Winning hearts and minds?

REDWAVE

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Killing and wounding civilians with around the clock air assaults, slaughtering women and children in a car, checkpoints, house to house searches-- oh yeah, that's the way to win "hearts and minds," guys.
:rolleyes:

Not a single chemical or biological weapon has been found yet, so now the focus of the war propaganda has shifted to the brutality of Hussein's regime. Since the tremendous worsening in the living conditions of Iraqis since 1991 has been entirely due to the U.S. (and its U.K. lickspittle accomplices), and since it is the U.S. and U.K. invasion which is currently making the Iraqis' lives even more miserable, the hypocrisy of the U.S. war propaganda is glaringly obvious to the great majority of the world's people.

Very little, if any, humanitarian aid has gotten through to the Iraqis, most of whom are hungry and thirsty, but wow-- they sure secured those oil fields quickly, didn't they? Shows where their real priorities are.

The Bushies already seem to spend more time defending the war than pursuing it. The brutal acts of U.S. troops, and the incredible stupidity of Rummy's war plan, which used far too few forces for the job, against the advice of the Pentagon, have put Rummy and Myers deeply on the defensive. Myers even went so far today as to play the McCarthyite card, and implicitly accuse journalists who have criticized Rummy's disastrous war plan of disloyalty, by saying they did "a disservice to Americans in battle." It's obvious the slogan "Support the Troops" is being used to try to silence any criticisms of the barbaric crimes and imbecilic mistakes of the gangster Bush regime.

Lieutenant General William S. Wallace, the ground commander in Iraq (V Corps) inadvertently let the truth slip out when he said, "The enemy we're fighting against is different from the one we'd war gamed against."
:p
 
REDWAVE said:
Killing and wounding civilians with around the clock air assaults, slaughtering women and children in a car, checkpoints, house to house searches-- oh yeah, that's the way to win "hearts and minds," guys.
:rolleyes:

Not a single chemical or biological weapon has been found yet, so now the focus of the war propaganda has shifted to the brutality of Hussein's regime. Since the tremendous worsening in the living conditions of Iraqis since 1991 has been entirely due to the U.S. (and its U.K. lickspittle accomplices), and since it is the U.S. and U.K. invasion which is currently making the Iraqis' lives even more miserable, the hypocrisy of the U.S. war propaganda is glaringly obvious to the great majority of the world's people.

Very little, if any, humanitarian aid has gotten through to the Iraqis, most of whom are hungry and thirsty, but wow-- they sure secured those oil fields quickly, didn't they? Shows where their real priorities are.

The Bushies already seem to spend more time defending the war than pursuing it. The brutal acts of U.S. troops, and the incredible stupidity of Rummy's war plan, which used far too few forces for the job, against the advice of the Pentagon, have put Rummy and Myers deeply on the defensive. Myers even went so far today as to play the McCarthyite card, and implicitly accuse journalists who have criticized Rummy's disastrous war plan of disloyalty, by saying they did "a disservice to Americans in battle." It's obvious the slogan "Support the Troops" is being used to try to silence any criticisms of the barbaric crimes and imbecilic mistakes of the gangster Bush regime.

Lieutenant General William S. Wallace, the ground commander in Iraq (V Corps) inadvertently let the truth slip out when he said, "The enemy we're fighting against is different from the one we'd war gamed against."
:p

Time to wipe your arse, you dribble when you talk.........
 
I think they will have an easier time of it than you have had here RED.
 
Dream on

The Iraqis will never accept the brutal occupation by the U.S. imperialist invaders, and will eventually drive them from their land. The only question is how it will take.
 
Re: Dream on

REDWAVE said:
The Iraqis will never accept the brutal occupation by the U.S. imperialist invaders, and will eventually drive them from their land. The only question is how it will take.

Noted.
 
Hi Redwave,

So you have been reading headlines again?

Isn't that like studying for the bar exam by reading Cliff's Notes?
 
MissTaken said:
Hi Redwave,

So you have been reading headlines again?

Isn't that like studying for the bar exam by reading Cliff's Notes?


Cliff notes..... I was gonna guess Mad magazine.
 
REDWAVE said:
Killing and wounding civilians with around the clock air assaults, slaughtering women and children in a car, checkpoints, house to house searches-- oh yeah, that's the way to win "hearts and minds," guys.
:rolleyes:

Not a single chemical or biological weapon has been found yet, so now the focus of the war propaganda has shifted to the brutality of Hussein's regime. Since the tremendous worsening in the living conditions of Iraqis since 1991 has been entirely due to the U.S. (and its U.K. lickspittle accomplices), and since it is the U.S. and U.K. invasion which is currently making the Iraqis' lives even more miserable, the hypocrisy of the U.S. war propaganda is glaringly obvious to the great majority of the world's people.

