Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

[Mr. Bootie]

I posted this question on the general board, but I thought I might place it here as well.


What is the appeal for women to use a strap on?? What is this all about?? I mean no disrepect to the women that use them but why?? I am trying to understand this. I am not trying to criticize or put down, I'm only trying to understand this.


I've been told that "lesbians" are not trying to be men, so I'm wondering. If that is the case why use a strap on?? If women want t a cock. Why not get one that is already attached to a male. I'm just trying to figure out why the strap on. It appears to me that the women that are "taking" the strap on have nothing against a cock. But isn't the real thing better than fake??


Women using a strap on can "simulate" fucking, but is it really the same as a man?? Hmmmmm?? These are just questions I have and leaving it up for discussion. Again, I'm not trying to be disrepectful or put anyone down. I'm trying to gain a bit of knowledge and understanding. Thank You.



kgboot
aka "Mr. Bootie"


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[P. B. Walker]

Oh this should be interesting... lol... where's my 10-foot pole?

PBW

 

[lark sparrow]

I posted this question on the general board, but I thought I might place it here as well.


What is the appeal for women to use a strap on?? What is this all about?? I mean no disrepect to the women that use them but why?? I am trying to understand this. I am not trying to criticize or put down, I'm only trying to understand this.


I've been told that "lesbians" are not trying to be men, so I'm wondering. If that is the case why use a strap on?? If women want t a cock. Why not get one that is already attached to a male. I'm just trying to figure out why the strap on. It appears to me that the women that are "taking" the strap on have nothing against a cock. But isn't the real thing better than fake??


Women using a strap on can "simulate" fucking, but is it really the same as a man?? Hmmmmm?? These are just questions I have and leaving it up for discussion. Again, I'm not trying to be disrepectful or put anyone down. I'm trying to gain a bit of knowledge and understanding. Thank You.



kgboot
aka "Mr. Bootie"


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I may be able to shed some light, kgboot, as I am a lesbian and have used strap-ons.

Dildos are created to approximate the shape of a woman's vagina - that shape generally stimulates a vagina and is safe to use - the depth and roundness ensure a safe and effective fit. Dildos are strapped on in the approximate place a man would have a penis because this stimulates the woman's clit who is wearing it and gives her sexual pleasure while allowing her to use her whole body and hips to stroke and poke... leaving her hands free for other things.

Strap-ons also are always hard and ready, create no impregnating sperm or disease... and yes, are not attached to a man. I can not tell you how very appealing it is to be penetrated by a strap on that can be taken off after vaginal or anal sex, and then having the delicious treat of a woman's pussy. There's really no substitute.

There is also a bit of gender play/mind f*ck/taboo possible if the two lesbians are interested in exploring it.

 

[WriterDom]

Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

Dildos are created to approximate the shape of a woman's vagina -

Damn, and all this time I thought they were created to approximate the shape of a penis. Who says this forum isn't educational.

 

[P. B. Walker]

Re: Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

Damn, and all this time I thought they were created to approximate the shape of a penis. Who says this forum isn't educational.

Well, I think both statements are true because in actuality, the penis is one of the best shapes for giving the vagina pleasure. Evolution is funny like that .

PBW

 

[WriterDom]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

Well, I think both statements are true because in actuality, the penis is one of the best shapes for giving the vagina pleasure. Evolution is funny like that .

PBW

Very PC. Like they took a mold of a vagina for the first dildo. Nope, didn't happen.

 

[lark sparrow]

Re: Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

Damn, and all this time I thought they were created to approximate the shape of a penis. Who says this forum isn't educational.

It's all in perspective. If I had a penis I would wonder how anyone could ignore it too.

 

[lark sparrow]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

Well, I think both statements are true because in actuality, the penis is one of the best shapes for giving the vagina pleasure. Evolution is funny like that .

PBW

Evolution involves homosexuality as well as heterosexuality. It's found in animals across the board, human or otherwise.

Some of it genetic orientation, and some of it is simple opportunity - look at prison sexual behavior.

 

[lark sparrow]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

Very PC. Like they took a mold of a vagina for the first dildo. Nope, didn't happen.

I am no way trying to threaten the status quo.

