Winter Holiday Support Thread

[Guest]

I could be wrong, but with the higher quality works (like yours) the 'rating' I suspect would be about the same. The major differeces in contests are the number of 'reads' drawn and the number of 'votes'. There might be slight variation, but I believe most would balance in the end result.
The nice thing about a contest is it will get you a higher readership, most especaily if you are not a long-term, well known author. The exposure is much higher than a general posting for a relatively new and/or lesser known author.
for what it's worth IMHO

First of all..thank you. And it's true, it has upped my numbers. So maybe it's all good, but I'm spoiled and used to having higher ratings..lol.

 

[hugo_sam]

First of all..thank you. And it's true, it has upped my numbers. So maybe it's all good, but I'm spoiled and used to having higher ratings..lol.

That's what I am saying. I don't believe that the ratings are that boosted by the contest. Even in my ramblings, my contest stuff is right about in the middle, maybe slightly higher than middle, of the ratings of the regular stuff. Readership is generally much higher, but the 'ratings' are on the high side of middle ground of what the 'regular' stuff is.

 

[Guest]

That's what I am saying. I don't believe that the ratings are that boosted by the contest. Even in my ramblings, my contest stuff is right about in the middle, maybe slightly higher than middle, of the ratings of the regular stuff. Readership is generally much higher, but the 'ratings' are on the high side of middle ground of what the 'regular' stuff is.

Totally off subject, but isn't your bear missing something?

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

Hugo,

I think the "more reads" contention is valid, most of the time. But I'm beginning to sense some exceptions to that rule. My third contest entry "Exchanging Presents" is a one-page Romance. It was posted with the last batch of entrants, 12/08. Since then it's accumulated 5108 views, 48 votes (a high vote-to-view ration), and 8 PC's. The score has been stuck on 4.25 for days.

I'm wondering if not having an H has cut down on the views and votes. It might just be contest burn-out. The Halloween contest in October and this one in December had over 300 entries between them. That calls for a lot of RCV's.

As for that score with a short Romance, I have no idea. But it happened once before. I posted another one-page romance, The Touch of Her Thigh, for the Nude Day contest. It ended up with over 20K reads, 81 votes, but a score of 4.26.

I wonder, and this is pure speculation, if readers looking for stroke, get irritated when the story turns out to have little or none. If it's a one-pager, they can scroll down and quickly vent their frustrations. I'll leave issues of the quality of the writing to others.

Rumple Foreskin

 

[hugo_sam]

Hugo,

I think the "more reads" contention is valid, most of the time. But I'm beginning to sense some exceptions to that rule. My third contest entry "Exchanging Presents" is a one-page Romance. It was posted with the last batch of entrants, 12/08. Since then it's accumulated 5108 views, 48 votes (a high vote-to-view ration), and 8 PC's. The score has been stuck on 4.25 for days.

I'm wondering if not having an H has cut down on the views and votes. It might just be contest burn-out. The Halloween contest in October and this one in December had over 300 entries between them. That calls for a lot of RCV's.

As for that score with a short Romance, I have no idea. But it happened once before. I posted another one-page romance for the nude day contest. It ended up with over 20K reads, 81 votes, but a score of 4.26.

I wonder, and this is pure speculation, if readers looking for stroke, get irritated when the story turns out to be a romance. If it's a one-pager, they can scoll down and quickly vent their frustrations.

Rumple Foreskin

I suppose many variations are possible. The differences in cat can make a difference. So it can almost be like comparing apples and oranges a bit. Number wise, what I told DK is true, but I guess i should have added the creveat that my contest entries have been 2 incest/taboo and 1 non-erotic. My 'regular' stuff is Novels and Novellas.
I don't even understand all of it. My second chapter is what I would call my best of my regular stuff, but has consistantly maintained the lowest ranking of all the others. So I clearly do not kinow. I would always bow to your superior knowledge and experiece Rev.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

I suppose many variations are possible. The differences in cat can make a difference. So it can almost be like comparing apples and oranges a bit. Number wise, what I told DK is true, but I guess i should have added the creveat that my contest entries have been 2 incest/taboo and 1 non-erotic. My 'regular' stuff is Novels and Novellas.
I don't even understand all of it. My second chapter is what I would call my best of my regular stuff, but has consistantly maintained the lowest ranking of all the others. So I clearly do not kinow. I would always bow to your superior knowledge and experiece Rev.

Remind me and I'll take a look at it, Hugo. Of course, I can't figure out why those two stories of mine, one of which has been published in a literary e-zine, would have such low scores. So I wouldn't bet the farm on my coming up with any profound insights.

Later.

