Women....

[Guest]

Why do you...

always play games?

say that youll call but never do?

only show intrest in a nice guy when your feeling down?

act like you are the only ones in the world that matter?

always take everything a man has to give but never give anything back?


Well maybe those are just my questions but im running out of emotional resources and im yet to meet any woman/ girls / thing whom would return any for of affection i have shown towards them.
Personality types and cultural backgrounds do not matter....
in the end it allways ends the same... with me having have had given a little of my self to one of you and not having had recieved anything in return.

I dont ask for much just a little affection maybe someone to hold hands with a peck on the cheek and an intelligent conversation...

but as always it is too much to hope for.

For those whom are going to post the cusomary "hang in there"
and "i married a nice guy" messages...
dont bother...
because that like most of the things women say/ promise are nothing more then just a load of XXXX.


Ill go to sleep now in the hope that i wont wake up again.

Oh and thanks a lot for everything...

If your wondering what kind of people i have just described.....
well if you drink, are religious, have had boyfirends, party in general, use drugs or have had sex you are the ones i mean.
Try taking a minute to think about how those actions of yours might affect the people around you.. and what the consecuences and repercutions of you "fun" may be to others.


or maybe its just me and the fact that i dont drink, smoke or party etc...
and have had to suffer a great deal at the hands of those whom do..
maybe there is really something truly wrong with me because of that and i have to be punished for that what ever it is.

 

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green eyed want to read the last paragraph of my post again?...

but then again your responce of what one expect from someone whom propably drinks parties and sleeps around?

and i suppose you always though of how your actions afected others when you were our "having fun".

have some patience and read trough the post before replying.

 

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[jennaflower]

Looserboy.. I can't be sure (since you haven't filled in a profile), but I am betting that you are a weee bit young yet. IF, in your life you are dealing with women who pass up the "good" ones in favor of the ones that don't deserve them, then you are probably dealing with individuals who are emotionally immature. You might want to consider widening your base of candidates... how about leaving those alone and look at the older women who are more in tune with their own needs... and more interested in substance in a relationship... shoot for the 30's and 40's and you might be doing yourself a great service... just my thoughts.. good luck...

 

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Emerald....

i do respect women but i have yet to meet one that would extend the same courtesy towards me....


as to my original post.. there was quite a bit of cynicism in there so try to separate that form the original post....

but in any occation those questions i made were quite real.

its always games.... too many games.... just wondering why do women bother with them and why should i bother with women any more because of them?

i dont have self pity... just depression over loneliness and i do
try to redeem that situation every now and again but i always get a negative responce from women....
90% of the time im cheery and as "normal" as anyone else.. so go figure.

 

[Guest]

as to my oppinion on therapy.... anyone see that MAD tv scetch on therapy..... "stop it"... and so on....

efficient and true. the only way it works.

 

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and the commentary on "party hearty" people was meant towards everyone out there whom practices such behavior.

Since none of them ever think about how their actions affect others... and believe me ive had nothing but pain and suffering in my life because of that...

im getting over it but i still resent those people/ actions quite a bit.

 

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emerald...
i dont assume that all women are like that... i merely tried to make the point that all of the women i have met have been like that....
and that is unlikely to change.

 

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tania...
like i meantioned before... 90% of the time im as normal and cheery as anyone else and i dont mention my experieces to a woman unless they start to complain first about their exboyfriends etc.

simply because apparently men are not allowed to have baggage.

as to my experiece things... well its just not a few...
its each and every one of the ones ive tried/ had to deal with .....
and in one way or an other they always play games.....

again its my exerience... that is yet to change.

 

[bhambabygirl]

Try this

I have heard this story from so many of the guys who IM me online "Im the nice guy and I get walked all over"

#1 - If you become totally obsessed and your life revolved around her within a week, she will walk all over you

#2 - If you are finding women in clubs, bars, or similar locations, DO NOT expect anything else...you got to those places to find a one night stand or a short term fling...not a long term meaningful relationship...not to say those dont happen too, but they are the exception, not the rule....

#3 - I agree with the earlier post to broaden your range...find women who are emotionally mature enough to handle relationships...in other words, find women seeking the same things you are

#4 - QUIT trying to force it...I found the love of my life when I wasnt looking for anything. He e-mailed me one day out of the blue, we started chatting, and we have been together since...that was in January, and we have the best relationship....and he's one of the good guys, but he does things that earn my respect too...if she dont respect you, the the realtionship has no chance in hell of surviving...

Good Luck!

 

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Tania_Rides...
its not just the few of the bad ones ive met its all of them even the socalled "nece" ones... they most of the time just dont realise that their actions can harm others...
and the games are just as bad and its simple stuff like flirting with the guy they know is single... forgetting to mention the boyfriend of 5 years when making friends with that person etc...

just the little fun experience of mine.

Oh and here is a small question for you all...
of all the nonreligious women you know of how many of them do not drink or use any drugs what so ever?
How many of the ones whom you do know of would rather spend
a friday night talking to someone intelligent and nice
or would they rather "go out and party".

Anyone whom "parties" in my book is not a nice person.
(Refer back to the pain and suffering things i mentioned earlier.)

