Why have Republicans stopped bragging about the stock market?

[Botanical11B]

Again, details matter but until there is strong bipartisan support that can withstand outside pressure from interest groups to hammer out UHC, it won't happen.

Are you starting to understand why strong bipartisan support matters?

You don't get bipartisan support until the details get agreed upon.

I don't think it's interest groups, it's the policy.

Liberal care, Corporate care, Soviet care and Social Democrat care are all fundamentally at odds with one another.

That's because there has never been strong bipartisan support with the will to get UHC done.

Because "UHC" isn't a thing that can get done....it's not a thing, it's an end result.

An end result with strong bipartisan support, and not even partisan support on how to do it.

Because maybe as a first world nation we have a responsibility to take care of all of our citizens and that's failing under the current healthcare system.

According to what authority???

"first world nation" is just a tech/economic status last I checked, not a set of obligations to our people.

All our governments actual obligations are listed in the Constitution, black and white, pissing lefty Dems off to no end.

Nowhere in there is shitting all over the rights/liberties of it's states/citizens for equity, or providing a sense of satisfaction to the control freak leftist that INSIST on forcing all 50 states into something they won't even do to their own states.

And that is why until blue states set such an amazing example the rest of use voluntarily join in? There will be no "UHC"...whatever the fuck that is.

Time to lead the way Demz!!!! Show us how amazing a NO ID needed anyone who shows up with their hands out gets it HC system works California I fucking dare you.

 

[RoryN]

Ended down 900+.

 

[Dribble]

Ended down 900+.

So much for 2 trillion. Titanic theme....I will never forget you jack. .never...

 

[jomar]

You don't get bipartisan support until the details get agreed upon.

Again, if, as a nation, our leadership in DC says and agrees that we have a broken healthcare system and say let's fix it...if both sides agree that we need a system that covers all citizens (UHC), then they get together, compare and contrast and debate and it gets done.

I don't think it's interest groups, it's the policy.

There's a lot of pressure from interest groups. There's also the problem of institutional inertia and figuring out where all the moving parts go and how to get them there.

Liberal care, Corporate care, Soviet care and Social Democrat care are all fundamentally at odds with one another.

So? Doesn't mean some system can't be figured out.

Because "UHC" isn't a thing that can get done....it's not a thing, it's an end result.

An end result with strong bipartisan support, and not even partisan support on how to do it.

UHC can also be a starting point as well. See above.

According to what authority???

"first world nation" is just a tech/economic status last I checked, not a set of obligations to our people.

All our governments actual obligations are listed in the Constitution, black and white, pissing lefty Dems off to no end.

Nowhere in there is shitting all over the rights/liberties of it's states/citizens for equity, or providing a sense of satisfaction to the control freak leftist that INSIST on forcing all 50 states into something they won't even do to their own states.

We already have some forms of UHC for specific populations...Medicare/Medicaid, the VA system.

And now Trump is telling companies what to do by invoking the defense production act...is that the federal government shitting all over the rights/liberties of companies/capitalism/free markets?

 

[Botanical11B]

Again, if, as a nation, our leadership in DC says and agrees that we have a broken healthcare system and say let's fix it...if both sides agree that we need a system that covers all citizens (UHC), then they get together, compare and contrast and debate and it gets done.

UHC can also be a starting point as well. See above.

Except it doesn't get done and history shows that doesn't actually work.

So? Doesn't mean some system can't be figured out.

No it doesn't. But it makes it HIGHLY unlikely considering there is no majority support for any particular system.

We already have some forms of UHC for specific populations...Medicare/Medicaid, the VA system.

Yes. For specific populations.

If states did their own systems that would also be for a specific population and much more likely to happen than a one size fits all system the control freaks are insistent on forcing upon all 50 states.

Which I'm still not getting why it's so important to have a 1 size forced on all 50 states system.

And now Trump is telling companies what to do by invoking the defense production act...is that the federal government shitting all over the rights/liberties of companies/capitalism/free markets?

Yes it is and I disagree with his doing so. He should have made requests for voluntary support.

 

[icanhelp1]

Again, if, as a nation, our leadership in DC says and agrees that we have a broken healthcare system and say let's fix it...if both sides agree that we need a system that covers all citizens (UHC), then they get together, compare and contrast and debate and it gets done.



There's a lot of pressure from interest groups. There's also the problem of institutional inertia and figuring out where all the moving parts go and how to get them there.



So? Doesn't mean some system can't be figured out.



UHC can also be a starting point as well. See above.



We already have some forms of UHC for specific populations...Medicare/Medicaid, the VA system.

And now Trump is telling companies what to do by invoking the defense production act...is that the federal government shitting all over the rights/liberties of companies/capitalism/free markets?

UHC is not NHC. The states would be better positioned to handle health care. Sanders want's NHC and most americans don't want health care shoved down their throat.