Rumple Foreskin

 

[hugo_sam]

Totally off subject, but isn't your bear missing something?

Not really Dk. This is the 'regular' bear. Dg did make a special 'holiday' bear for me but it is a little ostentatious for me. I have run it a couple of times for very short times, but not consistantly.

 

[Aurora Black]

Thanks for the advice, Aurora.

I answered you, Danielle. *points up*

 

[Aurora Black]

Actually, that was a reference to how Japanese are said to find the back of a woman's neck to be a major erogenous area. I don't know if that's true or not, but it looks good to me.

Yes, it's true. The Geisha women used to (and still do) strategically apply their white makeup to cover all exposed skin (face & hands) except for the nape of the neck, to invite desire and a stolen kiss.

Hey, is anyone planning to check out "Memoirs of a Geisha" when it comes out? I remember reading the book and finding it interesting, but I'm not sure about the movie. It struck me as wrong for the director to cast only Chinese actors for what is definitely a Japanese story (written by a "gaijin," strange). It seems unfair and just a tiny bit racist, like the age-old "they all look alike" theory.

 

[Guest]

I answered you, Danielle. *points up*

I did see that Aurora, thank you.

 

[scouries]

Literotica Annouces New Contest Rules

…..Or did they?

LITEROTICA ANNOUNCES NEW CONTEST RULES​

Dec 13, 2005 – The management of Literotica announced today that all future contests will be held under a new set of regulations, replacing rules that had increasingly come under attack in recent years. “These sweeping changes were long overdue,” Miss Laurelotica, President and CEO of Literotica Intl. Ltee., announced at a press conference held in the company’s head office located in Bentonville, Arkansas.

“Both my brother Manuelerotica and I know that ownership and management must shoulder much of the blame for the sorry state of Lit’s contest world,” she admitted, “and we hope that the new system will answer the grievances of a growing number in our community.”

“The final straw came just weeks ago,” the President added, “when one of our best authors, a certain Rumplestiltskin, was eaten by a group of trolls while wandering aimlessly near her home in rural Georgia. This tragedy has galvanized the whole Lit community who have come together to work out a better way to award our authors.”

“As of January 1st 2005, the following rules will apply:

Each contest in future will have 4 winners; winners selected as follows.

1 – A Green W will go to the story that has the highest scoring average and reaches the designated minimum number of votes. (This is exactly like our old system)

2 – A Silver W will go to the story that receives the highest number of votes in the contest, irregardless of the breakdown of said votes.

3 – A Gold W will go to the story that receives the most views during the contest.

All votes cast in the contest will be counted!! No longer will votes be selectively thrown out by management, a practice we’ve used far too often in the past. Stories that our vast audience is actually reading in great numbers will now start winning some awards.

An author can only win one W in any contest.

No author who has published a story on Lit in the preceeding 6 months will be eligible to vote in any of the above three sections of the contest.

4 – A Purple A will go to the story that receives the most votes from eligible authors. Eligible authors are those writers who’ve submitted a story to Literotica within the last 6 months. Each author will be eligible to vote only once, and not for their own story. The story which receives the most votes from his or her fellow authors will be awarded the Purple A. This Purple A, this award from ones peers, will likely become our most cherished prize.

Warning - All authors must advise Headquarters if they are submitting stories under more than one name, if so, they are still only allowed to vote once. Any attempt to circumvent this rule (or any other rule) will lead to a giant Orange C being placed next to the author’s name, signifying their infamy and the fact that they’ve cheated. Literotica will then sell these offenders to Chinese restaurants, their various body parts hopefully bringing in enough money to increase our cash prizes substantially.

Literotica announces a total amnesty for those many authors who’ve cheated in the past – everyone will start with a clean slate.

The advantages of these new rules are obvious:

- Members biography pages will be much more colorful. Gold and silver and purple and orange will immeasurably brighten our world.

- Counting every vote instead of just those we like will finally bring democracy to our small world, liberating our people just as people are being liberated around the world, freed at last from tyranny and dictatorship.

- Trolls and other ugly creatures will disappear from our pages, only having arrived here on the backs of all our enemies; jealousy, greed and envy.

- It will be extremely exciting for our older writers, writers who have become jaded, writers who now spend more time trying to beat the system than they do writing their stories. These Gold and Silver W’s will prove irresistible to these old warhorses and they’ll stampede to their typewriters and laptops, eager to finally be able to write stories that Literotica’s vast audience actually want to read.

- New authors will flower in this new Literotica, a world where friendship and hope will reign.