 

[Guest]

bhambabygirl....

you missed the whole point of this query.... and you "adivice" is completely useless because of that. Not to even mention the fact that you did not even bother to read on some of the posts i put up afterwards.

how about trying to answer some of the questions i posted to begin with and try reading my posts afterwards to get a littlebit of a more accurate picture of what im about.

 

[Freya]

and the commentary on "party hearty" people was meant towards everyone out there whom practices such behavior.

Since none of them ever think about how their actions affect others... and believe me ive had nothing but pain and suffering in my life because of that...

im getting over it but i still resent those people/ actions quite a bit.

I just need to say - bullshit. You know what? I do drink, and I go out with my friends on the weekends and we party it up and have a good time. And guess what? I constantly think of other people, and I never intentionally harm another, and I and my friends are probably some of the most caring, unselfish people you'd ever meet.

So what? Some girl flirted with you at a bar or party, and you fell for it and her and it didn't work out, and so all people that drink and have a good time are pieces of shit? Get over yourself. What a judgemental, stereotyping post that is.

Try opening your mind a little bit - try not to group or stereotype all people because of the actions of a few - try not to be so obsessive and judegmental - and possibly you will find that for which you are searching.

 

[curvacious]

Your ID gives me a big hint. You call yourself a loser. If you think you're a loser, what do you think the rest of the world thinks of you (since you're probably projecting that image very well). Grow up and realize that things will happen as they happen. No need in worrying over stuff. If you happen to meet "bad" women just chalk it up as experience and be glad they gave you and idea as to what you don't want in a woman. Quit moaning and bitching about your life and find something in it that's good and when you start to feel better about yourself, you'll find that you attract more people to you (and thus maybe someone that isn't bad).

 

[Lust Engine]

again its my exerience... that is yet to change.

Seeing as how you're indifferent to encouragement or any words of advice and you seem to want more of a soap box to vent more than anything else.

I see you post "again its my experience... that is yet to change"- why is this the case? YOU seem to be repeating the habit & not wanting to break the chain. Obviously from your point of view the world is a cruel & dark place. Why not take some responsibility for your actions?

I'm not making light of your experiences but take some responsibility for the actions you're going to take. Realize you attract like people to you. YOU have an impact on people too.

 

[bhambabygirl]

I didnt miss the point...you aint getting lucky and you want the rest of us to feel bad for you...aint gonna happen.

I am not a religious person, and i do absolutely no drugs, and aside from a glass of wine on occasion, I dont drink either. I also know people who drink and do so many drugs they can hardly think straight, but they still go to church every sunday and are "religious" so that has nothing to do with it....

As for the whole thing...my guess is that you are probably underaged and unpopular and hate everyone, therefore you log in here and bitch a little...get a little pity, and everything will be alright...

I do think at this point you should probably be focusing on things a little more important than why you arent having luck with the girls

Just a thought (an analogy) - if you hate the way the vodka makes you feel...why do you keep drinking the vodka?

meaning...if you want the end result to change, you have to change what you do to get there....
2+2 will always equal four...

 

[Lust Engine]

Your ID gives me a big hint. You call yourself a loser. If you think you're a loser, what do you think the rest of the world thinks of you (since you're probably projecting that image very well). Grow up and realize that things will happen as they happen. No need in worrying over stuff. If you happen to meet "bad" women just chalk it up as experience and be glad they gave you and idea as to what you don't want in a woman. Quit moaning and bitching about your life and find something in it that's good and when you start to feel better about yourself, you'll find that you attract more people to you (and thus maybe someone that isn't bad).

Well put curvacious! Hear hear!!!

 

[absentminded]

looserboy

This may come as a bit of a shock, but if you look hard enough, you're going to find a flaw with every single person (not just woman) you ever meet - inluding yourself.

There was a time when I really did think that every single woman on the face of the earth was the spawn of the devil. After about six months of dating what I thought were absolutly horrible woman, I sat down and looked at myself. Sure I've got some positives and I won't bore you with those, but I've also got some nasty negatives of my own. I'm a perfectionist and have trouble accepting failure and can be hard on people because of it. I'm also kind of vain and spend far far too much time worrying about my appearance. Anyhow, my point...

Woman aren't perfect and neither are you or I. If all you do is pay attention to the bad points you really are going to think there are a lot of nasty woman out there when that simply isn't the case.

 

[capricious_chic]

Women....
Why do you...

always play games?


Because we can.. anyone who plays games with another does so because THAT person allowed them to. It is not exclusive to women. If someone is playing games with you, it is because YOU allowed it.


say that youll call but never do?

Again, something not exclusive to women. Do you even have any women friends?? If you did you would realize that this happens to everyone! Move on, don't wait by the phone tapping your fingers.


only show intrest in a nice guy when your feeling down?


"Nice" guy is just a label.. and usually self appointed.



act like you are the only ones in the world that matter?


I am the only one that matters to me. No one else is going to give a damn one way or the other. I can only take responsibility for myself, as you should do. If YOU are allowing someone to be your entire focus, then YOU need to find something within yourself to focus on.


always take everything a man has to give but never give anything back?

