working across the aisle to get things done

[butters]

After the success of getting the debt-ceiling vote through with the help of both sides of the aisle, there's talk amongst the more centrist republican House members looking to bypass the right-wing hardliners in their conference by working around them, with democrats, to get vital work done and moved on to the Senate.

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.), a prominent member of several centrist and bipartisan groups, floated doing an end-run around the right by soliciting Democratic votes to pass procedural measures typically passed along party lines.
"We’re going to have to have Democrats vote on rule votes," he said on Tuesday. "I would rather pass meaningful legislation that can get through the Senate and leave the 11 to the side. They can raise holy hell by themselves.

speaking about the debacle last week where votes were blocked by the far-right:

“We had a handful of individuals who spoke for the 95% ... The 95% are rightfully pissed," Bacon said of the blowup.

"If you're unwilling to vote for a bill, then you don't really have influence over the bill," Rep. Blake Moore (R-Utah), the vice chair of the center-right Republican Governance Group, told Axios. Biden-district Rep. Marc Molinaro (R-N.Y.) told Axios: "We have a bipartisan government which demands bipartisan agreement in order to move appropriations legislation or any policy. I think acknowledging the reality shouldn't be terribly difficult," Molinaro added. "The reality is we need a bipartisan solution to any problem."

it's kind of a beautiful thing to see adults working together to do the jobs they were elected to do; it is the only way to resolve issues when vote-number advantages are so small.

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/13/ho...m-caucus-centrists?utm_source=microsoft-start

 

[Intrigued42]

To that end, a number of congressmen and women, from both parties, have been working across the aisle for years now. They look for common ground and find acceptable alternatives to extreme views. Compromise is key in our families, in our communities and in our nation. The juvenile "me, me, my way or the highway" and those that blatantly lie to make headlines really get nothing accomplished. This caucus has been getting things done for the country for several years now: https://problemsolverscaucus.house.gov/about I am constantly encouraging my representatives to consider joining and helping this cause. We should all be doing so, I think.

 

[KeithD]

As I've noted before, I think that the Democrats can use their voting strength to pull McCarthy away from the MAGA block of Republicans and get some work done.

 

[Dribble]

As I've noted before, I think that the Democrats can use their voting strength to pull McCarthy away from the MAGA block of Republicans and get some work done.

Never gonna happen. Why? Because the cancer is too deep in both Parties

Edit...but it would be good for the country if they did

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

A good example of the two parties working together to pass common sense legislation happened yesterday with the bipartisan passage in the House of The Gas Stove Protection and Freedom Act. This bill would bar the Consumer Product Safety Commission from regulating or banning stoves based on the false claim that they are health hazards. It passed Tuesday, 248-180, with 29 Democrats joining the GOP majority. Unfortunately Biden would surely veto it if it were to pass in the Senate but it still demonstrates that Congressional bipartisanship can and does work on occasion.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Never gonna happen. Why? Because the cancer is too deep in both Parties

Edit...but it would be good for the country if they did

Democrats have kept trying to work across the aisle even as the Republican Party has slipped deeper into extremism. If some Republicans start making an attempt to compromise, a lot of Democrats will meet them halfway.

 

[phrodeau]

regulating or banning stoves based on the false claim that they are health hazards.

Which claims are false?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-health-risks-of-gas-stoves-explained/?amp=true

 

[Dribble]

Weird....they believed wearing a mask increases their CO2 intake. But burning a stove doesn't increase CO2 in the kitchen. Must be because their windows are open all year long?

Personally, I think the banning of gas stoves is stupid and nothing but catering to a demographic you already stabbed in the back by allowing legislation to pass that really impedes making a difference. It won't work. We see the hypocrisy.

I cook. I am a damn good cook. Sorry...electric stoves suck when trying to control the heat

 

[jaF0]

Fully and completely opposed to any form of ban or restriction on LP or NatGas appliances.

 

[IARainman]

Weird....they believed wearing a mask increases their CO2 intake. But burning a stove doesn't increase CO2 in the kitchen. Must be because their windows are open all year long?

Personally, I think the banning of gas stoves is stupid and nothing but catering to a demographic you already stabbed in the back by allowing legislation to pass that really impedes making a difference. It won't work. We see the hypocrisy.

I cook. I am a damn good cook. Sorry...electric stoves suck when trying to control the heat

Yup, a feel good tactic. The electricity has to get generated somewhere….

 

[IARainman]

We’re going to need a leader, a true leader, who wants this to be their legacy.

I blame the parties. The parties sow division in order to drive support to their party. They focus on the things that divide us in order to drive home the point of, “You can’t risk allowing this bad thing to happen by voting for the other party,” so the division keeps growing. Add gerrymandering and congressional districts now are no longer comprised of a like constituency. So an incumbent must Please the party, rather than their constituents in order to hold on to power.

I thought, for a very brief moment, that Obama might make progress with his “beer in the rose garden” but they held one session and threw up their arms, saying, “oh well, what are you going to do.” We need someone to say, “we’re going to meet in private (leaders of the parties) and after we meet, we’re going to address the public, together. We’ll tell what we discussed, agreed upon and disagreed on, and we’ll meet again next week.” So, over time, the voters will see who is truly representing them, and decide their leaders based on these actions.

I’m not at all hopeful we will find such leaders. Just wish it could happen.

 

[butters]

California Democrat Adam Schiff was saved from a Congressional censure—and a possible $16 million fine—Wednesday after a number of colleagues from across the aisle crossed party lines to strike it down.

