Why does Trump say the U.S. needs Greenland for "national security"?

[Politruk]

I just don't see it. Insofar as the mere location has any strategic value, we already have that covered, since Denmark -- as our NATO ally -- has for decades allowed the U.S. to maintain a military base there. This is really a relic of the Cold War -- it was conceived to counter Russia as the enemy, and Trump clearly does not see it as one even in potential.

Otherwise, all Greenland has is fishing and mining, and the U.S. already has plenty of both -- what strategic value in acquiring Greenland's?

 

[Politruk]

No one in all history has ever fought a war over Greenland.

There has been war over the Falkland Islands, but never Greenland.

 

[LLCox]

Because he stuck his foot in his mouth and can't back out now.

 

[Politruk]

It's a legacy thing. Trump just wants to be the first president since the Spanish-American War to expand the American territory.

If only there were some way to interest him in Antarctica -- I mean, it's already called "Little America"! (No, really -- North America, South America, Little America -- get it?)

 

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

I just don't see it. Insofar as the mere location has any strategic value, we already have that covered, since Denmark -- as our NATO ally -- has for decades allowed the U.S. to maintain a military base there. This is really a relic of the Cold War -- it was conceived to counter Russia as the enemy, and Trump clearly does not see it as one even in potential.

Otherwise, all Greenland has is fishing and mining, and the U.S. already has plenty of both -- what strategic value in acquiring Greenland's?

Minerals just like he wants from Ukraine

 

[Cat]

Minerals just like he wants from Ukraine

But the thing is: the infrastructure in Greenland is a bitch!!

And that country is huge! From the capital Nuuk to the American Space Base Pituffik - you have to fly 1500 km.

The county is mostly ice, kilometres of ice.

If he really wanted the minerals, then he is more than welcome to talk with Greenland - they are extremely interested in opening mines.

Just with a small clause: it is illegal to mine uranium, even as a side product.

My best guess? Legacy. He wants to create the biggest empire ever seen.
And not caring how.

A prime example of an insecure and incompetent man, that easily falls for flatter. Maybe someone gave him that idea?

Putin is supporting him.. and in that same breath, mentioning that Putin is interested in Svalbard, Norwegian territory.

..... Well, good thing that Trump is doing a litmus test on NATO, and creating some precedence. Right?

 

[Rightguide]

I just don't see it. Insofar as the mere location has any strategic value, we already have that covered, since Denmark -- as our NATO ally -- has for decades allowed the U.S. to maintain a military base there. This is really a relic of the Cold War -- it was conceived to counter Russia as the enemy, and Trump clearly does not see it as one even in potential.

Otherwise, all Greenland has is fishing and mining, and the U.S. already has plenty of both -- what strategic value in acquiring Greenland's?

You don't see it because you aren't a strategic thinker, nor are you aware of Russian and Chinese activities in the region that present security threats to the US and Canada. Search for the subject and look at the map.

 

[Cat]

You don't see it because you aren't a strategic thinker, nor are you aware of Russian and Chinese activities in the region that present security threats to the US and Canada. Search for the subject and look at the map.

So he wants to put tariffs on some possible trade routes.. well, let us hope that the AMOC never collapses, then.

You cannot honestly believe that?

Also, if it is military related. Please read and understand the military agreements. USA are responsible, together with Denmark and NATO, in protecting Greenland.

So, we are back to the legacy theory, and possibly litmus testing of NATO. (Putin gives his thanks)

 

[Escierto]

Our wannabe Hitler wants to be just like his hero, Putin, and take over some neighboring country. Greenland and Canada look like patsies that can be had for the taking. Of course 41 million irate Canucks might be more than he can handle.

I notice he never mentions taking over Mexico. I imagine a few videos of cartel gunmen cutting off the heads of their victims with chainsaws would probably kill the appetite for glory. Mexico would make Vietnam look like a children's picnic.

 

[Politruk]

Also, if it is military related. Please read and understand the military agreements. USA are responsible, together with Denmark and NATO, in protecting Greenland.

Exactly. Bringing Greenland under direct U.S. control would add no security that does not now exist.

 

[Politruk]

I notice he never mentions taking over Mexico.

He doesn't want no more Latinos in the U.S., that's like his whole thing. Canadians are white.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You don't see it because you aren't a strategic thinker, nor are you aware of Russian and Chinese activities in the region that present security threats to the US and Canada. Search for the subject and look at the map.

