Wiccans, pagans and any other religion beside christianity, info please.
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Ambrosious
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Todd, did you get my e-mail, or do I need to "project" it to ya?
riff
Jose Jones
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This is interesting. I have never thought of Astral Projection as a religious practice.
I don't know where you could get more info on the subject, though I am certain that there are gobs of places you could get info on the web and usenet. Let me know if you find something good.
To my knowledge, I have never successfully astrally projected- though once at a channeling session I was told that I have a great ability to leave my body. Years later I had a very peculiar dream in which a friend accidentally shot me through the chest with a pistol we had found. As I laid on the staircase landing I realised that I was bleeding so profusely that I would never survive in time for help. There was a short panic, followed by sadness for my parents and siblings who would be upset, and then the realization that I had no power over this or dying- and then the thought: that is all over now- it is past (almost like moving to a foreign country) and slowly I could feel myself rising away like smoke from a flame.
I never felt afraid of this dream because it was not a "bad" dream at all (and I know the difference- I have had some scary ones). But I related this to a friend of mine- I never knew she was into such things- and she told me flat out that in this dream I was simply trying to leave my body.
While I consider myself a very empirical type of person, I have a mystical streak that is miles wide. Sometimes I wonder if there is a conflict somewhere. Intellectually I am very adventurous. Sometimes, however, I think myself a spiritual coward: like so many people, I want control of my life and the truth is that control is an illusion. We only think we have it.
If you ask me what that has to do with astral projection- don't ask me why I say this because I know nothing- but I think that something inside us has to be "right" or in the "right" state for this.
Final notes:
I like the idea of Douglas Adams in "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" where people can fly... they simply have to learn to fall without hitting the ground.
I am sure that the Jesus of Christianity knew all about this kind of thing. I mean, if your consciousness can leave your body and travel through space to other places.... well... walking on water can't be too far off either.
Peace.
I don't know where you could get more info on the subject, though I am certain that there are gobs of places you could get info on the web and usenet. Let me know if you find something good.
To my knowledge, I have never successfully astrally projected- though once at a channeling session I was told that I have a great ability to leave my body. Years later I had a very peculiar dream in which a friend accidentally shot me through the chest with a pistol we had found. As I laid on the staircase landing I realised that I was bleeding so profusely that I would never survive in time for help. There was a short panic, followed by sadness for my parents and siblings who would be upset, and then the realization that I had no power over this or dying- and then the thought: that is all over now- it is past (almost like moving to a foreign country) and slowly I could feel myself rising away like smoke from a flame.
I never felt afraid of this dream because it was not a "bad" dream at all (and I know the difference- I have had some scary ones). But I related this to a friend of mine- I never knew she was into such things- and she told me flat out that in this dream I was simply trying to leave my body.
While I consider myself a very empirical type of person, I have a mystical streak that is miles wide. Sometimes I wonder if there is a conflict somewhere. Intellectually I am very adventurous. Sometimes, however, I think myself a spiritual coward: like so many people, I want control of my life and the truth is that control is an illusion. We only think we have it.
If you ask me what that has to do with astral projection- don't ask me why I say this because I know nothing- but I think that something inside us has to be "right" or in the "right" state for this.
Final notes:
I like the idea of Douglas Adams in "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" where people can fly... they simply have to learn to fall without hitting the ground.
I am sure that the Jesus of Christianity knew all about this kind of thing. I mean, if your consciousness can leave your body and travel through space to other places.... well... walking on water can't be too far off either.
Peace.
CreamyLady
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You should have mail, Todd, eventually.
CreamyLady
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In my case, it is because I don't wish to discuss it in front of everyone.
Riff I respect her and Ambrosious privacy in such a matter. Sometimes do to mainline thought issues like these can be very ridiculed.
Heres my situation Feel free to laugh or make fun of me it could all be simple coiencidence.
This will sound so freaky and off the wall i do not even believe it myself and it could all be coincidence.
There is this girl back home{where I used to live} who I guess you could say I love from a distance nothing I ccould ever have though.
Well every night I dream of being with her haveing sex, being married and everthing the usual fantasy type stuff. well last week I had a particulary vivid dream where I swore I could feel and smell her.
Oh, yeah me and her talk all the time about everything we are like best friends.