Very little, if any, humanitarian aid has gotten through to the Iraqis, most of whom are hungry and thirsty, but wow-- they sure secured those oil fields quickly, didn't they? Shows where their real priorities are.

The Bushies already seem to spend more time defending the war than pursuing it. The brutal acts of U.S. troops, and the incredible stupidity of Rummy's war plan, which used far too few forces for the job, against the advice of the Pentagon, have put Rummy and Myers deeply on the defensive. Myers even went so far today as to play the McCarthyite card, and implicitly accuse journalists who have criticized Rummy's disastrous war plan of disloyalty, by saying they did "a disservice to Americans in battle." It's obvious the slogan "Support the Troops" is being used to try to silence any criticisms of the barbaric crimes and imbecilic mistakes of the gangster Bush regime.

Lieutenant General William S. Wallace, the ground commander in Iraq (V Corps) inadvertently let the truth slip out when he said, "The enemy we're fighting against is different from the one we'd war gamed against."
:p
I've run out of synonyms for "stupid."

Perhaps I can express it in av form:

TB4p
 
Rumsfeld - Rummy...hilarious!

Hey, Lieutenant General William Wallace (where have I heard that name?), nice grammar!
 
This war has already blown up in Bush's face. It's all about to come unravelled for him.
 
REDWAVE said:
This war has already blown up in Bush's face. It's all about to come unravelled for him.

Yes, the US troops are rushing to Bagdhad so they can surrender when they get there.

Thanks for the laugh RED! You're always good for one!
 
Bob_Bytchin said:
RED, I was nice enough to make you an AV:



LOL LOL LOL................LOL


Red if you don't love the land you live in get the fuck out

Or better yet go and volunteer to join Saddam army :D
 
You think at least they'd come up with an original line

Dreamguy001 said:
Red if you don't love the land you live in get the fuck out

Or better yet go and volunteer to join Saddam army :D

Gee, I've never heard that one before.
:rolleyes:
 
Well I see that REDWAVE's post has brought...

the usual mindless comments from the usual mindless jerks. Probably the biggest one I've come across recently is that 16 year old going on 12, teddybear4play, so I'll address this post to him just to give him a chance to redeem himself and leave his childhood behind.

So teddybear4play, what part of REDWAVE's post do you disagree with? And I don't want a blanket "all of it" reply, which is the defence of the idiot, but a properly written, well thought out analysis of what was written and your opposition to it...

Bet you don't, or can't, do it...

ppman
 
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Re: Well I see that REDWAVE's post has brought...

p_p_man said:
the usual mindless comments from the usual mindless jerks. Probably the biggest one I've come across recently is that 16 year old going on 12, teddybear4play, so I'll address this post to him just to give him a chance to redeem himself and leave his childhood behind.

So teddybear4play, what part of REDWAVE's post do you disagree with? And I don't want a blanket "all of it" reply, which is the defence of the idiot, but a properly written, well thought out analysis of what was written and your opposition to it...

Bet you don't, or can't, do it...

ppman

Oops...pressed the wrong key...but to waste not is to want not...

Still waiting...

ppman
 
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Re: Re: Well I see that REDWAVE's post has brought...

p_p_man said:
Oops...pressed the wrong key...but to waste not is to want not...

Still waiting...

ppman

Oh, I'll take a crack at it.

His assesment of the civilian deaths is right out of the Arab press. That will soon be discredited. Be that as it may, the only population that counts is that of Iraq and the majority of Iraqi's don't seem to be all that upset. It appears that their basic beef is that they aren't going to be allowed to behave as uncivilized barbarians without consequences. Oh well.

His assesment of the military conduct of the war is so at odds with the reality of the situation as to be laughable. In that respect he is uttering lies. It destroys any remaining credibility he might have had.

His comments regarding Gen. Wallace, are made in complete ignorance of the context of Gen. Wallaces comments. Gen. Wallace is on one side of a political battle being fought at the Pentagon. And the camp that Gen. Wallace represents is being discredited by the amazing success's that the coalition has enjoyed up to this point in time. And each time the naysayers have prognosticated a cataclysmic future, they have been futher discredited. The comments of Gen. Wallace, and other retired Army officers, have little to do with the conduct of the war and a lot to do with the future shape of the US Army.

So his comments fall into the category of one part spin, one part lies, and one part ignorance. A mixture of particular distaste to any person of reason.

Ishmael

"The failing of liberalism was its inability to deal with the truth." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan
 
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