Lesbians don't think like you or a woman who wants cock do. The penis is not king and is frankly unnecessary. I like men, but I would take a dildo over a penis every single time. Hence, lesbian.

It's a valid point of view.

 

[RisiaSkye]

Re: Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

lark--*very* nice explanation. Better than any of the others I've read in the dozen or so previous times we've had this conversation in the forum.

Hehe. I do so love to see the Big Tough Boys puff up their chests when lesbians, strap-ons, queer men, or anal penetration comes into the convo. It's cute.

Strap-ons are also fun for that reason. Hetero males of a particular stripe (say the ones who think that sub males are *all* latent homosexuals) take such umbrage at it. Personally, I enjoy tweaking them, because it's just *so* easy.

 

[Goddess Helena]

Because I need a strap-on to fuck My boy.


Helena

 

[mistresssilkeng]

I posted this question on the general board, but I thought I might place it here as well.


What is the appeal for women to use a strap on?? What is this all about?? I mean no disrepect to the women that use them but why?? I am trying to understand this. I am not trying to criticize or put down, I'm only trying to understand this.


I've been told that "lesbians" are not trying to be men, so I'm wondering. If that is the case why use a strap on?? If women want t a cock. Why not get one that is already attached to a male. I'm just trying to figure out why the strap on. It appears to me that the women that are "taking" the strap on have nothing against a cock. But isn't the real thing better than fake??


Women using a strap on can "simulate" fucking, but is it really the same as a man?? Hmmmmm?? These are just questions I have and leaving it up for discussion. Again, I'm not trying to be disrepectful or put anyone down. I'm trying to gain a bit of knowledge and understanding. Thank You.



kgboot
aka "Mr. Bootie"


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I may not say it as well as My girl, but to Me a strap on is just another toy that can be used to stimulate during sex. There are many ways that lesbians can enjoy intercourse with or without the strap on, but having the hands free is My favorite part about using the strap on

Silken

 

[WriterDom]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

lark--*very* nice explanation. Better than any of the others I've read in the dozen or so previous times we've had this conversation in the forum.

Hehe. I do so love to see the Big Tough Boys puff up their chests when lesbians, strap-ons, queer men, or anal penetration comes into the convo. It's cute.

Yeah, it's a coincidence that a dildo looks like a penis. It could have just as easily been a 8 point moose rack.

 

[lark sparrow]

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Yeah, it's a coincidence that a dildo looks like a penis. It could have just as easily been a 8 point moose rack.

Which came first - the chicken or the egg? Is a dildo in the shape of a penis or a vagina?

Since a dildo is going into a woman's vagina in this case, it is utterly reasonable to say a dildo is created to fit a woman's vagina. There is no penis in lesbian relationships.

Cock is king - or is it? Depends on who you ask.

If you ask a lesbian, and he was asking about lesbians... you'll find that penis isn't the beginning, middle or end. Sorry, although I have no problem with it being essential in your life, it's inconsequential in mine or my vagina-shaped dildos.

 

[KingII]

women and strap ons.....

Now this is interesting I must say ......

From my point of veiw the ole strap on most assuradly came from days of old when harems were the in thing.

So many women and only one penis for the bunch ........ whew

Or maybe just some ole southern boy, thinkin of how he was gonna please all those southern bells once when he got to town .....smile

Some good hard oak and whitlin knife would sure com in handy...
of course he probably kep it on the small side so they would always want the real thing...... and it wasn't till them Yankees got invlolved an started maken'm in all differant sizes that really messed things up................!

I was always one to enjoy watchen'em please one another till I was all rested up agin .... Hey ..... and whats to say a sweet lil lesbian ain't somthin nice to have around to warm'em up or maybe help finish'em off......

and if she can bait a hook and row a boat ...... hell ...... I'm game

Well anyway ......... I am not complain'n , since I got this new lathe ........ I can stiiiill compete

smilin

L

 

[KingII]

those strap on things .........

I know what I said in that last post was alot for a ....virgin.

But when I get to be ..... ho.........

Just let me know

L

still ..... smilin

 

[lark sparrow]

There is no competition. Geez you guys. Can I say again how glad I am I don't have a penis.

kgboot asked a reasonable question out of curiousity as respectfully as he could. It really shouldn't be so threatening to you and your penis... and the notion that all sex revolves around penis.