DPA has been around for a while ( 1950 ) and used for a national emergency, it is government exercising control over manufacturing and it is a law. It eliminates inefficient dithers of congress to react to established needs and requirements of national defense.

 

[jomar]

Except it doesn't get done and history shows that doesn't actually work.

Again, there hasn't been committed bipartisan support to see it through so the historical failure reflects partisan efforts.

No it doesn't. But it makes it HIGHLY unlikely considering there is no majority support for any particular system.

Certainly could make the process take longer.

Yes. For specific populations.

If states did their own systems that would also be for a specific population and much more likely to happen than a one size fits all system the control freaks are insistent on forcing upon all 50 states.

Which I'm still not getting why it's so important to have a 1 size forced on all 50 states system.

Maybe, but it's not happening and something like 28 million are uncovered. Like I said, could be a basic system that covers all citizens with add on enhancements.

Yes it is and I disagree with his doing so. He should have made requests for voluntary support.

Imagine that, the great negotiator not being able to generate broad voluntary action.

 

[DeluxAuto]

We have a Republican in office. We are winning. Stop crying.

Every Republican president has been part of a recession and this one looks to be on the way. Facts and shit.

 

[jomar]

UHC is not NHC. The states would be better positioned to handle health care.

Maybe, so let the states do something so all citizens are covered. Why aren’t they doing it?

Sanders want's NHC and most americans don't want health care shoved down their throat.

People probably don’t care what the health care system looks like as long as they get great care in a timely manner and at reasonable costs.

DPA has been around for a while ( 1950 ) and used for a national emergency, it is government exercising control over manufacturing and it is a law. It eliminates inefficient dithers of congress to react to established needs and requirements of national defense.

Sure, too bad trump couldn’t use his art of the deal instead.

 

[muycurioso]

libbies/globalists and FEAR shutting down the economy

They were so proud. Trumpy was taking credit for it, and they followed suit.

What changed?

and the market is back up. Better Q is why you root for the economy to crash

 

[Botanical11B]

Again, there hasn't been committed bipartisan support to see it through so the historical failure reflects partisan efforts.

And until you get people on the same page about what "it" is....even partisan efforts are going to be rare and almost certainly doomed to fail.

Again, policy details.

Certainly could make the process take longer.

How many decades have to go by before you recognize it likely is?? You're pushing 70 years now......

Maybe, but it's not happening

And we know why......when it comes down to actually doing the do, blue won't pull the trigger. They won't lead the way.

and something like 28 million are uncovered.

Blue state issue that blue states refuse to do anything about.

Like I said, could be a basic system that covers all citizens with add on enhancements.

Could be, but good luck getting a federal majority of people and states together on that.

Imagine that, the great negotiator not being able to generate broad voluntary action.

And he's still more appealing than anything the (D)'s had to offer. Sad.

 

[urguyscott]

ruh-roh.

When urguyscott comes out of the Politics Board to slum it up on the GB and gets on his hind legs going into a rabies tear, you know some shit is going down somewhere!

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You notice Irezumikiss and the other Anti-Americans never deny what has been said but only come up with some excuse for putting their head in the sand. I thank them for admitting that what we say about the corruption and treason of members of the DNC Party under its leader George Soros is true.

Under the illiterate leadership of Ms. Nancy P. (my apology to Nancy as the Gov. of N.Y. and CA both have stated that there are no women or men in their party and that to address any member as such is an attack on their non gender. The fact they are too stupid to pull their pants down and bend over and see what sex they are is understandable) they insulted every section of the country, including race, gender, religion, workers, unions, economy, health care, education, elderly and children. We saw that at the last two State of the Union Messages. They didn't miss one American in their assault. The only followers they have are brain dead and love to be treated like trash and slaves. But its a free country and if the leftist wanted everyone to treat them that way who are we to hurt their feelings?

Nancy P. and her gang held up relief to the American people. They see nothing wrong with putting Americans out of work or killing them after all they are ruled by the Chinese and Russians who don't even care about their own peoples health and welfare. As long as they make money off the slave labor of the Chinese people at the cost of their own people like the rest of the world (that is the reason for so many in Italy, the area was owned and run by the Chinese government business interest. They never hire native workers but use their own slaves who in turn give half their money back to the Emperor of China.)

But the main thing is that the leftist puppets on here agree with us about the worthless leaders of their party and how they feel and treat the American people. For being so honest, in their round about way, we all thank them.

Their only chance to win an election is to cheat. We have seen how they tried in Iowa and California and what a mess they did of it. But they are working on it. In CA we have lost our voting rights. They have taken our polling places out of the neighborhood and made it easier to cast illegal votes at the cost of our rights and freedom. They have fixed it so we have only one party candidates like in Russian and China even forcing out the other leftist parties in the state. Taxes and crime have gone up and we were hurting in our economy before the Chinese made a mess of the world. But that's the Dumbacrats. Maybe someday the real Democrats will take back their party.

Thank you Irez and your non American buddies on here for agreeing with us about the worthlessness of the American Soros Party. At least we all agree on one thing.

