Why Republicans Lose....

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[LiFeNdEaTh]

we won on election day... so how are we losers lol

 

[rosco rathbone]

Yeah, I was wondering why yall didn't go with Perry.

There's always next time.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

Linda got raped in votes aka Slaughtered

 

[Adre]

Pubs can spin all the shit they want, and pine away for St. Ron. The numbers, however, do not lie:

Asians, Hispanics, Blacks, women, voters under thirty all went for Obama in a very large way. A shrinking pile of old white men is all that's left to fight over. Have fun trying to win national elections with the current Republican Party platform

 

[hogjack]

Romney lost when he chose Paul Ryan. Choosing a doppleganger was really, really stupid. The Romney people thought issues and substance make a difference and it absolutely does not make difference.

All that matters is what someone looks like and if people like that person. That's it. Romney had a chance to think outside the proverbial box but Ryan was not it. Having a black, Latino or woman (not nutbag Palin) running mate would have made a huge difference.

Americans as a whole are not very bright and some literally cannot see beyond skin color or gender. Those are the majority of voters. Must cater to them.

 

[KyleW]

I wonder how many christians didn't vote for him because he's a mormon? I know some.

Statistics are fun!

 

[bronzeage]

Very interesting and it bolsters my argument that Republican moderates are losers:



...

On Tuesday night, it comes clear, as this is written using the latest Fox News figures, Mitt Romney lost to President Obama by 2,819,339 votes.
And the news ekes out that Moderate Nominee Number 10 Romney received some 3 million Republican votes less than Moderate Nominee Number 9 -- John McCain in 2008.


Which is to say, 3 million base GOP voters simply refused to vote for Romney. Doing the available math, that means had those 3 million Republicans voted for Romney he would have, as this is written, a margin of victory in the national popular vote of 180,661. Depending on the state spread, potentially an Electoral College victory as well.
Does the message get through here?
Well, for some in the GOP -- no.

...

http://forum.literotica.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=4

Just imagine how many votes a moderate Republican could pick up from the middle voters, if he told those 3 million GOP base voters to go fuck themselves and create their own party and quit being a millstone around the neck of the people who actually want to accomplish something. It might be more than 3 million.

Moderate Republicans are losers because they don't have the balls to take down the Mullahs and take back their party.

 

[landslider2000]

America was -- past tense -- the best big country in history.

Obama was a proven failure but voters wanted more.

America's new role isn't beacon of liberty, but welfare provider.

47 million on food stamps, 23 million unemployed, 12 million illegal immigrants, 16 trillion debt.

 

[Squibbs]

You lose because you are losers who always make excuses about being losers.

 

[koalabear]

America lost, not a party.

 

[KyleW]

America lost, not a party.

True. Not enough democrats were elected in state and local elections.

But there is hope.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

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[Wok]

Very interesting and it bolsters my argument that Republican moderates are losers:



When Conservatism Is a Second Language
By JEFFREY LORD on 11.8.12 @ 6:11AM

The New Reagans and the enduring principles of conservatism.

And so, another moderate fails.

Governor Romney is a good person, a great business leader.
But, alas, he is also a moderate Republican.

As were Herbert Hoover, Alf Landon, Wendell Willkie, Thomas E. Dewey, Gerald R. Ford, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole and John McCain. Making Mitt Romney a historical asterisk as the tenth moderate GOP nominee (Dewey was nominated twice) to lose the White House.

The exceptions to the rule are Dwight Eisenhower, who won not because he was a moderate but because he was the general-hero of World War II. Richard Nixon campaigned as the moderate he was in 1960 and lost. By 1968 he had won the nomination of a party that had shifted back to its conservative roots and he campaigned accordingly -- as he did in 1972. He won narrowly the second time, by a landslide the third. George H.W. Bush ran as the heir to Reagan in 1988 and won. Governing as a moderate he lost -- and lost badly in his 1992 re-election effort. George W. Bush ran as a "compassionate conservative" -- which is to say a moderate -- in 2000 and 2004 and squeaked by the first time thanks to the Supreme Court, winning the second time by a bare 100,000 votes in Ohio.

On Tuesday night, it comes clear, as this is written using the latest Fox News figures, Mitt Romney lost to President Obama by 2,819,339 votes.
And the news ekes out that Moderate Nominee Number 10 Romney received some 3 million Republican votes less than Moderate Nominee Number 9 -- John McCain in 2008.


