Women under 25 and bi-ness

[WriterDom]

Seems trendy to be bi these days.

Just saying.

 

[Harmony_1985]

I've known since I was 19.

 

[ZRT]

Anything that enhances your edge in the dating game is going to become a popular activity for the kids. Guys like girls making out. Girls will make out to attract guys.

Since I like girls making out, I have no objections.

 

[JMohegan]

How do people here define "bisexual"?

Two females making out to attract a guy doesn't necessarily indicate dual sexual orientation, as I see it.

 

[graceanne]

I've noticed that, too. Including lots of girls who are 'bi' who've never had a relationship with a woman.

What's up with that? If all your relationships are with men, then you're not bi you just don't mind (as chicklet says) using women for sex. Chicklet calls it's heteroflexible.

 

[graceanne]

How do people here define "bisexual"?

Two females making out to attract a guy doesn't necessarily indicate dual sexual orientation, as I see it.

LOL Great minds and all that.

I define bisexual as someone who like both men and women equally. If you're a girl and you've only ever had relationships with men and are only interested in relationships with men, then you're just (as I said above) hetero-flexible.

 

[ZRT]

I subscribe to the rainbow notion of sexuality, that people fit somewhere on the spectrum from fully hetero to fully homo and lots of shadings in between. That contrasts with the rigid identifiers that society hands out, and you end up with young women who are not so rigidly hetero being defined as bisexual because they're comfortable enough to engage in some degree of intimate or sexual contact with other women in order to get their more desired hetero relationships. As always, you'll have those who might be more rigidly hetero doing it just to keep up with the competition, much like a lot of the other sort of things that men and women will make themselves endure to play the game.

 

[LovingDom86]

It's because the unfortunate majority of "young bi women" are males of various ages trying to hook up with actual "young bi women" who are most likely other males of various ages...

With all respect to the real deals out there, the honest truth is that the vast majority are complete and disgusting fakes. And that is a fact

 

[ZRT]

It's because the unfortunate majority of "young bi women" are males of various ages trying to hook up with actual "young bi women" who are most likely other males of various ages...

With all respect to the real deals out there, the honest truth is that the vast majority are complete and disgusting fakes. And that is a fact

Next you'll say that MMORPG really stands for 'Many Men Online Roleplaying Girls'.

 

[WriterDom]

It doesn't seem to have the same stigma as a guy being bi. Even though some women like intothewoods thinks guy on guy is the hottest thing in the world.

 

[BiBunny]

I've known I was bi since I was about 18. I'm 25 now. So, at this point, I don't really think it's going to be a passing phase, LOL.

I do prefer men to women, always have. But I've been in two actual relationships--not using just women for sex--with women in my life. Kitty and I have been together for over 6 years. And I'm owned by a man and a woman.

So I think that makes me "really bi."

 

[ZRT]

It doesn't seem to have the same stigma as a guy being bi. Even though some women like intothewoods thinks guy on guy is the hottest thing in the world.

Stereotyping. Gay guys are perceived as weak and effeminate, and being a bi guy pretty much means 'gay but does the occasional chick' to the public at large. Lesbians, on the other hand, have toughness stereotypes associated with them, so they're kinda vaguely more acceptable. Plus, bi girls of the under-25 set have the opposite perception- girls who like guys but are up for a fling with another girl. Toss in the fact that it's walking on the wild side and has liberation connotations, it's easy to see why it's more accepted.

 

[ZRT]

I've known I was bi since I was about 18. I'm 25 now. So, at this point, I don't really think it's going to be a passing phase, LOL.

I do prefer men to women, always have. But I've been in two actual relationships--not using just women for sex--with women in my life. Kitty and I have been together for over 6 years. And I'm owned by a man and a woman.

So I think that makes me "really bi."

I lived with a bi woman for a while, who generally preferred women over men. The distinction I've noticed is that the 'seriously bi' types don't make a big production out of it. It's integral to their identity, of course, but it's not done in the 'Hey! Look at me snog this chick!' fashion.

 

[Netzach]

Bisxuality was trendy when I was 20. Now it's passe. I'm all about the box marked "other."

I don't think I have to be 50/50 to consider myself bi, it's more a question of the fact that I could, have, and would sustain a relationship with the right woman.

Also the vast numbers of men experimenting, fucking, sucking, wistfully daydreaming about it - they're very underreported.

 

[myinnerslut]

its easier to be bi. its easier to be a lesbian. its easier to be gay. safe space training has made many, schools, classrooms, doctors, clubs, even libraries more accepting of homosexuality in many forms. under 25 year olds are in high school or college (for the most part). these are often the most accepting places of all. after all, colleges are where you will find many of the above mentioned safe space places. i know i saw the stickers all over the place on my campus.

not to mention lots of partying, drinking, experimenting. and experimenting in a place that is accepting means people think less of experimenting in bisexual ways. also most 25 and under grew up with internet access. i know ive been hitting the web since third grade. so there has been a whole lot more information available. i would argue more exposure to porn, including the girl-girl variety, as well.

so it makes good sense that more under 25s then before are bi.

 

[Netzach]

I lived with a bi woman for a while, who generally preferred women over men. The distinction I've noticed is that the 'seriously bi' types don't make a big production out of it. It's integral to their identity, of course, but it's not done in the 'Hey! Look at me snog this chick!' fashion.

Well, of course. You just snog the chick it's normal enough for you.

 

[Netzach]

How do people here define "bisexual"?

Two females making out to attract a guy doesn't necessarily indicate dual sexual orientation, as I see it.

The "easiness" factor diminishes the further your notion of bisexuality deviates from this gold standard of acceptable hot.