If you are going to offer me anything and everything, I am going to take it. It is human nature to take, for a few to give as well.
Again, not exclusive to women. Why are you giving to someone that isn't giving anything back to you? Are you trying to buy their affection.. could be the problem right there.

Ill go to sleep now in the hope that i wont wake up again.

Sounds like you need some meds.. this is not normal. Regardless of you saying you are happy most of the time, this is not a statement that should be made lightly, and rarely garners any sympathy.

If your wondering what kind of people i have just described..... well if you drink, are religious, have had boyfirends, party in general, use drugs or have had sex you are the ones i mean.
Try taking a minute to think about how those actions of yours might affect the people around you.. and what the consecuences and repercutions of you "fun" may be to others.

or maybe its just me and the fact that i dont drink, smoke or party etc...
and have had to suffer a great deal at the hands of those whom do..
maybe there is really something truly wrong with me because of that and i have to be punished for that what ever it is.

I doubt that there are many people that will fit your "perfect" criteria. Many fit into the description you stated.. male and female. I take responsibility for myself, and don't expect or want another to do so for me. I deal with my own consequences, and weigh the repercutions. It seems to me that you are attracted to addicts of some sort. Perhaps YOU are co-dependant. Take responsibility for YOUR actions in getting involved with people that are not like minded, nor live similar life styles. Why would you want to get involved with someone who would put their "fun" above your relationship. Why would YOU want to stay in a relationship like this? Why would YOU be sad that it ended?

i do respect women but i have yet to meet one that would extend the same courtesy towards me....

I agree with EE here. You do NOT respect women. It seems that you want some perfect woman that does not exist. To get respect, one has to give it and warrant it.

its always games.... too many games.... just wondering why do women bother with them and why should i bother with women any more because of them?
i dont have self pity... just depression over loneliness and i do
try to redeem that situation every now and again but i always get a negative responce from women....
90% of the time im cheery and as "normal" as anyone else.. so go figure.

Read my above statement. Games are only played when it is allowed.

Yes, you are so caught up in your SELF PITY that no one else is going to offer you the kindness you seek. No one could match the amount of pity you have for yourself. You have to find happiness within yourself. You can not look to another for happiness. Until such a time that you are whole and able to have a real relationship, you shouldn't try to be in one. If you are garnering negative responses, then you are seeking them.

i dont assume that all women are like that... i merely tried to make the point that all of the women i have met have been like that....

Then it is YOUR responsibility to find women that are more to your liking... not THEIR responsibility to change for you.

Oh and here is a small question for you all...of all the nonreligious women you know of how many of them do not drink or use any drugs what so ever?
How many of the ones whom you do know of would rather spend
a friday night talking to someone intelligent and nice
or would they rather "go out and party".

Anyone whom "parties" in my book is not a nice person.
(Refer back to the pain and suffering things i mentioned earlier.)

What does it matter? YOU are the one seeking these people out.
Your opinions are not NICE. The only people I know who would rather "party" instead of spending the evening with someone worthy are all like.. oh.. 17, or an addict. You are the only one who can control YOUR pain and suffering. It is YOUR responsibility to find happiness, no one elses. If you are unhappy with the people YOU CHOOSE to spend time with, then YOU need to change the menu.

how about trying to answer some of the questions i posted to begin with and try reading my posts afterwards to get a littlebit of a more accurate picture of what im about.

Your questions are answered. You don't need to respond, I am positive I have you accurately pegged.

 

[hotNnasty]

Seeing as how you're indifferent to encouragement or any words of advice and you seem to want more of a soap box to vent more than anything else.

I see you post "again its my experience... that is yet to change"- why is this the case? YOU seem to be repeating the habit & not wanting to break the chain. Obviously from your point of view the world is a cruel & dark place. Why not take some responsibility for your actions?

I'm not making light of your experiences but take some responsibility for the actions you're going to take. Realize you attract like people to you. YOU have an impact on people too.

I just hang on to every word you type darlin'


Trollin' LE

 

[peachykeen]

I think it's pretty clear that this guy is not open to any kind of actual dialogue, and just wants to be a big whiner. Wallowing in self-pity is soooo not sexy. Just about anything I could think to say has already been said eloquently by the other folks here, so....

 

[raven7647]

Longtime lurker, hope I don't embarrass myself too much by this post.

Loserboy: I find it very hard to believe that every women you have every met has been as heartless and insensitive as you have described. It must have something to do with the way you interact with women. As a guy, I have many female friends that are nothing like you describe. I have far more male acquaintances who fit your description of the women you know.

Even though I disagree with most of your post, I do sometimes have similar feelings (just not all the time). I am a non-drinker, non-smoker, non-partier (like you were describing) who struggles with finding women who, like you said, would rather spend a Friday evening having a meaningful discussion rather than going out to party. My frustration is that many of the women I would consider dating end up going out with the wild party guys and then coming to me wondering why guys are such jerks.

Granted, I am only 21, so maybe I need to wait around another decade to let my female friends mature a little. Are there any other guys out there that have ever experienced this?