Wit's End- any suggestions?

Technodivinitas

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(I also posted this on the BDSM Backroom forums, under "Servitude in the long, LONG run"...)

I'm a 36 y/o submissive female, in a long term (10 years) 24/7 relationship with a strong & loving Master to whom I am deeply devoted. During the course of our relationship, he met a non-submissive woman, courted, & eventually married her, without ending the relationship that he & I share. (I actually served as his Best "man", and later, when the paperwork got botched, as their Minister.)

during his courtship of his current wife, he lived with her, and had very little time to spare for me, although I accepted that, and now the three of us are co-habiting, and with his work schedule, he has very litle time for either of us. (None of us is thrilled with that, but the reality of supporting a slave & a wife & a household requires it.)

I have undertaken the general household duties, since they both work, and essentially serve as live-in maid/housekeeper. I know that for many subs, this would seem an ideal arrangement, seemingly right out of a D/s fantasy novel, but there are problems.

My Master's marriage is troubled, and she is vanilla in all but that she accepts that he's got me, (and recently, another slave who's joined our odd little family,) and I am in no position to councel or assist them in their troubles, since the relationships are (by both my choice and hers,) kept fairly separate.

In addition, he is recently struggling with depression issues, and I suspect, with fears of inability to uphold and support our household.

All of this, plus my sometimes failing health, have contributed to a growing sense of ennui, or indifference concerning my training and maintenance. As I mentioned above, he's recently collared a new girl, (whom I absolutely adore,) and although I would consider that to be a bad idea given all the other difficulties we've been having, I also understand that sometimes when someone fits perfectly into a family like ours, you can't turn them away because "it's not the right time for it". (Kinda like having a child, in that respect, I suppose.) The new girl needs us, and I feel that her presence will spark new interests and bring a fresh liveliness to the household.

Still, I'm troubled by my own situation. I've always been high maintenance, since I am the now-adult child of a neglectful home, and have never had much grasp on the concepts of self-discipline. (Possibly one of the things which led me into the D/s lifestyle to begin with…) I have, somewhat against my will, been forced to sieze my own reins, and have constructed for myself schedules and discipline structures, which I offered to my Master to apply to me, and which he seemed eager to adopt, but now that they've been implemented, I feel as if I'm all alone in maintaining them. I've learned that if I offer him the slightest excuse, he accepts it without question, which leads me to laziness, inattentiveness, and even some indifference of my own. In short, I feel like an untended garden, choking in weeds.

I recognize that if I heard someone else lamenting these things, I'd surely tell them to mourn the loss and move on, but I'm still not ready to give up. The love and the rareness of such a full-time lifestyle are just too precious to me to not try everything I possibly can to repair before I walk away.

I have discussed this with my Master, and he insists that none of it is my fault, that he loves me as he always has, and that I am still every bit as important to him, but what he hasn't offered me is any way to better please or interest him.

Has anyone any advice to offer, other than to cut my losses? I'm not above dirty tricks at this point- I'm in the last ditch effort stage I think, and any suggestions, from either Dom or sub point of view, would be welcome. (Unless you just want to tell me I'm nuts… That much I already know. *S*)

Please get in touch- I am seriously in need of feedback.
 
Here's what I think you should do:

1. Stay there for now and keep a detailed journal if you don't already;

2. Look up web sites that teach you how to write a film treatment in proper form;

3. Write the film treatment;

4. Mail it to yourself registered mail to prove Copyright (keep the signed receipt and treatment , sealed, in a safety deposit box as insurance in case you get ripped off);

5. Go to LA;

6. Dress in your best slave outfit and start visting agents until you get one to pitch it;

7. Open Swiss bank account;

8. Deposit the fat cheque you'll get for this one...it's a doozy.

9. Live well.

10. Invite me to escort you to the Oscars.
 
Good advice apart from one small error

Lancecastor said:
Here's what I think you should do:

1. Stay there for now and keep a detailed journal if you don't already;

2. Look up web sites that teach you how to write a film treatment in proper form;

3. Write the film treatment;

4. Mail it to yourself registered mail to prove Copyright (keep the signed receipt and treatment , sealed, in a safety deposit box as insurance in case you get ripped off);

5. Go to LA;

6. Dress in your best slave outfit and start visting agents until you get one to pitch it;

7. Open Swiss bank account;

8. Deposit the fat cheque you'll get for this one...it's a doozy.

9. Live well.

10. Invite me to escort you to the Oscars.

This is good advice, apart from item 10. It should read invite shy slave to the Oscars, I can dress the part.... Lance can't.

Sorry I don't know any dirty tricks, but I am glad I am not Master. Two slaves and a wife must be hard work to keep fed never mind happy.

I have said before:Being a Dom is hard work.

Hope others can help.
 
That's actually the first time I've seen Lance give stellar advice. LOL.

It also sounds like your D has a bit of a "collecting" problem where women are concerned. And before you flame me, we're poly. I just don't see adding to the house let alone twice on my horizon.
 
Netzach said:
That's actually the first time I've seen Lance give stellar advice.

I always give stellar advice; there may be hope for you yet, grasshopper.
 
Hmmm.

Okay, I'll take these responses with a chuckle, and assume you meant them in the best humor.

Assuming that Lance, I must also assume also that you either:

A. believe that I'm spinning fiction,
or
B. that my situation is entirely too complicated for a real life to be, and that I should therefore go out and track down something resembling a more mainstream life.

Let me first assure you that I've not only not exaggerated my situation, I've simplified it a bit, to keep the whole mess from being novel-length. Since apparently you took the time to read it, I must have succeeded, at least relatively.

Naztech, You might be correct, but I honestly can't fault him for that aspect- He made his intention to own more than one slave clear back in the early days of our relationship, and he's been searching for the right girl ever since. The wife thing... well, I can't really explain that, as on that score I think he's completely off his nut. Still, we don't bring people into our household/family unless we believe that they have at least the potential to become a part thereof. Our attitude in general is, if they don't stand up to our standards to adopt as family, the none of us should be sleeping with them.

I should also clarify- the new girl is not 24/7, nor living with us. He's training her, she's new to D/s, and I am helping her to cope with her feelings and experiences, as well as easing her transition into the submissive lifestyle.

shy slave- You're right. Being a Master's GOT to be a lot of work. That's probably the biggest barrier to my becoming a switch!
 
how about all 4 of you talking together and trying to make things work? if the communication is not there, its just gonna break down piece by piece and its looking like you are the first piece.
 
One of the reasons I don't think I could manage more than a long-term threesome is that the communication lines just get too tangled! And it's communication that allows a good relationship to exist.

I'd say the fact that you've got one person in the relationship who isn't keen on it... spells the death knell for the relationship. It's just a matter of time. And your Master's depression may be him recognising that, even if only subconciously.

Firstly, depression doesn't just go away. He needs to deal with that. You can be supportive and help out, but he DOES need to deal with it. Otherwise things will continue to spiral out of control.

Secondly, you need to think about what you want to do with yourself if it DOES fall apart (because my own feeling is that it won't last in the current arrangement.)

Other than that, I'm with Lance. (Now there's a scary thought!)
 
Welcome to the board.

Based solely on the information you provided, i have to agree with Netz. While one may want to have more than one slave, that "want" does not automatically ensure that the Dominant can handle having more than one slave. It's possible, but would require an effort that would leave little time for real life.

Bottom line, he does not appear to have the luxury of time to balance a vanilla wife, a slave and train a new slave in addition to working, sleeping, eating, sceneing, bill paying, etc. To me, he has over extended himself and as a consequence, cannot provide the presence required to maintain and keep a slave, a trainee slave and a wife. Well intentioned or not, it does seem he is not able to manage the situation.