Anyways she called up the next day and said she had a particualry vivid dream about sex with something she couldn't see and when she woke up in the morning she found her hymen was torn and there was blood on the bed and it
wasn't her period.
I was wondering is it possible that I may have Astral Travel and raped her???
Heres my situation Feel free to laugh or make fun of me it could all be simple coiencidence.
This will sound so freaky and off the wall i do not even believe it myself and it could all be coincidence.
There is this girl back home{where I used to live} who I guess you could say I love from a distance nothing I ccould ever have though.
Well every night I dream of being with her haveing sex, being married and everthing the usual fantasy type stuff. well last week I had a particulary vivid dream where I swore I could feel and smell her.
Oh, yeah me and her talk all the time about everything we are like best friends.
Anyways she called up the next day and said she had a particualry vivid dream about sex with something she couldn't see and when she woke up in the morning she found her hymen was torn and there was blood on the bed and it
wasn't her period.
I was wondering is it possible that I may have Astral Travel and raped her???
riff
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As for the Hitchhiker's Guide... it's been years and you are probably right.
I do not know if it could be considered astral projection- but I was recently telling a friend of mine that experience something that Carl Jung called "synchronicity."
I have had dreams that were not pre-cognitive... they were syn-cognitive. I have dreamed about things that were happening with people in my family- but I have also had it with people that I did not feel singularly close to. I cannot explain it- all I can say is that there is nothing "heebie-jeebie" about it. It simply happens and I find out about it and I find myself thinking about how wonderfully mysterious life can be. I am an average football watching, ball-scratching dude....
but something tells me that I am just a finger attached to a hand that belongs to something else. I think we all are.
As for the ridicule thing- if you have read my "anti-bush" posts I am sure you can see that I can dish it out. But I can take it too. I have an older brother who beat the shit out of me regularly- under such circumstances, one learns to take it- it's a survival skill.
Please let me know if you find some good info in AP. Let me know here. And to hell with what people say.
I do not know if it could be considered astral projection- but I was recently telling a friend of mine that experience something that Carl Jung called "synchronicity."
I have had dreams that were not pre-cognitive... they were syn-cognitive. I have dreamed about things that were happening with people in my family- but I have also had it with people that I did not feel singularly close to. I cannot explain it- all I can say is that there is nothing "heebie-jeebie" about it. It simply happens and I find out about it and I find myself thinking about how wonderfully mysterious life can be. I am an average football watching, ball-scratching dude....
but something tells me that I am just a finger attached to a hand that belongs to something else. I think we all are.
As for the ridicule thing- if you have read my "anti-bush" posts I am sure you can see that I can dish it out. But I can take it too. I have an older brother who beat the shit out of me regularly- under such circumstances, one learns to take it- it's a survival skill.
Please let me know if you find some good info in AP. Let me know here. And to hell with what people say.
Just to clarify a bit about me. I am christian and I think that Astral projection is something that happens. Though most if not all mainline christianity would deny it, but I think Astral Projection is a communions with your own spirit ans soul and the ability to travel within that whole realm.
So in Christian realms I think that Astral projection is something shunned upon. But I know in other religious practices outside of christianty ome of this special skills are studied and used more than in the christendom realm.
So far I have read very little on it and nothing aong the lines of what would be compared to Astral Projection Rape.
Thank you all for your assistence in my further study of this situation.
So in Christian realms I think that Astral projection is something shunned upon. But I know in other religious practices outside of christianty ome of this special skills are studied and used more than in the christendom realm.
So far I have read very little on it and nothing aong the lines of what would be compared to Astral Projection Rape.
Thank you all for your assistence in my further study of this situation.
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I'll pause a moment here to consider th- oh, what the hell?
I am by no means mainstream or closed to new ideas but Todd that is the single most stupid thing I have ever heard during my nineteen years on this planet.
I am by no means mainstream or closed to new ideas but Todd that is the single most stupid thing I have ever heard during my nineteen years on this planet.
SeXy ReDHeD
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Hey Todd
Maybe you should try calling the Coast to Coast AM show with Mike Segel (sp??). They talk a lot about that sort of stuff. He'd be the person to talk to.
http://www.artbell.com
Maybe you should try calling the Coast to Coast AM show with Mike Segel (sp??). They talk a lot about that sort of stuff. He'd be the person to talk to.
http://www.artbell.com
