Why the press is an organ of the Democrat Party and why that will change.

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

It’s the same reason that Dan Rather tossed Saddam Hussein softball questions in his interview prior to the run-up to war; because it allowed Dan continued access to power. The press has been siding with the Democrats for many years now because it garnered them access to power. It is also why they never ask Democrats tough questions as they do with Republicans. It has become an ingrained habit.

But, the Democrats lost the House, then the Senate, the Governorships, and then the White House and now stand to lose the Court as well. So to maintain access, they will soon start trending Republican when they see that the stunts, like the one they are currently pulling down on the ranch, not only backfire on them, but cause them to lose access to power and thusly losing their power with it.

And they ain’t gonna give up power, so they will gradually and quietly become a tool of the Republican Party.

 

[sticky_keyboard]

The problem is that the journalism professors at school indoctrinate the young impressionables with their own template of what America should be. I used to storm out of my classes, just livid with the bullshit the instructors were spewing. If you ever wondered what happened to fair and impartial journalism, it died in college mass com classes.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Yeah, but once you get out into the real world, reality pulls you back to the right and the reality is without Republican friends, a young journalist cannot get access to those in power, just Teddy Kennedy...



On a sidebar, I went back to college late in life after I already had established my career in computers just because it's one of those things everyone said you needed to do. Once I realized the "professors" were mearly reading the book to me, I stopped attending classes. I walked into one final and sat down and the guy next to me turned and asked "Are you supposed to be in this class?" I got an 'A.'

 

[cliffchuff]

its probably because teachers are paid so shit, over worked and subject to burn-out the profession squeezes the love out of people who want to share.

I heard they are considering making the school leaving 18 compulsire in the UK so they can totally crush any creativity out of the young.

no wonder the brits get so violent when they drink.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

What the bloody 'ell are you getting on about man?

 

[Ishmael]

The professors of those course are changing as well. The pendulum stops for no one.

Ishmael

 

[riff]

What a pile of horse-shit. Most people in America don't even watch or read the news. They just fucking hear things. The real media in the US consists of commercials and entertainment. Lifestyle propaganda.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

I somewhat agree with that statement, riff.

Yup. The press seems to be a lagging indicator, but the leadership of the past 20 years or so is slowly evaporating as are the ratings.

 

[~hellbaby~]

It’s the same reason that Dan Rather tossed Saddam Hussein softball questions in his interview prior to the run-up to war; because it allowed Dan continued access to power. The press has been siding with the Democrats for many years now because it garnered them access to power. It is also why they never ask Democrats tough questions as they do with Republicans. It has become an ingrained habit.

But, the Democrats lost the House, then the Senate, the Governorships, and then the White House and now stand to lose the Court as well. So to maintain access, they will soon start trending Republican when they see that the stunts, like the one they are currently pulling down on the ranch, not only backfire on them, but cause them to lose access to power and thusly losing their power with it.

And they ain’t gonna give up power, so they will gradually and quietly become a tool of the Republican Party.

The tough questions are asked, they just don't get answered,ever see a packed press conference? The fresher reporters ask but they are never the ones who get called.By the time your respected enough or of the caliaber to work with high ranking officials, you've been kissing ass so long to get where you are you don't know how do anything else, or won't risk the aftermath. Thats how it is, it all comes down to what the corporations who sign the checks want to sell or who they want in or out. Media depends on adveritsers, who work for big business who pull the strings.

 

[tim66]

Liberal press what a joke. It took an ambassador to prove Bush lied about uranium in Africa. Not the press. Where was this liberal press to question Bush's horseshit reasons for invading a sovereign country(Iraq)? They said nothing exccept sign me up to go along so I can see you kill innocent people. Where is the press to question support of Israeli murder of civilians including children. Why doesnt the press ask why there is no US pressure for Israel to get rid of its nukes or follow UN resolutions. Why isnt the press questioning why the US needs to spend as much as rest of world combined on military before Iraq invasion. Why isnt the press questioning the fact that Americans are dying and or having finaniial lifes ruined due to no health care or shitty health care. Why are they not asking why US healthcare is most expensive in the world but we do not lead in any of measureable stats such as infant deaths. Americans dont even come close to having a liberal view point in the media.

So why isnt the press asking about Bin Ladin. Duirng Iran hosatage there was a count every day that it was going on by the media. Why no pressure to make Bush find Bin Ladin? that was the guy who attacked the US. No one even asks hims questions about him? Also no one asks questions about Pvt Maupin who has been missing over a year in Iraq.

Fuck you in regards to thinking there is a liberal media.

 

[Ishmael]

Liberal press what a joke. It took an ambassador to prove Bush lied about uranium in Africa. Not the press. Where was this liberal press to question Bush's horseshit reasons for invading a sovereign country(Iraq)? They said nothing exccept sign me up to go along so I can see you kill innocent people. Where is the press to question support of Israeli murder of civilians including children. Why doesnt the press ask why there is no US pressure for Israel to get rid of its nukes or follow UN resolutions. Why isnt the press questioning why the US needs to spend as much as rest of world combined on military before Iraq invasion. Why isnt the press questioning the fact that Americans are dying and or having finaniial lifes ruined due to no health care or shitty health care. Why are they not asking why US healthcare is most expensive in the world but we do not lead in any of measureable stats such as infant deaths. Americans dont even come close to having a liberal view point in the media.

