Why i don't like nice guys

[ataxia.girl]

However, upon contemplation it seems clear to me that the above states it exactly backwards.

Assuming there is a correlation between the possessing power and being able to deal with the consequences of the exercise of that power, then it appears obvious to me that it is the irresponsible person (the "bad boy" if you will) whose power is definitionally limited. Whereas the responsible ("good guy" if you will) enjoys far more power because he will own up to and deal with the consequences of the exercise of his power.

Just so long as he doesn't give into the fear and stop exercising it. Also i wouldn't classify "owning up" as a distinction between the nice guy and the bad guy. i wondered when this discussion would degrade\ascend to a discussion about exactly what is good and what is bad. i think we'll be there soon.

For me the distinction probably isn't between good\nice versus bad\evil its between those who NEED to excercise power and those who are simply willing to. i'm assuming there are capable\competent exercisers of both varieties. Actually i think its usually the nice guy, willing exerciser, doing it for the other person Dom who is more likely not to go far enough, not to own up and more likely to stop playing.

i understand and have experienced those who need to exercise power that when things go wrong or get difficult prefer to just give up and move on to the next victim which is really just weakness and if that defines "bad boy" then yeah, i don't want one of those.

 

[ataxia.girl]

I have come to see with my own actions I not only want the bad boy, I want to be so beautiful and worthy to him that be will love me above all else, like the whole hope for honor among theives, what we dont realize is it doesnt exist.

We are like toys or trinkets, once the novelty has worn off and we can no longer be used the love goes away and the malice returns.

Yes well unfound i've read lots of your posts and i've got a sneaking suspicion you and i suffer from the same ailment. i'm just older and have been doing it longer.

Crazy girls are more fun to fuck. We should start a thread about that.

 

[rbijon]

Nice guy?
Not here, just a mischievous Pirate!
A little ravish & plunder, maybe!

 

[Primalex]

Somebody's been reading way too much Nietzche and Plato!

Nietzsche is a blowjob of the mind. There is not "too much".


(Damned, where is the next aphorism contest? I need to participate with this one.)

 

[ataxia.girl]

Nietzsche is a blowjob of the mind. There is not "too much".

(Damned, where is the next aphorism contest? I need to participate with this one.)

i'm a Heidegger girl though Derrida will also do nicely.

 

[jockdom]

Nietzsche is a blowjob of the mind. There is not "too much".


(Damned, where is the next aphorism contest? I need to participate with this one.)

He's like the boy's own manual of philosophy.

 

[SinfulSailor]

Just so long as he doesn't give into the fear and stop exercising it.

I guess that could go either way. Good guy or bad guy. (Though they would probably be afraid of different things, still the outcome would be the same.)

But apparently what you want is a combination of a guy with the inner desire (kinkiness) and the balls (inner and outer strength) to consistently uphold his (the dominant and sadistic) end of the relationship combined with a guy who has the integrity to stick with the relationship over the long haul so you're not left out in the cold with nothing but an ache for what could have been.

Is that close?

If it is, I can completely understand that. It makes perfect sense to me.

I will say though, that I have not observed many of those men around.

In fairness (at the same time) I have not observed many of their counterparts (women who will give it all up unconditionally and stick for the long haul) around either.

So that's just the way of the world.

Also i wouldn't classify "owning up" as a distinction between the nice guy and the bad guy.

"Owning up" may not be pertinent to your original post. But, these threads tend to wander a bit, it is still in the ballpark and I find it a very interesting concept in its own right. But perhaps for another thread.

 

[twysted73]

We each have our own drummer who's beat we alone march to.

Some of us have a drummer with palsy.
I believe mine is thrice afflicted with OCD laced with mild insanity as well.

Regardless.....sooner or later....we will find ourselves marching next to someone who's keeping step.
Just be ready inside to take them with you when you do.

March on lovely little freaks. March on.

 

[unfoundiamond]

Yes well unfound i've read lots of your posts and i've got a sneaking suspicion you and i suffer from the same ailment. i'm just older and have been doing it longer.

Crazy girls are more fun to fuck. We should start a thread about that.

LOL, you're cute ataxia, you made me smile...

And as far as us being alike, we may both like bad boys, but id also put your cute little ass over my knee if you pissed me off...

So im a little tiny bit diffrent.

But we should definately make the thread about bad girls... im not so crazy as I am twisted, im a hard ass and no nonsence, if that's crazy im crazy like a fox.

 

[ataxia.girl]

"Owning up" may not be pertinent to your original post. But, these threads tend to wander a bit, it is still in the ballpark and I find it a very interesting concept in its own right. But perhaps for another thread.

i think it belongs here along with the discussion of what a nice guy is and what a bad guy is. For me the owning up part can belong to either. It is definitely a necessity either way. Lots of guys "own up" but are too lazy to carry on. Their regret doesn't really help me.

