Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle?

[phrodeau]

But you assume that they aren't willing to? Or cannot be that proficient? Or is it the psych test that you believe we can't pass.

News flash for you, Skippy. Over the past 5 years alone I have passed at least 20 drug screens, some included blood and hair follicle testing, more than a dozen criminal background checks including some VERY stringent, in depth investigations to be approved as a contractor on military bases, to work a six week contract in the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland (where I was replacing outdated equipment in the vaults) and most recently to obtain the Haz-Mat endorsement on my CDL. I have also, in the past, been an NRA certified pistol instructor and a competitive shooter in several shooting sports. No, I am not the only one. There are far more of us than you would even begin to believe

Again, I ask that you people stop making ignorant assumptions about things you obviously know jack shit about. You all say you want an intelligent discourse and then act like rude little children. You say you want truth but you don't want to hear it. Instead you want what you already believe to be the truth. But truth doesn't work that way. Truth is backed up by fact and evidence. Not just what CNN told you.

Like many of you CNN wouldn't admit the truth to save their own children's lives. And that IS what this is all about.

OK, you count as one.

I know several gun owners, and a couple of them can hit a target. Most of them are game hunters, and of that lot every one goes to it plastered.

 

[coachdb18]

OK, you count as one.

I know several gun owners, and a couple of them can hit a target. Most of them are game hunters, and of that lot every one goes to it plastered.

Sounds like the old 'I'm not a racist, I actually know a black guy' defense.

 

[My I]

I can see that you don't understand , that's o.k. Now that you have drawn the line, I can ask you why you draw the line after the phantom assault rifle? Why are they o.k and the others extreme? That's the only question that me and others have asked and we never get a response.

First of all, what IS an "assault rifle". That's a term made up by liberal media to vilify certain guns they believe to be inherently evil.

Second, What the fuck is a PHANTOM assault rifle? And where the fuck did that enter this debate?

Where the fuck did I say they were "o.k."?

And just what line did I draw?

 

[LincolnDuncan]

First of all, what IS an "assault rifle". That's a term made up by liberal media to vilify certain guns they believe to be inherently evil.

Second, What the fuck is a PHANTOM assault rifle? And where the fuck did that enter this debate?

Where the fuck did I say they were "o.k."?

And just what line did I draw?

nevermind

 

[KeithD]

Deflect. Distract. Nitpick. Fool yourself thinking you've been a responsible human being.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Fetus in the womb vs. little kids in classrooms

Only in the fucked up nutbag Christian universe are these the same thing, so speak for yourself.

You only care about the fetus, not the child. You'll work your ass off to protect the fetus, but rant about your "rights" when kids are blown away at school. How Christian of you.

Actually, I can't see how you'd be able to use a handgun on a fetus--I mean, you'd have to kill the mother. Maybe shoot her right in the uterus?

Most abortions are done by just vacuuming and scraping right off the walls of the womb. By the time you do the procedure, you'd have nothing to shoot. You have to wait till they mature and are born and grow up up and go to first grade for that, dummy

Yes, please do tell us of your support for abortion, and how many baby killings have you supported? Maybe we should make it a requirement that abortions be performed with a handgun?

 

[coachdb18]

Fetus in the womb vs. little kids in classrooms

Only in the fucked up nutbag Christian universe are these the same thing, so speak for yourself.

You only care about the fetus, not the child. You'll work your ass off to protect the fetus, but rant about your "rights" when kids are blown away at school. How Christian of you.

Actually, I can't see how you'd be able to use a handgun on a fetus--I mean, you'd have to kill the mother. Maybe shoot her right in the uterus?

Most abortions are done by just vacuuming and scraping right off the walls of the womb. By the time you do the procedure, you'd have nothing to shoot. You have to wait till they mature and are born and grow up up and go to first grade for that, dummy

So you only support murder at specific ages... maybe 2 or 3 months before birth, maybe it's also OK again when you turn 24, again at 35.... should be very interesting what goes on in your mind... keeping in mind that Nazi theory devalued certain human beings as less valuable than others, thus their extermination was 'justified'...

 

[My I]

nevermind

DON'T YOU DARE!!!!!


You wanted an intelligent discussion and I gave it to you.

You wanted to act like a child and I called you on it.

Then you want to claim I said things I didn't and I called you on on it.

NOW FUCKING EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

 

[My I]

OK, you count as one.

I know several gun owners, and a couple of them can hit a target. Most of them are game hunters, and of that lot every one goes to it plastered.

You have no idea just how far your credibility dropped, do you?

 

[KeithD]

DON'T YOU DARE!!!!!


You wanted an intelligent discussion and I gave it to you.

You wanted to act like a child and I called you on it.

Then you want to claim I said things I didn't and I called you on on it.

NOW FUCKING EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

Can't see why you have a leg to stand on on this. You completely failed to respond to my logical tear down of your totally idiotic OP.

 

[coachdb18]

Can't see why you have a leg to stand on on this. You completely failed to respond to my logical tear down of your totally idiotic OP.

41 posts isn't exactly a leg to stand on, your credibility to say anything is certainly zero. As far as your knowledge of the US Constitution, that's lower than zero. Oh wait, you were using your special talent, 'assault logic', which is like an AR-15 of words, right? <What a fucking snowflake>

 

[My I]

Can't see why you have a leg to stand on on this. You completely failed to respond to my logical tear down of your totally idiotic OP.

Oh! I see it now. I missed before and I apologize for that. I didn't realize that think the universe centers on you and that is why it is totally fucked up. Now it's clearer to me.

None of those were designed solely to kill a maximum number of people in a minimum amount time. Was this a trick question or are you really that stupid? (Don't bother to answer. I know which one it is).

they weren't designed to and yet cars kill more people every single day than guns do. Cell phones weren't designed to kill but they kill more people than guns do. Backyard swimming pools weren't designed to kill children but they kill more than guns do.