Women who like cock are always going to love the "real thing" best. Lesbians may find your obsession with your penis humorous, annoying and ultimately your own trip. It's really not as important as you think it is once you step foot into lesbianism.

Get a grip it's still there - as long as you and your woman like it, everything is ok.

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I will amend this as it was meant light-hearted for the most part. I am not saying that all men feel this way - I would venture to guess many don't. If it is offensive I will remove it.

This was a discussion about strap-ons with a focus on lesbians and as there is such a stong correlation in many people's minds between dildos and cocks it was bound to come up.

 

[SierraMoon]

As i am a bi female, i have used strap-ons with males, and the female i was with. i seem to have a case of penis envy, and i guess i just got excited from having a "cock".

In my 6 year relationship with my ex gf, it was a way of having intercourse with her, and just wearing it while having sex with her could get me off.. i needed no additional stimulation.

With the males, it was a sense of "taboo", of giving back to them the sensations that they gave me.

Either way... i have always found strap-ons to be exciting, and pleasurable.

i do still love the real thing tho...

just my 2 cents...

 

[P. B. Walker]

Why do so many women think that a man's life revolves around his dick? I find that notion really silly. I certainly do not think my dick is the end all, be all. It is a part of my reproductive organs. Period. My biggest and most important sexual organ is my mind. Our brains are no more ruled by our dicks than your brains are ruled by your ovaries. I find some of the views I just read kinda distasteful, almost discriminating. But whatever I guess. We all live in our own worlds.

oh yeah...

Evolution involves homosexuality as well as heterosexuality. It's found in animals across the board, human or otherwise.

Some of it genetic orientation, and some of it is simple opportunity - look at prison sexual behavior.

I wasn't making a statement about heterosexuality or homosexuality. My meaning was simply this: the dick and the vagina are matched together very well due to evolution. Do you think our species would have survived if they didn't match up well? I don't think it really matters if you say the dildo is vagina shaped or dick shaped... cus they are pretty much the same shape. True, there are variations in size and whatnot, but the general shape is the same. I really think this is a stupid point to argue. It's like saying "A wheel is round.", "NO! It's circular!", "NO, it's round!" DUhhh... who cares?

I knew this thread would get all touchy. I guess I should have found my 10-foot pole.

PBW "Enough puffing of my chest"

 

[apple3141]

Strap ons

First: The Penis and the Vagina are designed by Nature for making babies. It is an excellent arrangement for depositing semen in a place where there is an excellent chance of fertilising an ovum. The pleasures of sex are a reward nature provides for making babies. Nature LOVES babies.

Of course the penis is Vagina shaped, as the vagina also is penis shaped. The penis is not rectum-shaped, neither is it mouth-and-throat shaped.

In being vagina-shaped, the dildo is automatically penis shaped.

As best I know, there are strap ons shaped so as to give clittoral stimulation to the fucker, as well as vaginal stimulation to the fuckee. This sounds like a good deal, especially for women who dislike men sufficiently to avoid sexual contact with them.

When fucking has to do ONLY with sex (as in all MM FF) then it is down to whatever turns you on. MM will claim that buggery is even more pleasurable than ordinary fucking, and they claim that they don't have to deal with the female's hysterical behaviour - though knowing some of the effeminate boys and their antics, they are worse than most women in this respect.

For men, even he-men, the vagina is not a necessity, more of a convenience; a mouth or an arsehole will serve as well. As a matter of fact, a large grapefruit, cunningly holed, and judiciously warmed in a microwave is an excellent substitute.

As for homosexuality in animals, check it out: it is usually to be found in those species where the social organisation is based either on an alpha male with a harem, so there are many males without a female, alternatively in those where there is an alfa bitch (e.g. wild dog packs) who prevents many of the females from breeding.

I believe that considering humans as mammals, their underlying social organisation is as Gorillas: Alfa male and harem. Maybe we are evolving to be like swans? One cob one hen, for life? NOT.

Personally, Do I want a Harem? Oh, how I do not!