 

[rbijon]

Pirates regret nothing

 

[ataxia.girl]

March on lovely little freaks. March on.

*marching*

 

[SinfulSailor]

i think it belongs here along with the discussion of what a nice guy is and what a bad guy is. For me the owning up part can belong to either. It is definitely a necessity either way. Lots of guys "own up" but are too lazy to carry on. Their regret doesn't really help me.

That's very perceptive. You're right. A man's gotta own up and then clean up and then get things moving forward again positively.

 

[unfoundiamond]

**Marches and skanks around like a im in a mosh pit periodically**

 

[KLCK]

Now i know damn well that even were i to attain this holy grail i would immediately question their love and require more and more proof. i would also need to be pushed lower and lower and then loved more and more deeply.

So you need to be lowered and lowered to the lowest low before someone can see you for what you are and love you? This sounds corny, but why does your heart lie in such a low place?

What do you define as a bad guy? What makes a good guy?

Are you sure your not mixing up boring guys and exciting guys?

*is a disgruntled nice guy*

 

[ataxia.girl]

So you need to be lowered and lowered to the lowest low before someone can see you for what you are and love you? This sounds corny, but why does your heart lie in such a low place?

My sister thinks its from being raised in a double bind which is possible i guess. Might just be genetic. Its hard to say. i was raised in a fairly oppresive religious environment, coupled with my need to please and the fact that i am, at heart, a slut it made for a very conflicted experience. There seem to be genetic factors in my family as well that just make us basically more inwardly tortured but who knows. Finding the reason doesn't always make the problem go away i've found.

 

[KLCK]

My sister thinks its from being raised in a double bind which is possible i guess. Might just be genetic. Its hard to say. i was raised in a fairly oppresive religious environment, coupled with my need to please and the fact that i am, at heart, a slut it made for a very conflicted experience. There seem to be genetic factors in my family as well that just make us basically more inwardly tortured but who knows. Finding the reason doesn't always make the problem go away i've found.

So your a nice women who was raised in a oppressive religious setting. By oppressive religious setting do you mean "Achtung you must be ein housewife!" or something along the lines of non-individuality indoctrination due to your sex?

Oh don't mind me, I am just dissecting you.

 

[ataxia.girl]

So your a nice women who was raised in a oppressive religious setting. By oppressive religious setting do you mean "Achtung you must be ein housewife!" or something along the lines of non-individuality indoctrination due to your sex?

Oh don't mind me, I am just dissecting you.

Something like that.

Why are we assuming i'm nice and what do you mean by that?

 

[KLCK]

Something like that.

Why are we assuming i'm nice and what do you mean by that?

Well...are you a mean person? Have you ever had thoughts of wanting punishment for past cruelties?

I don't know, it seems like the housewife indoctrination has made you have the "need to please" and (this is REALLY stretching it and getting into some crazy Freudian territory) made you slutty due to the "pump out children" mentality of housewives. Honestly I think your "tortured" mind may actually be hereditary like you said, but I think its just goo old fashioned depression.

Finding the reason doesn't always make the problem go away i've found.

Tell me if I am getting a bit annoying with my guesses and inquiries as to why you don't like nice guys. I will go shoo somewhere.

 

[YourCaptor]

Crazy girls are more fun to fuck. We should start a thread about that.

I loves the crazy girls

But we should definately make the thread about bad girls... im not so crazy as I am twisted, im a hard ass and no nonsence, if that's crazy im crazy like a fox.

Bad girl is not equal to crazy girl you know.

 

[YourCaptor]

Ok, problem with bad guys is it takes someone unstable to do something typically considered bad.

With one exception, the rebel.

He's got values you know, they just don't necessarily align with whats considered good.

 

[KLCK]

Ok, problem with bad guys is it takes someone unstable to do something typically considered bad.

With one exception, the rebel.

He's got values you know, they just don't necessarily align with whats considered good.

Holy shit I love your Avi and your sig!

So like...is the rebel...chaotic Neutral? *breathes through large ungainly nerd braces*

 

[YourCaptor]

Holy shit I love your Avi and your sig!

So like...is the rebel...chaotic Neutral? *breathes through large ungainly nerd braces*

chaotic neutral?

The rebel is whatever they think is right, or at least try to be like that

 

[KLCK]

Chatoic neutral...its a dungeons and dragons referance. I think...lol

So basically if he decieds that say...rape is ok then its ok?

 

[FurryFury]

Chatoic neutral...its a dungeons and dragons referance. I think...lol

So basically if he decieds that say...rape is ok then its ok?

You think?

I KNOW. LOL!

Nope, it's not okay, anywhere but in his own demented, I mean rebellious, mind.