Logical teardown??? Please. Grow up and get over yourself.

Did that make you feel more important to me?

 

[KeithD]

You losers are a riot. You're as sleazy and idiotic as the conman you worship. It just keeps getting worse for you day by day, doesn't it?

At least Trump's troubles that you try to justify are turning again to the pornographic, which will make it more relevant that you post your tripe to a porn site.

 

[coachdb18]

You losers are a riot. You're as sleazy and idiotic as the conman you worship. It just keeps getting worse for you day by day, doesn't it?

You are aware that there is a minimum age here? What are you, about 7? My advice to other legitimate posters here on Lit is to be very careful what you post, especially pictures, as there are obviously minors that could get you in a legal battle when it comes to 'kiddie porn', and this place is a habitat for it, as this KeithD appears to be. Where are the moderators, and why aren't they worried about their liability here?

 

[My I]

You losers are a riot. You're as sleazy and idiotic as the conman you worship. It just keeps getting worse for you day by day, doesn't it?

And children shouldn't be on adult forums. Go ask mommy for some mac and cheese and more chicky nuggets. And check your supply of Capri Sun.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

I repeat:

Fetus in the womb vs. little kids in classrooms

Only in the fucked up nutbag Christian universe are these the same thing, so speak for yourself

So you only support murder at specific ages... maybe 2 or 3 months before birth, maybe it's also OK again when you turn 24, again at 35.... should be very interesting what goes on in your mind... keeping in mind that Nazi theory devalued certain human beings as less valuable than others, thus their extermination was 'justified'...

 

[EmpressJosephine]

Let me begin by saying I am not a "gun person." A friend took me to a shooting range once and taught me how to fire her pistol. It was interesting, even fun, but not so much that I got myself a gun, or have even gone out of my way to shoot one again. Thus, I have nothing directly at stake in the whole gun debate.

What I do have at stake is the integrity of the Bill of Rights.

The whole notion that you should have to show some sort of "need" to exercise a constitutional right is a dangerous precedent to seek. The "right to bear arms" is in the Second Amendment. The First Amendment includes the right to say and write what you want. I would think at a site like this, no one would want to make such rights conditional on "need."

After all, why does anyone need to write erotica? If we only have the right to do what we need, and not also what we want, then what constitutional protection remains for Literotica?

If you don't like that it is good enough for someone to simply want a gun to have one, then amend the Constitution. For now, please don't try to limit the constitutional rights of others, because that will justify others coming to limit yours and mine!

Very well put Josephine.
Have you noticed that in most cases a well thought out rebuttal to a argument that has been beaten to death around here is usually meet with name calling?

Thank you, contrifan32!

Actually, and this has happened to me elsewhere in these political threads, I have noticed if you write "a well thought out rebuttal" to someone's emotional claim, then, lacking the facts or skills to defend their opinions, those whose position you undercut simply ignore the post.

 

[phrodeau]

You have no idea just how far your credibility dropped, do you?

Oh dear, however can I raise myself in your esteem again?

 

[My I]

Oh dear, however can I raise myself in your esteem again?

You can't.

 

[WandaGrabowski]

Paranoia seems to be the common characteristic of the right wing posters in this thread.

Too many action movies and video games have distorted reality.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Because semi-automatic weapons are the standard in personal armament.

Why do so many seem to think semi-automatic rifles are so much more dangerous than hand guns which account for roughly 90% of gun crimes in the US on any given year or the legal full auto ACTUAL military hardware??

Do you really think one semi-automatic rifle is more dangerous than any other?

 

[phrodeau]

Because semi-automatic weapons are the standard in personal armament.

Why do so many seem to think semi-automatic rifles are so much more dangerous than hand guns which account for roughly 90% of gun crimes in the US on any given year or the legal full auto ACTUAL military hardware??

Do you really think one semi-automatic rifle is more dangerous than any other?

You really need to learn something about guns.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/553937/

 

[Carnal_Flower]

That's why people say assault rifle STYLE, OTHER GUNS LIKE IT, MILITARY GRADE, ETC.

Because when was the last mass shooting with a hand gun?

Because semi-automatic weapons are the standard in personal armament.

Why do so many seem to think semi-automatic rifles are so much more dangerous than hand guns which account for roughly 90% of gun crimes in the US on any given year or the legal full auto ACTUAL military hardware??

Do you really think one semi-automatic rifle is more dangerous than any other?

 

[coachdb18]

Because semi-automatic weapons are the standard in personal armament.

Why do so many seem to think semi-automatic rifles are so much more dangerous than hand guns which account for roughly 90% of gun crimes in the US on any given year or the legal full auto ACTUAL military hardware??

Do you really think one semi-automatic rifle is more dangerous than any other?

When I hear 'assault rifle', I automatically tune out the individual or 'news agency' ie CNN because they obviously have no knowledge of guns, and nothing to offer the conversation

https://i.imgur.com/Q0rNadc.jpg

 

[Veroe]

I support the second amendment and anyone wishing to express their right to own a firearm whether for self-defense or hunting, but the problem I have with this is a matter of responsibility. The situation as it is now, is completely irresponsible.

If you want to buy something serious like an assault rifle I am all for that if you want to do so responsibly. I want it to be kinda difficult. Something like an AR-15 was designed to kill quickly and efficiently. It's a weapon not for self-defense or hunting. That's a weapon of war. It's seriously dangerous in the wrong hands. So I want background checks for that. I want waiting periods. I want some thorough regulations on anyone getting their hands on them.

It's a matter of being responsible about gun ownership which I don't think NRA promotes at all.