Will we hear President Obama encourage Turkey's "democracy" protesters?

[eyer]

As Istanbul is about to blow?

Of course we won't...

...because fundamental Sunni Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is one of the President prime partners in illegally overthrowing the Syrian government of Alawite Shia Bashar Hafez al-Assad (Obama's other prime Muslim partners abetting him are Sunni Saudi Arabia and Sunni Qatar).

Now that the Shia Islamic Republic of Iran has effectively dispatched their terrorist arm Hezzbollah to assist their bro Assad in displacing a bunch of military gains the Sunni jihadist "rebels" had won...

...it is not the time for Obama to abandon an essential partner - unless, of course, he doesn't really care about backing-up his and his Sunni buddy's proclamation last month that Assad must give up power to a transitional government.

Officially, at least half of all in-country Turks are fed-up with Erdoğan's fundamental Islamism - Turkey was well on it's way to separation of church and state before he took office in 2003...

...they want Erdoğan to vacate office and for Turkey to chart a more secular course.

Sounds like something an American president could really support.

Unfortunately, though, for individual liberty lovers everywhere...

...the President of the USSA has his own political agenda.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Wait, the Marxist President of the USSA is . . . also a Sunni Muslim fanatic fighting the Shi'a heretics and the anti-Islamic apostate secularizers? This is a new combination. Keep going.

 

[phrodeau]

I like the idea of the US being the boss of the rest of the world. How much bigger should the Federal government get to accomplish that?

 

[Squibbs]

Hows about America keeps it's fucking nose out of other countries and their business.

You could always get off of your fat, daddy resenting ass and fight the good fight.

 

[eyer]

Daddy...

...why does your buddy SeanH's kids call you a pothead?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Daddy...

...why does your buddy SeanH's kids call you a pothead?

Shut up, and don't bogart the joint again.

 

[Squibbs]

Daddy...

...why does your buddy SeanH's kids call you a pothead?

Ha, sean doesnt see his kid.

You fail, just like your daddy did raising you.

 

[ChinaBandit]

Why do you assume that anyone in Turkey wants to hear anything from Obama...

 

[Sean Renaud]

Because most of the world clearly does.

 

[ChinaBandit]

Because most of the world clearly does.

How do you figure?

The word of the POTUS around the globe seems to mostly mesmerize terrorists.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

How do you figure?

The word of the POTUS around the globe seems to mostly mesmerize terrorists.

Definitely mesmerized bin Laden enough to get swiss-cheesed by lead press, didn't it?

 

[ChinaBandit]

Definitely mesmerized bin Laden enough to get swiss-cheesed by lead press, didn't it?

Irrelevant.

It's a huge presumption that people around the globe give a damn what the US president says.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Irrelevant.

It's a huge presumption that people around the globe give a damn what the US president says.

And yet, the conservative contingent here will post any negative foreign opinion about him that they can trawl up in their morning lobster traps.

Well, the ones that are translated, at any rate. God forbid anything not in English is worthy of a read.

 

[ChinaBandit]

And yet, the conservative contingent here will post any negative foreign opinion about him that they can trawl up in their morning lobster traps.

Well, the ones that are translated, at any rate. God forbid anything not in English is worthy of a read.

Unfortunately, negative generally resonates with people where as positive does not.
You seem to have the image of Obama because I referenced him in this situation.

The point actually applies to every American president since FDR with the exceptions of Kennedy and Clinton.

The outpouring of grief worldwide over Kennedy's murder was genuine. Bill Clinton, for whatever reason, is liked by most people everywhere.

Yes, they were both Democrats.

No, Obama does not have their admiration globally. Sorry.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Funny how you were posting about how China gives a shit what Obama says and does just a few days ago. We know that the Syrian Rebels have been hoping Obama would back them more openly than he has. I have no reason to think those in Turkey would be any different if things escalate.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Unfortunately, negative generally resonates with people where as positive does not.
You seem to have the image of Obama because I referenced him in this situation.

The point actually applies to every American president since FDR with the exceptions of Kennedy and Clinton.