 

[P. B. Walker]

Well put apple3141, especially the parts about the penis and vagina.

PBW

 

[lark sparrow]

Well put apple3141, especially the parts about the penis and vagina.

PBW

Points taken, PB and Apple, and I don't disagree with either you - my only point was it is opinion/point of view in regards to which it is - not in fact always penis shaped in all cases to everyone who knew the truth.

I enjoyed Sierra's post as well. There is the whole gender/taboo thing to play with if desired.

I'd love to hear from those who actually use strap-ons, and how they view them. Female or male.

 

[P. B. Walker]

Points taken, PB and Apple, and I don't disagree with either you - my only point was it is opinion/point of view in regards to which it is - not in fact always penis shaped in all cases to everyone who knew the truth.

I enjoyed Sierra's post as well. There is the whole gender/taboo thing to play with if desired.

I'd love to hear from those who actually use strap-ons, and how they view them. Female or male.

No problem lark. I just had to comment. To me it was like saying 6 or half a dozen. Not worth an argument over to me. To me a dildo is a dildo.

I guess I'll never get the whole gender/taboo thing. I mean, yes I understand it. And if the guy is into it, then yeah, to each their own. If they are both getting pleasure and they want to do it, more power to ya. But the whole "breaking him down" kinda attitude just seems kinda cruel to me. It's like girls getting off on it when a guy cries. LOL. And it seems the more "manly" the guy is, the more of a turn on it is.

Anyhoo.. I don't know. I guess it just feels like taking a vase and hitting it with a hammer just to see if you can break it. This probably doesn't make much sense...

PBW "I guess the dom in me will only let things go so far... LOL"

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

I posted this question on the general board, but I thought I might place it here as well.


What is the appeal for women to use a strap on?? What is this all about?? I mean no disrepect to the women that use them but why?? I am trying to understand this. I am not trying to criticize or put down, I'm only trying to understand this.


I've been told that "lesbians" are not trying to be men, so I'm wondering. If that is the case why use a strap on?? If women want t a cock. Why not get one that is already attached to a male. I'm just trying to figure out why the strap on. It appears to me that the women that are "taking" the strap on have nothing against a cock. But isn't the real thing better than fake??


Women using a strap on can "simulate" fucking, but is it really the same as a man?? Hmmmmm?? These are just questions I have and leaving it up for discussion. Again, I'm not trying to be disrepectful or put anyone down. I'm trying to gain a bit of knowledge and understanding. Thank You.



kgboot
aka "Mr. Bootie"


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A strap-on is merely a tool. It's no different than fingers, tongues, ben wa balls, venus butterfly clit vibrators or any other appendage or object inserted into (or rubbed on) a vagina that isn't reproductively necessary. It's only purpose is to give pleasure. It has nothing to do with a dick, which is inevitably attached to a man. Also, most dildos and strap-ons that I've seen that were specifically marketed to lesbians were designed to bear little resemblance to a penis. They tend to come in odd colors and shapes (like dolphins and such.) Many lesbians seem not to want the more penis-like toys.

I don't really follow the logic that since some lesbians like to use strap-ons that they must really want to be with a man. There is a lot more to a man than his dick. A woman with a strap-on is just that. She doesn't look like a man. She doesn't smell like a man. She doesn't have a man's sensibilities. Again, I'd imagine that she's not going to quickly orgasm and then fall into a deep coma-like sleep.

It seems to me that the notion that a woman who enjoys being with another woman with a strap-on must want a man, is predicated on a kind of phallus worship. It almost seems to be casting lesbians as abominations for appropriating our, exclusively male, totem ... and thus availing themselves of it's semi-divine power. I'm sure there is some really good Freudian explanation for this ... and it probably involves fear of castration.

 

[WriterDom]

Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

I don't really follow the logic that since some lesbians like to use strap-ons that they must really want to be with a man. There is a lot more to a man than his dick. A woman with a strap-on is just that. She doesn't look like a man. She doesn't smell like a man. She doesn't have a man's sensibilities. Again, I'd imagine that she's not going to quickly orgasm and then fall into a deep coma-like sleep.

But wouldn't a male sub who wanted a real dick have 100 resumes in his mailbox overnight? Or does that only apply to females?