's my cousin (I don't care what they say) he's a disgusting slob. :D
 
Cheyenne said:

A survey in 1942 found 18.7 percent in a small town in Kentucky, and a 1980 study found 33 percent in a Mennonite community in Kansas.


So, who lives in Kentucky or Kansas? :D
 
if i were to ever get to that point in a relationship with one, i would.
 
Chey, I'm sure you'll be thrilled to know that Marxist posted this this morning.
 
Fuck no.


Uh,although i was once asleep in a bed while he fucked a girlfriend who was sleeping in the bed next to me.
Okay well she was OBVIOUSLY awake but you know what i mean.




I learnt to feign sleep REALLY really well when i lived with her.
 
Rubyfruit said:
Chey, I'm sure you'll be thrilled to know that Marxist posted this this morning.

Oh, is he back? :p Didn't see it.

Went to look for it now- same topic, but different article.
 
Nope, I could never marry my cousin. I don't have any 1st cousins that are male, but I do have lots of 2nd and 3rd ones that are pretty cute, but the thought of marrying a relative is just not right!
 
SexySlut2 said:
Nope, I could never marry my cousin. I don't have any 1st cousins that are male, but I do have lots of 2nd and 3rd ones that are pretty cute, but the thought of marrying a relative is just not right!

I think a great part of the reason that we think marrying a relative "is just not right" is because we've always been told birth defects would result from such unions. Take away that restriction and then it is purely a moral issue. American morals differ from those in much of the rest of the world on this topic.
 
When I was a kid I thought my cousin was the girl for me. I told my mom I wanted to marry her when I grew up, and mom thought it was funny. Then she just said "No."

So, instead my cousin--who is a hopeless romantic like myself--has ended up in a string of bad relationships with fuckwads who used and abused her.

Maybe I should've stuck to my guns. ;)
 
nope never

nope never would i...although i am close to my cousins ...and from an objective viewpoint they are all very cute...i could never think of them like that...they are like my brothers...i could never ever marry date or anything like that...just would creep me out ewwwww.....they are family....:confused: :confused: :confused: ...NO WAY
 
Cheyenne said:


Oh, is he back? :p Didn't see it.

Went to look for it now- same topic, but different article.



??????

Looks the same to me. I think you got an excerpt. But it doesn't matter who got what first, it just proves that mediocre minds like you and me do think alike.

We're practically twins minus that floppy thing and pigment deficit.
 
We have had some cousin marriages in my family, but that was back in like the 1700s. It was an economic decsion, probably.
 
Ok, my great Aunt and Uncle are first cousins and 2 generations later, the kids on that side are still NOT right. So I'd advise against it.
 
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My grandparents were cousins, and look how well I turned out!
 
First off, My male first cousins are all married and range in age from 15-20 years older than me. Second off, I would not marry either of them for the simple fact that they're part of my family. I don't want to inflict those sort of inlaws on my worst enemy, let alone myself!
 
I just knew it was true! Those crazy Kentuckians!

There's no way in hell I would marry/date/reproduce with my cousin. Nuh uh.

Besides the weird out factor, he used to give me wet willies. Would you date a guy who used to give you wet willies and swirlies? I think not.
 
i dont think i would, my family is not all there, what about you baby? there was that one time u told me about
 
Considering there are like six billion other people on the face of the earth to choose from why would I resort to being with a cousin? I have a first cousin who's cute but that wouldn't be right, she's like the closest thing I've got to a little sister.
 
Well the only cousin I was ever attracted to was a 5th cousin. Some of my first cousins are cool but I never thought of them in that way and they are all married now.
 
Hawaiian tradition forbids marrying of cousins, if I wanted to date a Hawaiian guy, our relatives would have to check our genealogies to make sure we weren't related.

If I weren't Hawaiian and ended up in a relationship with a first cousin, then I wouldn't have any problems with it on a moral issue, however divorces can be nasty things anyway and being related would just compound the issue, I'd think. They could tear not only your immediate family, but the extended family up as well.
 
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