The outpouring of grief worldwide over Kennedy's murder was genuine. Bill Clinton, for whatever reason, is liked by most people everywhere.

Yes, they were both Democrats.

No, Obama does not have their admiration globally. Sorry.

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion, it's all good.

Any popular world leader of a nation that's not on some Pol Pot status who gets assassinated is likely to capture some outpouring of grief worldwide. If only first-world level. Kinda a no-brainer, there. Sorry right back atcha.

 

[ChinaBandit]

Funny how you were posting about how China gives a shit what Obama says and does just a few days ago. We know that the Syrian Rebels have been hoping Obama would back them more openly than he has. I have no reason to think those in Turkey would be any different if things escalate.

In respect to China it is seen as Obama's failure to properly host THEIR leader and his wife. It is not what Obama has, or had, to say.

The Syrian opposition will take any bone thrown their way.

The situation in Turkey can't be compared in any way to Syria. The Turks have a duly elected government. If it falls, there will be an election OR the rather strong Turkish military will step in. I don't see a US role in either scenario. Perhaps, it is because of the very fact that the Turkish government was duly elected that the White House is quiet.

 

[ChinaBandit]

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion, it's all good.

Any popular world leader of a nation that's not on some Pol Pot status who gets assassinated is likely to capture some outpouring of grief worldwide. If only first-world level. Kinda a no-brainer, there. Sorry right back atcha.

Often, you just die. It doesn't matter how. Look at Chavez.

A man, by the way, people in Latin America listened to with far more interest and respect than the characters sitting at 1600 Pa Avenue.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Often, you just die. It doesn't matter how. Look at Chavez.

A man, by the way, people in Latin America listened to with far more interest and respect than the characters sitting at 1600 Pa Avenue.

And a man named Michael Jackson got more worldwide props for just dying than any world leader in modern history ever did and possibly ever will.

So, that just shuts down the over 100 million served McDonald's style bean-counting barometer value purty quick, even with opinions and theories factored in.

 

[ChinaBandit]

And a man named Michael Jackson got more worldwide props for just dying than any world leader in modern history ever did and possibly ever will.

So, that just shuts down the over 100 million served McDonald's style bean-counting barometer value purty quick, even with opinions and theories factored in.

Sorry. In my ignorance I don't know if you are trying to get more granular or expansive with this post. I do know that I have deviated from my intention. In specific, I suggest that the Turks are not interested in America's words of encouragement. I will add that the eyer 'assertion' that this is a democratic movement is ridiculous. The Turkish government was duly elected via a process that is TOTALLY recognized as being democratic.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The outpouring of grief worldwide over Kennedy's murder was genuine. Bill Clinton, for whatever reason, is liked by most people everywhere.

Yes, they were both Democrats.

No, Obama does not have their admiration globally. Sorry.

Oh, much more than theirs, I'm sure!

If Obama were assassinated there would be actual riots in foreign countries. That never happened for JFK.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I will add that the eyer 'assertion' that this is a democratic movement is ridiculous. The Turkish government was duly elected via a process that is TOTALLY recognized as being democratic.

On the Democracy Index, Turkey has about the same ranking as Venezuela.

FWIW.

 

[ChinaBandit]

If Obama were assassinated there would be actual riots in foreign countries. That never happened for JFK.

Riots? Please King. That's bullshit. You don't get around the world too much do you? I've posted pics of my million mile cards (that's right plural) before.

As for the EIU index. Double please. I know those clowns very well. In fact, I meet with them every year at the Frankfurt Bookfair. The only thing objective about the EIU is their management's collective desire to price gauge libraries.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Riots? Please King. That's bullshit. You don't get around the world too much do you? I've posted my pics of my million mile cards (that's right plural) before.

Well, I'm very confident there would be riots if Obama were assassinated, but I ain't gonna place a bet, 'cause I don't never want it settled.

 

[phrodeau]

Riots? Please King. That's bullshit. You don't get around the world too much do you? I've posted my pics of my million mile cards (that's right plural) before.

Yet you made the claim that the official Chinese press would be wailing about how Michelle Obama snubbed Xi and Peng. Not even Sarah Palin brought it up.