 

[Pookie]

Setting up to be a brutal day - Dow set to open down around 900 points

This follows the worst first quarter on record for the Dow and S&P 500.

 

[great lover]

Setting up to be a brutal day - Dow set to open down around 900 points

This follows the worst first quarter on record for the Dow and S&P 500.

Pookie, nobody can predict the stock market

 

[Pookie]

Pookie, nobody can predict the stock market

By definition, I just did.

 

[Pookie]

21,048.20 −868.96 (3.96%) Apr 1, 9:30 AM EDT

 

[RobDownSouth]

Lamb Weston (french fry moguls in Idaho) leads the decline with unexpected YUUUUGE losses. Seems nobody outside of Murica wants fries with their happy meals nowadays.

Macys Department Stores...MACYS!....has now lost so much of its market capitalization it will be dropped from the S&P 500 on April 6th and move to the Small Cap 600. Expect a lot of stock dumping from funds that mirror the S&P500.

 

[coati]

Meanwhile, Lit Deplorables are currently bumping a BB thread based on the BB assumption that if the impeached President loses the next election, it will only be because a primarily mail-ballot election will be rigged by the Democrats.

Astounding. They make excuses for Trump's bizarre behavior for the past four years, and now they are already setting the stage for how they will make excuses if he loses the election.

And, Lit Deplorables continue to bump the threads of the most racist propagandist on the General Board.

Nine more months of this crap.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

You notice Irezumikiss

Yes, I'm very noticeable. Trailblazers often are.

Thank you for the tribute, my little caterpillar.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/dBrBa7AWqAzk59UvkP/source.gif

Meanwhile, Lit Deplorables are currently bumping a BB thread based on the BB assumption that if the impeached President loses the next election, it will only be because a primarily mail-ballot election will be rigged by the Democrats.

Astounding. They make excuses for Trump's bizarre behavior for the past four years, and now they are already setting the stage for how they will make excuses if he loses the election.

And, Lit Deplorables continue to bump the threads of the most racist propagandist on the General Board.

Nine more months of this crap.

They know Cheeto is shitting in his own pot. They're just preemptively putting down pillows for when the floor finally caves in.

 

[Botanical11B]

Lamb Weston (french fry moguls in Idaho) leads the decline with unexpected YUUUUGE losses. Seems nobody outside of Murica wants fries with their happy meals nowadays.

Or this could be fallout from both Canadian and US potato farmers having one of their most disastrous years ever in 2019 after unusually early, wet and cold winter weather ruined most of their crops....this coming after a huge disease issue in 2016 and 2018 was a deathblow to a number of businesses in the tater industry. From farms to processing plants.

But maybe, people just stopped liking french fries. Yea...that's it.

Macys Department Stores...MACYS!....has now lost so much of its market capitalization it will be dropped from the S&P 500 on April 6th and move to the Small Cap 600. Expect a lot of stock dumping from funds that mirror the S&P500.

Macy's shit the bed in 2015 and has been going the way of SEARS for a while now, no shocker there.

JC Penny and Nordstrom are also on their way out too.

Seems for whatever reason mega-box clothing/home goods retail is no longer a sustainable business model. I'm guessing the endless internet boutique shops that will do your shit custom for the same or less are killing it.

 

[Hugh_Essay]

So much winning. I cant believe all the winning I'm seeing. Lol

 

[Pookie]

20,943.51 −973.65 (4.44%) Apr 1, 4:20 PM EDT

This month could get seriously ugly in more ways than one.

 

[RoryN]

The Dow rally went boom boom yesterday.

Let's see if it can lick its wounds and recover today...

 

[coati]

Similar to the last recession, those who are producing the essentials and those who are providing essential services remain in extreme demand. I have never been busier nor had more demand for construction/repair/maintenance/food production services. I never cease to be amazed at how devoid the general public is of basic essential skills. These days I barely have time to spend on the internet.

Every healthcare worker I know has job security, but is under the stress of too much demand and much higher risk. Same holds for grocery/pharmacy workers, bus drivers, and other service workers. Because they can't do their work and maintain distance, the only ones who can safely do those jobs will be those who have already recovered from the virus and carry antibodies.

Those who are involved in crap production, frivolous services, or in-person entertainment are on the ropes. And those who used the stock market as their glorified savings account without sufficient thought about what would happen during a severe recession are taking a big hit, a recession that may not rebound, as the impeached President likes to say, "sooner rather than later".

The thing is, all those stock market investors want things to return to the fantasy land of endless growth, but the laws of nature are exerting their own limitations on how far that fantasy will go.

 

[Botanical11B]

The thing is, all those stock market investors want things to return to the fantasy land of endless growth, but the laws of nature are exerting their own limitations on how far that fantasy will go.

Endless growth is the fantasy of the left, about investors.

In the real world investors know there is no such thing and try to invest accordingly, many losing their investments along the way.