Which is to say, 3 million base GOP voters simply refused to vote for Romney. Doing the available math, that means had those 3 million Republicans voted for Romney he would have, as this is written, a margin of victory in the national popular vote of 180,661. Depending on the state spread, potentially an Electoral College victory as well.
Does the message get through here?
Well, for some in the GOP -- no.

The usual call will now go up -- just as it did in 1950 from two-time loser Dewey -- that to nominate a conservative is to lose. Somehow heedless that it wasn't Ronald Reagan and his conservatism that lost or almost lost the White House, it was this seemingly endless stream of very nice moderate Republicans.

Reasonable people can be expected to raise the point of just when that old joke attributed to Einstein will come clear. You know the one. That the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. For Republicans, this translates as yet again nominating a moderate who is said to "move to the center," "can attract women," "get the youth vote" and "get the minority vote."

The strategy has failed repeatedly for some 80 years. Say again… 80 years!!!!! And yet there are still those out there who insist on doing the same thing over -- and over and over and over -- again.

At the heart of the Romney campaign -- of two Romney presidential campaigns in 2008 and 2012 -- was not principle but biography. And as day follows night yet another Democrat was available to take that biography, turn it upside down, inside out and shred it. In a blink the man with the career as a successful businessman became the man in the top hat from the Monopoly game.

There is abroad in the land -- and even here in the pages of The American Spectator with my colleague Aaron Goldstein -- the notion that "it's not 1980 anymore." Ironically, this is only the 2012 version of the argument that was made against Reagan himself in 1980. It wasn't 1920 anymore, went the reasoning. Reagan was just an old fashioned man out-of-step with the space-age 1980s.

Rest of article here:

http://forum.literotica.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=4

Doubling down will win it.

Yes, go with that.

 

[Sean]

Wouldn't it be fucking marvellous if the GOP go for someone like Santorum next time?

 

[KingOrfeo]

What you mean by "conservatism" is a minority position among the American people, vette.

You do understand that, don't you?

 

[koalabear]

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^ hahah, one lonely mothafucker hahah

No, he is in good company.

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[LiFeNdEaTh]

damn, that's a long list koala

 

[Wok]

Wouldn't it be fucking marvellous if the GOP go for someone like Santorum next time?

It seems every election cycle has the evangelical somewhere. I remember when Pat Robertson ran. Good times.

 

[Disgustipated]

No one on the GeeBee cares about the Playgrounders you have on iggy, koaladipshit.

 

[koalabear]

damn, that's a long list koala

Edited for a shorter post.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

Edited for a shorter post.

oh lol...

 

[KyleW]

Wouldn't it be fucking marvellous if the GOP go for someone like Santorum next time?

I would shit myself and be happy with that fact. Santorum probably posts here as BB, or whatever name he's carrying around as these days.

 

[doctor_insanus]

Republicans lose because their platform has become a vile morass of hatred, racism and misogyny. When they lose, it's not through any fault of their own; it's because the rest of America doesn't "measure up" to their standards. They exist in a bubble filled with their own noxious fumes, and they believe in their hearts that everybody wants to live in that same bubble.

Fuck them. It's past time they take a look in the mirror, and see just how ugly all those years of hatred have made them.

 

[zipman]

There are a lot of problems with the republican party. Moderation isn't one of them.

First off, republicans killed their own brand. The supposed party of fiscal responsibility and small government was completely silent during the 8 years that Bush did the complete opposite of those core beliefs. Hell, Cheney even came out and said that deficits don't matter. That was not only a big differentiator with most democrats but it was the most appealing aspect to many independents who also desire fiscal responsibility.

The second and probably even bigger problem is the far right wing seems to want to turn back the clock to the 1950s when women and minorities didn't matter and all they had to do was say the right things to the old, rich white guys. That's also not going to work. Just look at all the republican candidates whose extremist and often poorly worded rape comments did this election. They all lost. Let that sink in for a minute. Every one of them lost. The republicans are simply not an attractive party to blacks or hispanics and doubling down on that isn't a recipe for future success.

Another problem is that republicans seem to favor having their opinions reinforced with like-minded news sources which is why Romney and the rest of you really thought he would win. Sites like American Thinker are a joke to the majority of the country. They are not representative of what a majority of republicans think. Extremist views/candidates isn't the answer. Understanding who votes and what their issues and concerns are is.