Fuck off, you don't have the right to use Canada in any of your fucked up posts, you hypocritical piece of shit. You barely have a grasp on the US, don't try and pretend to speak for others.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You don't see it because you aren't a strategic thinker, nor are you aware of Russian and Chinese activities in the region that present security threats to the US and Canada. Search for the subject and look at the map.

BTW, Trump keeps going on about this 51st state bullshit, and you might wake up to find China right on that 5500 mile long border....even the part touching Idaho. And there isn't a fucking thing you or Trump can do about it.

 

[Politruk]

You don't see it because you aren't a strategic thinker, nor are you aware of Russian and Chinese activities in the region that present security threats to the US and Canada. Search for the subject and look at the map.

Russia and China sail ships in the North Atlantic. And will continue to do so, and have a right to do so under international law, if Greenland becomes U.S. territory.

 

[Cat]

Russia and China sail ships in the North Atlantic. And will continue to do so, and have a right to do so under international law, if Greenland becomes U.S. territory.

So.. what are we thinking? Legacy and creating precedence regarding to annexing NATO countries?

Putin is looking at Svalbard.

 

[Cogan]

So.. what are we thinking? Legacy and creating precedence regarding to annexing NATO countries?

Putin is looking at Svalbard.

I hope the polar bears helps the Norwegian trops against the Russians.
(I start to feel a bit surrounded by those two "I take what I want" idiots!)

 

[Cat]

I hope the polar bears helps the Norwegian trops against the Russians.
(I start to feel a bit surrounded by those two "I take what I want" idiots!)

It is truly uncomfortable. Especially when those two Risk playing Emperor's in spe are controlling the SoMe and having a, let us say.. a carefree relationship with the objective truth.

That is the recipe for disaster.

 

[jomar]

I just don't see it. Insofar as the mere location has any strategic value, we already have that covered, since Denmark -- as our NATO ally -- has for decades allowed the U.S. to maintain a military base there. This is really a relic of the Cold War -- it was conceived to counter Russia as the enemy, and Trump clearly does not see it as one even in potential.

Otherwise, all Greenland has is fishing and mining, and the U.S. already has plenty of both -- what strategic value in acquiring Greenland's?

Ice is melting and new sea lanes will open up so if we’ll probably need a stronger presence there to fend off China and Russia in those seas.

But trump’s negotiation style is a punch to the face as an opening move. The art of the deal, yeah?

 

[Politruk]

Ice is melting and new sea lanes will open up

If the ice melts, Greenland will be two or three much smaller islands.

 

[Cat]

Ice is melting and new sea lanes will open up so if we’ll probably need a stronger presence there to fend off China and Russia in those seas.

But trump’s negotiation style is a punch to the face as an opening move. The art of the deal, yeah?

Good thing that we have a military agreement, since 1941 (!) That allows you to expand and have almost free reign.

Almost, we do not want another Camp Century, right?

So that has been taken care of.

Why do you want to annex Greenland then?

 

[Cat]

If the ice melts, Greenland will be two or three much smaller islands.

That too. Better that the AMOC breaks down.. or.. darn it, both possibilities are pretty awful.

 

[jomar]

Good thing that we have a military agreement, since 1941 (!) That allows you to expand and have almost free reign.

Almost, we do not want another Camp Century, right?

So that has been taken care of.

Why do you want to annex Greenland then?

Because he does things bigly.

And he’s a bully. And he doesn’t understand complex relationships, only transactional ones.

 

[Cogan]

Good thing that we have a military agreement, since 1941 (!) That allows you to expand and have almost free reign.

Almost, we do not want another Camp Century, right?

So that has been taken care of.

Why do you want to annex Greenland then?

pssst! Tell them how much money Denmark pay to the people of Greenland every year. I don't think it will be so interesting then......you know how found USA are off the European welfare, right?

 

[Cat]

Because he does things bigly.

And he’s a bully. And he doesn’t understand complex relationships, only transactional ones.

But, what he also does is paving the way for other countries.

Precedence is a dangerous thing.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Good thing that we have a military agreement, since 1941 (!) That allows you to expand and have almost free reign.

Almost, we do not want another Camp Century, right?

So that has been taken care of.

Why do you want to annex Greenland then?

I'm pretty sure Trump can't even find Greenland on a map,( which is why Vance went, at least he has an idea, and a good pilot) and to suggest he's aware of an agreement from 1941, well that's not too likely....