As for what you should do, i cannot tell you. You've already assessed your situation clearly -- you appear to be neglected and lost in your position as slave in a house that is a bit overrun with other women vying for the attention of one man. Your choices are rather simple. Stay and ask for some time to address your concerns with your Master. Lay out the difficulties you are having and ask him whether he can provide you with the maintenance required for your submissive self. While you know he cares about you and thinks of you as important to him, his actions or inactions are indicative of someone who is having a tough time making all the pieces fit. If you require more from your position as slave, you need to make that clear. Otherwise, you could remain where you are and serve as expected of you.

Bottom line, a slave's feelings may not be uppermost in a Dominant's mind and although no one likes to feel neglected, you gave up the right to demand anything of him once you agreed to become his slave. While i am not privvy to the all the particulars surrounding your relationship with him (i.e., are you a slave in the sense that you entered a contract with this man to give up all rights in favor of his control?), on face value it appears to be a "bear the brunt" or "break contract" situation. Either he chooses to change the situation or not. Either way, if the arrangement changes at all, it will be his decision. He may not want to "fix" the problems and you need to be prepared for that outcome.

lara
 
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

is this thread for real.....

how about leave the asshole, get some professional help and live a life that allows you to be free and dictate your own choices...

good gravy....
 
bytor2112 said:
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

is this thread for real.....

how about leave the asshole, get some professional help and live a life that allows you to be free and dictate your own choices...

good gravy....
WHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

You still here bytor?????

How about YOU leave the boards, get yourself some professional help that allows you to explore why you have this burning need to tell us we what we want.

Techno IS FREE you idiot.

All subs/slaves choose to live like this. Has your revelational light bulb clicked to the 'on' position yet?

My mum always said if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.

Most of my life I have observed these words of wisdom, but not always. This post is one of those few times.

Its good advice bytor, you can learn alot from the mums of this world.

So to reiterate ~ say something nice or bugger off and leave us to live in our lives the way we have CHOSEN.
(Damn I hate swearing on-line) :(
 
shy slave said:
WHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

You still here bytor?????

How about YOU leave the boards, get yourself some professional help that allows you to explore why you have this burning need to tell us we what we want.

Techno IS FREE you idiot.

All subs/slaves choose to live like this. Has your revelational light bulb clicked to the 'on' position yet?

My mum always said if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.

Most of my life I have observed these words of wisdom, but not always. This post is one of those few times.

Its good advice bytor, you can learn alot from the mums of this world.

So to reiterate ~ say something nice or bugger off and leave us to live in our lives the way we have CHOSEN.
(Damn I hate swearing on-line) :(

i am going...give me time though..

she IS NOT FREE!!! you are just too fucking stupid to know any better..

damn i love swearing online!!
 
bytor2112 said:
i am going...give me time though..

she IS NOT FREE!!! you are just too fucking stupid to know any better..

damn i love swearing online!!

damn I love fucking stupid, especially when its me being fucked :D

Ps~ bytor have sent out 'sos' to the GB board asking them to come and take you back, funny but they say you don't belong there either???
 
bytor2112 said:
i am going...give me time though..

she IS NOT FREE!!! you are just too fucking stupid to know any better..

damn i love swearing online!!
Damn double posts.
 
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Communication.. I've never seen a relationship.. no matter what flavor do bad by useing communication.. or communicateing with others... however you see the situation being less stressed by communicating.. it's hard to say how to go about things when your not in the situation.. Thus it's a judgement call.
 
Lancecastor said:
Here's what I think you should do:

4. Mail it to yourself registered mail to prove Copyright (keep the signed receipt and treatment , sealed, in a safety deposit box as insurance in case you get ripped off);


Sorry, Lancecastor ... but this myth needs to be more widely debunked.

From the Screenwriter's Guild of America: "Do not mail your script to yourself (the poor man's copyright) and expect to be protected. This is extremely foolish and offers very little, if any, protection in a court of law. Register your script with the U.S. Copyright Office of the Library of Congress and/or the Writers Guild of America. Fees for either service are only twenty dollars."

http://screenwritersguild.org/copyright.asp
 
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