Yes, of course timmy. What the press didn't report is that the ambassador lied. He even admitted lying. He admitted it before the Senate Select Committee and even in his own book.

Your post is pretty much proof of what this thread is all about.

Ishmael

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yes, of course timmy. What the press didn't report is that the ambassador lied. He even admitted lying. He admitted it before the Senate Select Committee and even in his own book.

Your post is pretty much proof of what this thread is all about.

Ishmael

Go back to the initial op-ed piece in the New York Times that started the whole smearapalooza and find one, just one, error of fact.

You can't.

 

[Wrong Element]

How does the Washington Post's sponsorship of the administration's Leni Reifenstahl-comes-to-The Pentagon event scheduled for September 11 fit into your analysis?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

There was more than one reason given if you even care at this point, which I will asume for the sake of arguing with another one of the Bad News Bears that you don't.

Honest Joe. Forged documents. The commander who's lie was outed by his own daughter (again, to sell a book, a lot like Wilson). The irony is so very thick.

Tim, I didn't say the press was Liberal. They are Democrat. People have taken surveys and they are overwhelmingly Democrat. And there's a reason they are Democrat and a real reason why Bush's military record was given a complete anal, but to question Kerry's record caused Throb to go into meltdown mode and he's never recovered...

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

How does the Washington Post's sponsorship of the administration's Leni Reifenstahl-comes-to-The Pentagon event scheduled for September 11 fit into your analysis?

What is the Left's fascination with everything Nazi?

 

[Wrong Element]

What is the Left's fascination with everything Nazi?

If the jackboots fit...

No honestly, there is something to your first post, about certain media organs kissing the asses of the powerful regardless of party. I always know who the Cleveland Plain Dealer is going to endorse for President by looking who's ahead in the most recent poll.

But there's no such thing as "the press" in the sense of one hive mind.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

I agree. A group of individuals that end up thinking the same thing because of the same pressure: How to get access inorder to get the story.

Right now the Limbaughs, Boortzes, and Hannitys get the access and soon the pressure will be on other organizations to get access because with thought processes like Soros and Throb's the Democrats are not going to be winning any elections any time soon.

 

[quimlapper]

liberal press?

All the media really cares about is making money. Selling advertisements and keeping the stock holders happy. By slanting tward the left it is a whole lot easier to stir up controversy than it would be to cater to the vast majority of Americans who are neither far left or far right thinking individuals. Most of us are pretty moderate on most issues. The medias power to sway public opinion is highly over rated by both sides. Common sense usually prevails.

 

[bisexplicit]

Everyone knows that there is liberal and conservative news media. None are completely bias free, but there are just as many conservative talk radio shows, newspapers, and television news media programs as there are liberal ones (at least in my area).

 

[overthebow]

Yeah, but once you get out into the real world, reality pulls you back to the right and the reality is without Republican friends, a young journalist cannot get access to those in power, just Teddy Kennedy...



On a sidebar, I went back to college late in life after I already had established my career in computers just because it's one of those things everyone said you needed to do. Once I realized the "professors" were mearly reading the book to me, I stopped attending classes. I walked into one final and sat down and the guy next to me turned and asked "Are you supposed to be in this class?" I got an 'A.'

Reality is a bitch.

Then:

In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/m...6/K9EnvxEDzVZedCEtTg&pagewanted=all&position=

Now:

The Bush administration is significantly lowering expectations of what can be achieved in Iraq, recognizing that the United States will have to settle for far less progress than originally envisioned during the transition due to end in four months, according to U.S. officials in Washington and Baghdad.

The United States no longer expects to see a model new democracy, a self-supporting oil industry or a society in which the majority of people are free from serious security or economic challenges, U.S. officials say.

"What we expected to achieve was never realistic given the timetable or what unfolded on the ground," said a senior official involved in policy since the 2003 invasion. "We are in a process of absorbing the factors of the situation we're in and shedding the unreality that dominated at the beginning."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300853.html

 

[Wrong Element]

Right now the Limbaughs, Boortzes, and Hannitys get the access and soon the pressure will be on other organizations to get access because with thought processes like Soros and Throb's the Democrats are not going to be winning any elections any time soon.

It's going to be sooner than you think, more than likely. Even the post-Jefferson years and the Republican run from 1896-1932 came to an end eventually.

I think the current era is more like the post-Civil War years. Two straight close elections is unusual in American history, and I think we could very well have several more in a row. (/end digression)

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Is that akin to Hillary's people calling the networks and threatening lack of access if they didn't dump Ed Klein?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

It's going to be sooner than you think, more than likely. Even the post-Jefferson years and the Republican run from 1896-1932 came to an end eventually.

I think the current era is more like the post-Civil War years. Two straight close elections is unusual in American history, and I think we could very well have several more in a row. (/end digression)

I don't see elections remaing close. As you point out, close ones are few and far between, there will be a tipping point.

Later ladies and gents...

And Throb.

 

[RobDownSouth]

What is the Left's fascination with everything Nazi?

No so much the Nazis but the rebirth of Fascism in general. America in 2005 is lurching closer to Fascism now than at any time in the past 100 years.

12 Warning Signs of Fascism

 

[Gringao]

Back to the topic of the thread...

The reason the liberals' monopoly of the media is ending is that before you only had freedom of the press if you owned one. The cost of becoming a media outlet today has dropped to virtually zero, effectively destroying the MSM's monopoly.