On Wednesday, 20 Republicans voted down legislation brought by Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna to begin a process to censure, condemn, and fine Schiff for his "egregious abuse of the trust of the American people" throughout the course of his investigation of alleged ties between former President Donald Trump and Russia during his administration. Two additional Republicans voted "present" on the bill, while four didn't vote at all.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=df9f82e686384b838aac78610107f0e2&ei=162

 

[BluesDriver66]

Amazing how so many people can be hoodwinked and satisfied by crumbs. When do we get universal health care like the rest of the world?. We are the only western nation that doesn't have universal health care. As a result at least 45,000 Americans die needlessly every year.

The United States needs major and fundamental change. Where we need a fully staffed and equipped trauma unit the Democrats working across the aisle can only manage to deliver dollar store cotton swabs and off brand Band-aids.

The majority of Americans want universal health care and both the Democrats and the Republicans in power refuse to provide it. Shake your poms poms when these corporate bought whores actually deliver something that Americans desperately want and need. Not this Kabuki theater of the absolute bare minimum masquerading as serving the needs of the public.

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage​

early 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by the American Journal of Public Health. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/st...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

Majority in U.S. Say Healthcare Is Government Responsibility​

In 2000, Gallup began tracking the public’s views of whether it is the federal government’s responsibility to ensure all Americans have healthcare coverage and has found considerable fluctuation. From 2000 through 2008, majorities ranging from 54% to 69% believed the federal government should ensure universal coverage in the U.S.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/468401/majority-say-gov-ensure-healthcare.aspx

 

[butters]

wind yer neck in, bluesdriver... i come from england and it is GLARINGLY obvious the british health system serves its population better than the american one does its own, and that's WITH all the problems caused by tories trying to break it into pieces.

nobody's suggesting these small victories are the end game; the kind of changes Americans want (and need) when it comes to national health will only ever be achieved through enough people voting democrat...until that happens, until americans take it into their own hands to rise up and VOTE to give a democrat president, senate and house the power to manifest these changes, they'll not happen. Not for a long time coming. So we take pleasure in the french fries whilst looking towards the whole damned potato crop.

 

[KeithD]

We’re going to need a leader, a true leader, who wants this to be their legacy.

I blame the parties. The parties sow division in order to drive support to their party. They focus on the things that divide us in order to drive home the point of, “You can’t risk allowing this bad thing to happen by voting for the other party,” so the division keeps growing. Add gerrymandering and congressional districts now are no longer comprised of a like constituency. So an incumbent must Please the party, rather than their constituents in order to hold on to power.

I thought, for a very brief moment, that Obama might make progress with his “beer in the rose garden” but they held one session and threw up their arms, saying, “oh well, what are you going to do.” We need someone to say, “we’re going to meet in private (leaders of the parties) and after we meet, we’re going to address the public, together. We’ll tell what we discussed, agreed upon and disagreed on, and we’ll meet again next week.” So, over time, the voters will see who is truly representing them, and decide their leaders based on these actions.

I’m not at all hopeful we will find such leaders. Just wish it could happen.

Sorry, Republican outrageousness has negated the "both sides" argument.

 

[BluesDriver66]

wind yer neck in, bluesdriver... i come from england and it is GLARINGLY obvious the british health system serves its population better than the american one does its own, and that's WITH all the problems caused by tories trying to break it into pieces.

nobody's suggesting these small victories are the end game; the kind of changes Americans want (and need) when it comes to national health will only ever be achieved through enough people voting democrat...until that happens, until americans take it into their own hands to rise up and VOTE to give a democrat president, senate and house the power to manifest these changes, they'll not happen. Not for a long time coming. So we take pleasure in the french fries whilst looking towards the whole damned potato crop.

We've had that several times and the Democrats fail to fight for it or deliver. Your premise is that the Democrats who take hundreds of millions dollars from insurance and drug companies actually want universal health care. Wake up and get woke. They don't. They have never and will never fight for universal health care as the party currently exists.

 

[butters]

more working across the aisle:

an odd band of co-sponsors for the DEFIANCE bill

The Disrupt Explicit Forged Images and Non-Consensual Edits (DEFIANCE) Act would allow a civil right of action against those who’ve produced or possessed sexually explicit “digital forgeries” of an individual without their consent and with the intention to share them publicly.

Introduced by Senators Dick Durbin (D-IL), Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and Josh Hawley (R-MO), the DEFIANCE Act would combat the growing number of sexually explicit AI pictures surfacing “used to exploit and harass women — particularly public figures, politicians, and celebrities.” While Swift’s case is the latest, she’s among numerous individuals who’ve fallen victim to this recent online trend.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle...1&cvid=8bb879f6a47f4580ba8726e6a6855938&ei=53

and the House passing this bipartisan tax package:

The House voted on Wednesday evening to pass a $78 billion bipartisan tax package that would temporarily expand the child tax credit and restore a number of business tax benefits.

The bill will next go to the Senate. House Speaker Mike Johnson currently oversees a razor-thin majority, but the bill passed with rare bipartisan support. The vote was 357 to 70 with 188 Democrats and 169 Republicans voting in favor and 23 Democrats and 47 Republicans opposed.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/31/politics/house-vote-tax-bill-child-tax-credit/index.html

 

[Pad_Foot]

The MIDDLE should rule! How the fuck did either side’s extremist take the reins??

Our media sucks!!

Then again those politicians must also suck for not getting the public to listen to them!!

Why is there a marriage penalty with the SALT tax deductions? The right wing made that a catch phrase. I’ve given up hop that the Dems care about the Blue State Rape.
I thought about filing separately from my wife, but, as second class citizens, that splits our $10k marriage deduction allowance between us. Totally logical ….