 

[LovingDom86]

Next you'll say that MMORPG really stands for 'Many Men Online Roleplaying Girls'.

Ha! I've never heard that one, but yes, I would agree with the acronym

 

[Homburg]

I'm with Netz. I think the bi male thing is going on more and more, and is just underreported. As was said, with men, there is that effeminate connotation. MIS has two very good male friends that are bi. Both are closeted and don't want people in their lives knowing about it. One has gone on to actually try it, and likes it, the other just fantasises.

As to the young women, it is as MIS says. The environment is more conducive to bi-girl memes than it used to be, which allows for experimentation. The Safe Spot concept extends to as much of the campus as possible, and the permissive atmosphere allows for attempts to be made with perhaps less guilt/shame than would normally be seen off-campus.

In my own case, I can't think of more than probably one male that I have known as a friend in my life that was okay with admitting to his bisexuality (outside of boards like this). I have one friend now that hints at it, and has been known to suck face with men when really drunk, but he doesn't actively talk about it. There is just too much stigma attached generally. As a result, my friends fall into pretty sharply drawn groups of either straight or gay. It is just how it is.

With my friend what takes a shine to the boys when drunk, nobody really cares. They might joke about it lightly, but I don't think a soul doubts his masculinity. Former marine, buff as hell, a complete pussy-magnet, and all-around great guy, his sexuality is not an issue. and he is far more comfortable with himself than most people.

I think it comes down to "Him? He's okay. Sure he likes to make out with guys, but, whatever," while the guy you don't know that is bisexual is an effeminate pansy. So it becomes a "Well, he's not like them," issue.

Overall, I don't care if it is trendy, real, fake, whatever. I dig bi chicks. Both of my girls are bi, and I consider this to be a feature. If the trend produces more women comfortable with bisexuality, bully for the trend. I also think that such a trend is good for society as a whole if it increases societal awareness of, and tolerance of, bisexuality, homosexuality, and general alternative sexual mores overall.

And, honestly, it is low to call someone else's sexual choices "fake". So they're kissing other girls to get attention. Whatever. I've got a friend that was a LUG (Lesbian Until Graduation), and she caught a LOT of hell for it from her lesbian friends. She tried to explain that she was bi, and had dated guys before college, but they didn't accept it. Whatever. No reason to be dicks to people just because they are "keen to do another one instead of the opposite" to quote a song I like

 

[ZRT]

And, honestly, it is low to call someone else's sexual choices "fake". So they're kissing other girls to get attention. Whatever. I've got a friend that was a LUG (Lesbian Until Graduation), and she caught a LOT of hell for it from her lesbian friends. She tried to explain that she was bi, and had dated guys before college, but they didn't accept it. Whatever. No reason to be dicks to people just because they are "keen to do another one instead of the opposite" to quote a song I like

I don't hold that sort of sexual activity against them, because I've got no interest in looking down on them. Hell, it's a much healthier activity than starving themselves into skeletons.

 

[nh23]

I've noticed that, too. Including lots of girls who are 'bi' who've never had a relationship with a woman.

What's up with that? If all your relationships are with men, then you're not bi you just don't mind (as chicklet says) using women for sex. Chicklet calls it's heteroflexible.

I kinda disagree with this. I've known that I had an attraction to women since I was 15 or so. I've had sexual relationships with several women, but never a typical one on one relationship. I do happen to have a preference for men, but if I'd met a woman I had wanted to be in a typical relationship with, I would have. It just never happened.

I don't use my being bi as jerk off foder for men. Master has even made it clear to me if I want private time with a woman I'm free to have it. With him away and not asking for details when I get back, and that is what I prefer. I'm not bi to make any man happy. I'm bi because it was the way I was born.

 

[CurlyKat]

I'm going to second the notion that that term "heteroflexible" should be used much more widely. It tends to be more accurate and will get around the "faker" arguments. The way I tend to think of things:

Homosexual/Gay/Lesbian: only interested in having any sort of sexual relationship or relationship in general with a person of the same sex.

Heterosexual: only interested in having any sort of sexual relationship or relationship in general with a person of the opposite sex.

Bisexual: interested in having sex with either men or women, and interested in having a relationship with either men or women.

Heteroflexible: willing to have sex with men or women, but leans more towards one than the other and is generally only interested in a relationship with one, not both.

Just my view on the world.

 

[ZRT]

I'm going to second the notion that that term "heteroflexible" should be used much more widely. It tends to be more accurate and will get around the "faker" arguments. The way I tend to think of things:

Homosexual/Gay/Lesbian: only interested in having any sort of sexual relationship or relationship in general with a person of the same sex.

Heterosexual: only interested in having any sort of sexual relationship or relationship in general with a person of the opposite sex.

Bisexual: interested in having sex with either men or women, and interested in having a relationship with either men or women.

Heteroflexible: willing to have sex with men or women, but leans more towards one than the other and is generally only interested in a relationship with one, not both.

Just my view on the world.

I like these. But then, I only fit the hetero category, so I imagine others might kick in their two cents.

 

[myinnerslut]

i used the term bi-curious for a while. i didnt want to declare myself bisexual without having been with a women, so bi-curious worked.

now ill say that im bisexual without any hesitation.

 

[katt_g]

And, honestly, it is low to call someone else's sexual choices "fake".

i know i don't comment on other's comments very often, but this is such an important statement!!

thanks for making it!

what is your choice is just that, and no one else should feel the need to judge it. sex, love, and relationships are a buffet, the beauty being the sheer volume of choices. and only you get to decide what items and how much of them go on your plate.