- No longer will the writers of Erotic Couplings, Loving Wives, Incest, and Non-Consent be looked down upon by their peers; in fact their advice will be sought out by Romance, Non-Erotic and Essay writers, all now eager to capture one of these new W’s. And even an Incest writer might now tentatively write a Romance story, knowing that fairness and goodwill reign throughout the Kingdom.

Just imagine – A system where a winning story has over 100,000 views; or has 1000 votes; or has a rating of only 4.27, those artificially high ratings of 4.95-4.98 a thing of the past in a world where a score of 4 out of 5 will be considered excellent.

Good luck to everyone!

 

[cloudy]

So sorry, scouries....the site belongs to Laurel and Manu, and not to you.

You don't like the rules? That's cool...you have that right. Go open your own site, and that way, you can make your own rules there.

I still think you have a horrible case of sour grapes, that's all.

 

[sophia jane]

I still think you have a horrible case of sour grapes, that's all.

And waaay too much time.

 

[cloudy]

And waaay too much time.

ya think?

 

[Belegon]

- Counting every vote instead of just those we like will finally bring democracy to our small world, liberating our people just as people are being liberated around the world, freed at last from tyranny and dictatorship.

George? Is that you?

When did the internet move to Florida?

 

[English Lady]

Scouries, send your suggestion to Laurel and Manu, love, they are the only people who can change the rules as cloudy just said


I know we have some kind of argy bargy over the rules on every one of these comp support threads but at the end of the day what it comes down to is these are Laurel and Manu's rules you can either like it or lump it.


As Rumply said ages back it's a free comp, and as many people say alot the real prize is getting the wider readership and more feedback. Join in for those reasons or I suggest not joining in at all because if you're in for just the money then you're going to be sorely disappointed, as there ain't alot of that in it really *L*

Now then, who wants a fresh baked EL Mince pie? Oooh they smell yummy!

 

[scouries]

xxx

xxxxx

 

[Belegon]

Dude, you didn't piss anybody off by wanting to change a system that has pissed us all off on occassion...

you pissed us off when you called people in the AH cheaters. period.

 

[sophia jane]

If you'd read through this read, scouries, you'd see we had already discussed the story placements on the list. Speculation is that those with the highest number of votes are at the bottom of the list. My story has stayed in the same place, and so have others.

I also want to say that while your intentions are good in contacting L&M, you're forgetting one significant thing. They don't owe you or anyone else any accounting for votes or rules or reasons. They own this site, and as it's not a public company, they don't need our opinions on how to run it.

Oh, and we often share our scores with each other after the fact.

 

[cloudy]

My final request is this – I wonder whether after the contest is over you could provide a list of the rating, the number of views and the number of votes each story received. I believe all authors would be interested in these figures and would provide a new transparency to the contest system.

As they say in Dixie: "None-ya"

Translation: this is absolutely none of your business. Keep your inquiring mind on your OWN stories, and your nose out of mine, mmkay? Thanks.

 

[Guest]

And the chit continues to fly. How about a peace on Earth good will towards men, Merry Christmas Y'all.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by scouries
My final request is this – I wonder whether after the contest is over you could provide a list of the rating, the number of views and the number of votes each story received. I believe all authors would be interested in these figures and would provide a new transparency to the contest system.

As they say in Dixie: "None-ya"

Translation: this is absolutely none of your business. Keep your inquiring mind on your OWN stories, and your nose out of mine, mmkay? Thanks.

To some degree, this information is public knowledge. You can go to the top lists in the index and check out the top ranked stories in different categories. You woulf not be able to make a comprehensive list because some of the entries would not apear. My story, for instance has a ranking of 4.35 the last I knew. This would not be high enough to be in the top list but stories that are contenders would be there. Personally, I am not interested enough to look.

 

[sophia jane]

To some degree, this information is public knowledge. You can go to the top lists in the index and check out the top ranked stories in different categories. You woulf not be able to make a comprehensive list because some of the entries would not apear. My story, for instance has a ranking of 4.35 the last I knew. This would not be high enough to be in the top list but stories that are contenders would be there. Personally, I am not interested enough to look.

An even more time consuming way to find out is to look up each story in its category. Personally, I don't care that much.

 

[English Lady]

And the chit continues to fly. How about a peace on Earth good will towards men, Merry Christmas Y'all.

Eggsakerly


I did offer round mince pies before, but it didn't seem to bring forth much christmas spirit. I'm not doing a good job of being a Christmas happiness fairy so far...

 

[Guest]

Eggsakerly


I did offer round mince pies before, but it didn't seem to bring forth much christmas spirit. I'm not doing a good job of being a Christmas happiness fairy so far...

Well, EL Merry Christmas, you did a fairy good job of cheering up mine.